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Author Topic: 172 BOOKS, from Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, Maxwell etc. Some rare  (Read 5685 times)

ramset

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TinselKoala

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Re: 172 BOOKS, from Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, Maxwell etc. Some rare
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2014, 03:44:15 AM »
What's this about then? Are you trying to stir up trouble by misrepresenting my work?

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 I did let others know about your efforts and offerings here.
 
 172 BOOKS, from Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, Maxwell etc. Some rare
 
 and On another topic I found an air core Vortex motor prototype under investigation here
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHLbQ6zw92w
 
 thx
 Chet

Don't you know what is happening in that video? Do I really need to explain it to you? Do you not notice that the "Vortex" spins in EITHER DIRECTION? That's quite a trick for a vortex, isn't it?

Here is what is actually happening. The sphere magnet is made to spin by the feedback loop composed of the lower coil, the Hall sensor, and the sphere magnet itself. The upper coil actually has almost no effect in the video as shown, which can easily be demonstrated simply by disconnecting its mosfet completely.
The lower coil is being turned off and on rapidly, it is _not_ changing polarity, it is simply being switched on and off. Since the feedback loop is _negative_ this means that the sphere magnet is being flipped over and over. Its polarity is N up, the coil turns on and flips the sphere so that it is S up, then the coil turns off and the sphere coasts until N is up again, lather rinse repeat. This happens faster and faster until the sphere "grabs" the surface it is in contact with and starts rattling around inside the transparent chamber, and tries to throw itself out of the field. But it can't. The "vortex" rotation is the spinning sphere now changing its orientation and propelling itself around and around, by friction against the chamber walls. This subtracts energy from the spin and the sphere slows down, until it can fall to the bottom of the chamber where it is once again spun up around a _horizontal_ axis, that is, flipping over from N up to S up, speeding up again until it grabs by friction. It is spinning so fast that it melts the tiny point of contact with the laminated circuitboard material that forms the bottom of the chamber (and the side of the lower coil's bobbin) and this allows it to "grab" and throw itself against the side of the chamber to run around and around on the stored energy of spin.

I'll thank you not to misrepresent my work or cross-post it to the EF site, where the moderators continue to lie about me and where the plagiarist blowhard Kenny Wheeler, especially, holds court.

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Re: 172 BOOKS, from Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, Maxwell etc. Some rare
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2014, 02:52:09 PM »
TK
Actually not my intention at all,I have never felt that any "moderator" had exclusive rights to the minds of his "customers" .
and always felt that readers often make up their own minds regardless of what the "owners"think or say .
I think people have a right to both sides .
But I also feel that there is much too much venom flying around these forums ..
It gets in the way of much progress and stifles many opportunities..


I apologize for posting that without your consent,I perceived it as an opportunity to teach
and share something unusual that perhaps needed more eyes.
and the link has been removed .


I specifically tried not to mention "magnetic" in the invite to view.[below]
but I did use the "v" word....




Chet
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 ""and On another topic I found an air core Vortex motor prototype under investigation here""
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I like it and wish there was more discussion around your air core "spinny thingy"..
respectfully
Chet




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Re: 172 BOOKS, from Faraday, Steinmetz, Tesla, Maxwell etc. Some rare
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2014, 08:17:01 PM »
You didn't use the word "magnetic"... however I think it is strongly implied, since the device is certainly electro- and mechanically magnetic, works by the application of changing applied electromagnetic fields onto a spherical magnet and is specifically designed to affect the position of the sphere by the application of those changing magnetic fields, and the link was posted in a directly addressed post to a person who promulgates a "theory" that depends on the (unproven, disproven) existence of _magnetic_ vortex.

In addition, the device is not a "motor prototype under investigation" at all. If anything, it is a step in the reverse engineering of a magnetic levitation system, and a demonstrator of how one may use ratiometric Hall sensors in combination with operational amplifiers to achieve much more flexibility than you can get from simple Hall switches. The spinning around is just an interesting side phenomenon, a step along a path to a hopefully _stable, non-spinning_ levitation system, pretty much the exact opposite of a motor, although it does involve rapid pulses.

Anyone is free to discuss my videos on the YouTube pages where they appear. Or in forums like this one. I have no respect for EF, however, and what I get from there is trolling and drive-by cowardly yellowbellied "thumbs down" votes from people who don't even have the guts, or common decency, to make a post explaining what it is they don't like, or have problems with, in the video.

But whatever, dude.