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Title: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: d3x0r on December 15, 2014, 10:34:16 AM



Videos https://www.youtube.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg&list=UUsiwv99k0t62ARYwDuytnjA)


and someone did a replication?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEcGTU9Nyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEcGTU9Nyc) 

Watched a few more videos; apparently it's a water pump for a front loader washing machine?  Just run backwards as a generator?  No modifications?
http://youtu.be/dEaSvtjoAMk?t=11m


Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: ramset on December 15, 2014, 07:52:38 PM
d3xOr
I see this attempted replication has issues ,do you feel Mr.Morin would help with a true replication ?
 

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thx
Chet
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on December 15, 2014, 11:47:50 PM
What's to replicate?

Morin is simply using some batteries to drive an ordinary DC motor, which is driving another ordinary motor, which produces commutator noise and an AC output of sorts. Then he's feeding this noisy AC output into a couple of transformers, and is amazed by the usual "cold electricity", that is spiky HV RF, that lights up his lamps and makes his meters go crazy in the ways that we (some of us anyway) have already experienced many times. He makes the usual false and unsupported claims from his observations which are stuffed into his "theory", and he attacks the people who use solid knowledge, facts and experience to criticise him, with the usual string of insults.  For example, he claims to have 400 kV happening in his apparatus, when the wiring insulation can't stand off more than 1 kV. He claims that his meters aren't affected by EMI, when they are beeping at him and producing wildly unstable readings, and his IR thermometer is reporting temperatures _below zero_ when pointed at devices that are clearly not below room temperature.

He makes many false claims and incorrect statements that betray his utter lack of measurement expertise and his totally theory-driven stance. Do you see any oscilloscope measurements in Morin's setup, or just the use of handheld DMMs and thermometers? No matter what his instruments and demonstrations might actually show, he will always interpret them in the light of his dearly held "theory" rather than allowing the observations to determine the actual truth. He issues fake "challenges" to experimenters, and when he is shown what 400kV actually looks like, or other demonstrations that explain what is happening in his apparatus, he just ignores it.

Have fun with your "replication", it is easy to do and you will discover just what he has discovered but won't admit: there is nothing of value in what he is doing.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: d3x0r on December 16, 2014, 01:17:32 AM
What's to replicate?

Morin is simply using some batteries to drive an ordinary DC motor, which is driving another ordinary motor, which produces commutator noise and an AC output of sorts. Then he's feeding this noisy AC output into a couple of transformers, and is amazed by the usual "cold electricity", that is spiky HV RF, that lights up his lamps and makes his meters go crazy in the ways that we (some of us anyway) have already experienced many times. He makes the usual false and unsupported claims from his observations which are stuffed into his "theory", and he attacks the people who use solid knowledge, facts and experience to criticise him, with the usual string of insults.  For example, he claims to have 400 kV happening in his apparatus, when the wiring insulation can't stand off more than 1 kV. He claims that his meters aren't affected by EMI, when they are beeping at him and producing wildly unstable readings, and his IR thermometer is reporting temperatures _below zero_ when pointed at devices that are clearly not below room temperature.

He makes many false claims and incorrect statements that betray his utter lack of measurement expertise and his totally theory-driven stance. Do you see any oscilloscope measurements in Morin's setup, or just the use of handheld DMMs and thermometers? No matter what his instruments and demonstrations might actually show, he will always interpret them in the light of his dearly held "theory" rather than allowing the observations to determine the actual truth. He issues fake "challenges" to experimenters, and when he is shown what 400kV actually looks like, or other demonstrations that explain what is happening in his apparatus, he just ignores it.

Have fun with your "replication", it is easy to do and you will discover just what he has discovered but won't admit: there is nothing of value in what he is doing.
Ya; Liked the defense mechanism when explained about the meter's false reaction to HF voltage... he called YOU Kid  *LOL* :)  and don't you know you shouldn't shop at he dollar store for your meters?   

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Dave45 on December 16, 2014, 02:01:56 AM
He just needs to loop it, if he can.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on December 17, 2014, 03:37:22 AM
He just needs to loop it, if he can.
Don't you think he would have, if he could? Of course he cannot, and the energy efficiency, from input from the batteries to output at the lights and other loads, is actually quite low. Peak power is not energy, pulsed voltage is not energy, and one simply cannot measure this kind of circuit properly with DMMs, without heavy filtering! Especially when they are beeping at you, complaining about all the EMI!

The same phenomenon has fooled many people with many different devices and circuits. Peak power is not energy, voltage multiplication is not energy multiplication. One needs something a bit more sophisticated than a kill-a-watt meter and a clampon DMM to measure, accurately, peak and average output power levels in a system with lots of "hash" (RF noise, high frequency/high voltage, "cold" or "radiant" electricity). The reason you don't see claimants using these proper methods and instruments is obvious to me: it's because proper measurements don't support the claims of overunity, free energy or enhanced efficiency. So they "must be wrong" and the claimant will fall back to the kill-a-watt meters and DMMs in attempts to support his claims. Sterling surely knows better, by now, but he seems to enjoy the controversy and the traffic that false claimants bring to his site.



Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Dave45 on December 18, 2014, 01:16:10 AM
I found one of the washer pumps its really cool the water runs around the magnet.
The spinning magnet actually pumps the water.
This is the setup, at least in the one I found.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: NTesla on April 07, 2015, 12:53:39 AM
I found one of the washer pumps its really cool the water runs around the magnet.
The spinning magnet actually pumps the water.
This is the setup, at least in the one I found.

I don't think so - the pic you show is the basics of a Synchronous motor (see: http://www.johnsonelectric.com/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation (http://www.johnsonelectric.com/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation)). Most of the drain pump motors I have seen appear to be Synchronous motors (as opposed to Universal or Shaded pole). The shaft end has a plastic paddle on it that moves the water.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Brian516 on April 07, 2015, 04:32:05 AM
I guess there are still plenty of people out there willing to throw time, money, and effort into the fire. If all one is going to do is replicate garbage chasing dreams of overunity, one will surely fail at every attempt.  If you really want to get anywhere at all, you need to stop chasing the rat in circles and start experimenting specifically for the knowledge.  Without knowledge and experience, you're never going to achieve anything.  I figured out very quickly that if I don't understand how something works in it's entirety, I'll have absolutely no hope of making any sort of progress in any direction.
From what I gather about this Morin fella... he's headed nowhere fast, with his "invention" or "discovery" or whatever one wants to call it.  If you'd like to follow him, there's no one that's going to stop you, but I would actually listen to TK and find something else to do, something you might actually learn something from that isn't a complete waste of effort and money. 

Remember that one guy who thought he had something a while ago...something with a BATTERY and a MOTOR and a couple LIGHT BULBS..?? 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on April 07, 2015, 12:20:50 PM
I guess there are still plenty of people out there willing to throw time, money, and effort into the fire. If all one is going to do is replicate garbage chasing dreams of overunity, one will surely fail at every attempt.  If you really want to get anywhere at all, you need to stop chasing the rat in circles and start experimenting specifically for the knowledge.  Without knowledge and experience, you're never going to achieve anything.  I figured out very quickly that if I don't understand how something works in it's entirety, I'll have absolutely no hope of making any sort of progress in any direction.
From what I gather about this Morin fella... he's headed nowhere fast, with his "invention" or "discovery" or whatever one wants to call it.  If you'd like to follow him, there's no one that's going to stop you, but I would actually listen to TK and find something else to do, something you might actually learn something from that isn't a complete waste of effort and money. 

Remember that one guy who thought he had something a while ago...something with a BATTERY and a MOTOR and a couple LIGHT BULBS..??

The difference between Gerald Morin and many other experimenters is that he has had a Eureka moment in public, whereas most of us who have experimented for years, kept ours private. Its not nice to be told we have got it wrong and eventually realise our error, especially when told in the public domain. Having said this, I rather admire Gerald for his enthusiasm and willingness to share his learning experience on the fora. What I do object to is the rudeness that often accompanies those 'you've got it wrong' type posts, often from more experienced experimenters.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on April 07, 2015, 02:36:20 PM
Morin is not learning from his experiences, though. He is convinced he is right from the beginning and there is nothing that will shake that conviction. And as far as being insulting goes... he is full of disrespect and insults for his critics who try to inform him of his errors and safety issues. In fact it's a real miracle that he hasn't electrocuted himself already. Take a look at that one video where he's poking his fingers around inside his home's distribution panel-- live-- without even looking at what he's doing. He's just a centimeter away from killing himself, live on camera.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on April 07, 2015, 03:16:46 PM
Morin is not learning from his experiences, though. He is convinced he is right from the beginning and there is nothing that will shake that conviction. And as far as being insulting goes... he is full of disrespect and insults for his critics who try to inform him of his errors and safety issues. In fact it's a real miracle that he hasn't electrocuted himself already. Take a look at that one video where he's poking his fingers around inside his home's distribution panel-- live-- without even looking at what he's doing. He's just a centimeter away from killing himself, live on camera.

Yes, he has much to learn in the field of electrics / electronics.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Brian516 on April 07, 2015, 05:53:10 PM
A true experimenter should be open to all criticism.  After all, part of the process of proving a theory is correct is attempting to disprove it.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on September 12, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
Yes, he has much to learn in the field of electrics / electronics.
LOL Sorry but I think it is the other way around !?  ;D We have to learn as this has nothing to do with electronics or conventional electrics as we know it !? It is RADIANT or whatever you wanna call it !
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on September 13, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
Gerard knows nothing worthwhile about 'radiant energy' either. He confuses many basic definitions.
As someone who has >50 of hands-on experience with electricity, electronics and other disciplines, I still am astounded how much others, such as TK and the late (and highly respected) Mark E. have to teach me.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on September 14, 2015, 10:13:41 AM
Gerard knows nothing worthwhile about 'radiant energy' either. He confuses many basic definitions.
As someone who has >50 of hands-on experience with electricity, electronics and other disciplines, I still am astounded how much others, such as TK and the late (and highly respected) Mark E. have to teach me.
Well wrong or right he still is not like many others before trying to sell something or getting money out of it !? You got to give him credit in the things he ''believes'' in because that's really what it boils down to ! Do not forget that TESLA also ''believed'' in ''IT'' !? LOL

PS. below a text I wrote to a friend as this might spark some ideas on this forum !?

I think it's always good to get some ideas however crazy they may seem (mine) LOL but it can  spark an idea that might work!? I will try to explain it as simple as possible ! First of all you must already start with radiant, cold, zero point or whatever we like to call it ! Meaning the high voltage is like you see in Brent's video already cold ! ( 15.50 https://youtu.be/HHWFRI6uDtA ) Well this frequency (adaptable with the motor your driving it with) should be used to drive any motor coils with let's say a spark around a 1000V or more ! Once you got a motor running on it it can provide more then enough torque to drive the little pump motor and and a lot of power (TORQUE) left over to drive anything !? Ones they are tuned in sync there is no need anymore for the drive motor and batteries are no longer needed !?
Sorry for the simplistic drawing but it's just that you get the idea ! All mechanically connected just for a tryout !?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on September 14, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
I have searched and opened some different pumps to see what is inside. The ones that use magnet for rotor instead of aluminum strips, do have something different compare to other magnet motors. This difference is that the magnet inside is all the way around of one pole. There is just a thin portion across the magnet (in parallel with axis) thick as a pencil line where the other pole appears. So 98% north or south and 2% the other pole around. I think mr Morin builds his own rotors though.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on September 14, 2015, 12:04:42 PM
Well wrong or right he still is not like many others before trying to sell something or getting money out of it !? You got to give him credit in the things he ''believes'' in because that's really what it boils down to ! Do not forget that TESLA also ''believed'' in ''IT'' !? LOL

 

Here we go again.
Morin's blunders have !!NOTHING!! to do with Tesla's work-period.
And people that put Tesla's name to this sort of rubbish need nothing short of a good slap in the chop's. At least when i associate Tesla's name with my work,it is based around some of his early motor/generator designs.

Morin has no idea at all what he is doing,or what he is seeing with his waste water pump setup-or any other setup he has. He is clueless -full stop. There is no zero point energy in anything he dose,and the only radiant energy he has is the electromagnetic field lighting up some fluro light's-->which according to Morin,have no gas in them lol.

The radiant energy Tesla spoke of,is the radiated electric and magnetic field emitted from devices like his Tesla coil.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on September 14, 2015, 01:05:53 PM
tesletec:
Quote
Meaning the high voltage is like you see in Brent's video already cold ! ( 15.50 https://youtu.be/HHWFRI6uDtA (https://youtu.be/HHWFRI6uDtA) )

Hah! You think that's "cold"? Then stick your finger in there and see what happens. I will say this about that demonstration: It's pretty _feeble_.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDh8sTc8Kw


Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: SoManyWires on September 15, 2015, 07:21:23 AM
tesletec:
Hah! You think that's "cold"? Then stick your finger in there and see what happens. I will say this about that demonstration: It's pretty _feeble_.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XRwlNCF1PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDh8sTc8Kw

that was a impressive demonstration!
and also because it showed the simple yet effective wooden and copper capacitor unused stored energy discharger you thoughtfully created, and safely showing how use it to keep each and every single one of the prized digits to remain on ones hand should anyone also prefer the same less dangerous results.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on September 16, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
that was a impressive demonstration!
and also because it showed the simple yet effective wooden and copper capacitor unused stored energy discharger you thoughtfully created, and safely showing how use it to keep each and every single one of the prized digits to remain on ones hand should anyone also prefer the same less dangerous results.
Yes but you still do not get it ! This is produced by a normal transformer from the GRID !? Matrix ''FREE YOUR MIND''   ::)  Anyway thanks for the reply
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on September 16, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Morin idiot.
I'm sorry, that's it.
 ;)
Yep, that's what they said about Tesla to LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on September 16, 2015, 08:56:36 PM
"Yep, that's what they said about Tesla to LOL " but Tesla actually produced evidence and products.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on September 16, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Yes but you still do not get it ! This is produced by a normal transformer from the GRID !? Matrix ''FREE YOUR MIND''   ::)  Anyway thanks for the reply
If you are referring to my video demonstrations, you are wrong. They are not "produced by a normal transformer from the GRID". In both cases they are high-frequency, high voltage devices, and as anyone can see from the second video, ample "cold electricity" is made which can light up a filament bulb with ease, without shocking or burning my fingers at all.

And if you are talking about Morin's demonstrations... you will find that Morin's home IS still powered by his local GRID, not by his "overunity" transformers or motor-generator kludges.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on September 17, 2015, 06:19:42 PM
Yep, that's what they said about Tesla to LOL  ;D

Who said that about Tesla?  Show me any evidence at all that anyone said that about Tesla.  Tesla was clearly a genius who spent many years studying and working to be able to give us the power systems we use today.  He was not some babbling idiot that didn't know one electrical term from another.  Morin is only fooling the people that are too lazy to try and learn anything.

If you told your car mechanic you could make your engine run better by changing the air in your tires he would immediately know you were an idiot.  The foolish babbling by Gerard sounds just as foolish to those of us that have actually worked in electronics.  You can believe all you want but at the end of the day you will still have nothing.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on September 23, 2015, 06:01:28 PM
Hi all,
I am always trying to think that the glass is half full ! Also in this case I believe in Morin ! Well yes you can say it's the same as believing in the story of Jesus or not and that does not proof anything but like the Jezus story I will give him the benefit of the doubt because it's a good story but then again a story perhaps to good to be true ! Anyway we'll know soon as here's his last message ! take care you all... ;)

Update : Sorry for no video updates lately guys I have been building a lab in Australia as well. I have been
working 7 days a week.. We will have a video coming soon. We have completed the self loop. We are now moving to solve the issue with
the controller.

It should be Minimum 10-15Kv, which will be a self looping system. Roughly will run 500-700 watt intake, 10-15Kv output.
Anaheim Automation has not given us any support whatsoever, they seem to be refusing to assist.

There will be a video in the coming future, we want to finish the testing, we have had some issues with the
controller for getting the proper speed, but the self loop is done now.. once we finish it at the proper speed, we will put the video out. It's all about leverage and ratio, and frequency.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on September 23, 2015, 06:20:40 PM
He clearly is mixing up the units: "500-700 watt intake, 10-15Kv output."
Seeing the glass as 'half full' is giving credence to garbage.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on September 23, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
Quote
Update : Sorry for no video updates lately guys I have been building a lab in Australia as well. I have been
working 7 days a week.. We will have a video coming soon. We have completed the self loop. We are now moving to solve the issue with
the controller.

It should be Minimum 10-15Kv, which will be a self looping system. Roughly will run 500-700 watt intake, 10-15Kv output.
Anaheim Automation has not given us any support whatsoever, they seem to be refusing to assist.

Completed the self-loop? That's a baldfaced lie. They cannot "self loop" without outside power, as the rest of the "update" makes perfectly clear.

The second video I posted above show less than 60 Watts "intake" and over 30 kV output. So where's my damn cheezburger?

Go ahead, "tesletec", ask Morin and his cronies what they are using to run their homes. Where do they get their electricity? Post an image of their last two months electric bills. Of course you won't do this little thing, because even YOU know it will prove that Morin and all his believers are just ignorant dupes.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 01, 2015, 09:45:18 AM
Go ahead, "tesletec", ask Morin and his cronies what they are using to run their homes. Where do they get their electricity? Post an image of their last two months electric bills. Of course you won't do this little thing, because even YOU know it will prove that Morin and all his believers are just ignorant dupes.
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At least he did what he promised  !? 8)
https://youtu.be/aOLnf_gP7K8
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: nelsonrochaa on October 01, 2015, 11:03:24 AM
Working Tesla invention there is
Morin did nothing.
Juggle.
Tesla free energy device  no.

Tinselkoala knows more than Tesla.
It develops the world.
Ask him
There is free energy?
There OU?
Hmm? ;)

Wanted to be funny, or speak up with conviction? 
You can only be kidding ...  I appreciate the fact that thou hast provided me my moment of laughter day just after wake up .
Thanks
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 01, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
Go ahead, "tesletec", ask Morin and his cronies what they are using to run their homes. Where do they get their electricity? Post an image of their last two months electric bills. Of course you won't do this little thing, because even YOU know it will prove that Morin and all his believers are just ignorant dupes.


 
At least he did what he promised  !? 8)
https://youtu.be/aOLnf_gP7K8 (https://youtu.be/aOLnf_gP7K8)

Oh, please. There is no overunity, no self-looping shown in that video, just more nonsense and bad measurements from Morin.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 01, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
Morin has his DMM set to A.C. when he makes this D.C. battery measurement in the video.

 "I was using 1 Amp from the battery"
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 01, 2015, 12:26:43 PM

 
At least he did what he promised  !? 8)
https://youtu.be/aOLnf_gP7K8

He has done nothing but show he has no idea as to how to measure power.
This guy !has! to be UFOpolotics brother.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 01, 2015, 01:02:16 PM
Gee Tinman, are you saying you don't believe all Dufo's silly talk about witches and forced BEMF?  At least Dufo can talk intelligently even if his ideas are based on fantasy instead of reality.  I have not been able to make any sense at all from what Gerard says.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 01, 2015, 01:57:51 PM
Gee Tinman, are you saying you don't believe all Dufo's silly talk about witches and forced BEMF?  At least Dufo can talk intelligently even if his ideas are based on fantasy instead of reality.  I have not been able to make any sense at all from what Gerard says.

Oh me and Dufo (as you call him) go waaaaaaay back lol.
I was heart broken when he kicked me off his thread ::)
Then i told Arron the rookie he was full of sh-t,and he kicked me out of the forum  :o lol.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 01, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
Oh, please. There is no overunity, no self-looping shown in that video, just more nonsense and bad measurements from Morin.
That's not the point I am saying that he did what he promised to do ! Over-unity or not he is there doing what he said he would do ! Remember he doesn't want anything in return ! I am sure everybody here is capable of making their own conclusions and that's it ! What I am trying to say is...
“ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ”

PS.Yep again another good example that OU does NOT exist !? LOL ;D
https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 02, 2015, 03:44:42 AM
That's not the point I am saying that he did what he promised to do ! Over-unity or not he is there doing what he said he would do ! Remember he doesn't want anything in return ! I am sure everybody here is capable of making their own conclusions and that's it ! What I am trying to say is...
“ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ”

PS.Yep again another good example that OU does NOT exist !? LOL ;D
https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8 (https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8)

You seem to be unaware of the facts. Morin and his cronies have in fact taken money for what they are doing, and he is basking in the glory of being an internet personality. He is definitely getting rewards for what he is doing, both financial and egotistical.
You think he's done what he said he would do? Sure, he said he'd post a video, and he did. However he did NOT produce a self looping system, he has NEVER made a single extra Joule of energy above what he puts into his kludges from the Canadian power grid, he is still running his own home with electricity he buys from the grid, and his "measurements" are so bad as to be laughable. He still doesn't even know how to use his own equipment !! Show him a proper integrating wideband power meter, or even an oscilloscope, and watch him run away !!

Not only that, but there seems to be something wrong with your link.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 02, 2015, 09:11:18 AM
@TinselKoala
Well thanks for pointing that out, did not know, we'll see what happens ! So are you saying apart from Gerard that there is no device on this planet that works with OU !?

PS. about the link when I click on it in this forum it works !?
https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8
 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jimboot on October 02, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
@TinselKoala
Well thanks for pointing that out, did not know, we'll see what happens ! So are you saying apart from Gerard that there is no device on this planet that works with OU !?

PS. about the link when I click on it in this forum it works !?
https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8 (https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8)
I admire Gerard for putting himself out there but even a novice like me knows that the measurements he took were, to be generous, ill informed. It felt like he was waiting for Thane Heins to ride in with a magic controller that would fix everything. Looped with the mains plugged in? I don't think so. I know he has asked for money, no idea if he has received any
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 02, 2015, 12:04:42 PM
That's not the point I am saying that he did what he promised to do ! Over-unity or not he is there doing what he said he would do ! Remember he doesn't want anything in return ! I am sure everybody here is capable of making their own conclusions and that's it ! What I am trying to say is...
“ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ”

PS.Yep again another good example that OU does NOT exist !? LOL ;D
https://youtu.be/Z_GUem5ADQs?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8
gerard said the next video would be of a looped system,so where is the looped system?.

Also,the video link you posted is not of an OU device either. The title says it all-->chemical reaction.
Another great example of idiotic measurements. Jerard uses only current to show an apparent OU device,while PMMG4HYBRID uses voltage only to show an apparent OU device<--although he is very careful not to say OU. He thinks that the battery voltage going up means extra stored energy-but it dosnt mean that at all. There is a difference between surface charge and deep charge in a lead acid battery. Also remember that as the temperature of the chemicals increases in the battery,so will the voltage.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 02, 2015, 12:16:45 PM
According to some posts he has made on the Energetic Forum he now has backers that are financing him to build a lab in Australia.  Turion has asked to be allowed to see the lab as he is going to Australia next week.  Anyone want to bet on that happening?  If he actually has backers, it reminds me of the old proverb that says: A fool and his money are soon parted.  I am talking about the backers of course.

What is so amazing to me it that so many people who admit they really don't have any experience with electricity or electronics insist on believing in this guy.  They do that even though they have been told by many who have actually worked in electronics that Gerard has no idea what he is doing.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on October 02, 2015, 01:14:02 PM
gerard said the next video would be of a looped system,so where is the looped system?.

Also,the video link you posted is not of an OU device either. The title says it all-->chemical reaction.
Another great example of idiotic measurements. Jerard uses only current to show an apparent OU device,while PMMG4HYBRID uses voltage only to show an apparent OU device<--although he is very careful not to say OU. He thinks that the battery voltage going up means extra stored energy-but it dosnt mean that at all. There is a difference between surface charge and deep charge in a lead acid battery. Also remember that as the temperature of the chemicals increases in the battery,so will the voltage.

Even worse, he uses an AC clamp meter to measure the DC current supplying his inverter in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aOLnf_gP7K8) overunity video!  :(
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 02, 2015, 02:08:49 PM
Even worse, he uses an AC clamp meter to measure the DC current supplying his inverter in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aOLnf_gP7K8) overunity video!  :(

yes,i seen that little error lol,and made a comment on his video about it.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on October 02, 2015, 02:14:27 PM
yes,i seen that little error lol,and made a comment on his video about it.

I didn't read the comments but its good you have raised this because this guy needs to be reigned-in!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 02, 2015, 05:10:35 PM
Some meters will read D.C. current on an A.C. setting.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 02, 2015, 05:21:30 PM
setting.
Some meters will read D.C. current on an A.C. setting.

I doubt that Gerard has checked that.
He spouts absolute nonsense about almost anything.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 02, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
setting.
I doubt that Gerard has checked that.
He spouts absolute nonsense about almost anything.



"The Hall effect type (Clamp Meter) is more sensitive and is able to measure both DC and AC current".
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on October 02, 2015, 06:16:30 PM


"The Hall effect type (Clamp Meter) is more sensitive and is able to measure both DC and AC current".

Yes, but his meter is clearly displaying an AC switch setting. My clamp meter measures both AC and DC current but makes it clear which current it is set to.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 02, 2015, 07:35:51 PM
Yes, but his meter is clearly displaying an AC switch setting. My clamp meter measures both AC and DC current but makes it clear which current it is set to.

In general hall elements are used as a sensor to detect DC current because it is not possible to employ an electromagnetic induction method as used for dedicated AC clamp meters. As shown in a figure at below, a hall element is placed across a gap created by cutting off part of the transformer jaws. When there occurs a flow of magnetic flux proportional to both AC and DC primary currents in the transformer jaws this hall element detects the magnetic flux and takes it out as an output voltage.
 Hall element:This is a semiconductor to generate a voltage proportional to the product of bias current and magnetic field on the output terminal when bias current is applied to the input terminal.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 02, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
Nice copy-paste, Synchro. Now let's see a link to a clamp meter that measures a DC current accurately when it is _set to the AC current setting_.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 02, 2015, 09:26:09 PM
Some meters will read D.C. current on an A.C. setting.

Give a link to one, and show that it is accurate.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 02, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Try it and see for us . The archival data says it's possible; If it's not just flipped over to one side, there's a chance it's reading the D.C. current on A.C.. Only the Hall effect sensor will act this way. Some one with a "Hall Effect" clamp meter can get some concrete results fast.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 02, 2015, 11:17:29 PM
Unless someone has the exact same meter Gerard is using we still won't know anything.  One meter may be accurate reading DC when set on AC and another may not.  And even if we find that a meter like his is accurate that still does not address the problem that nothing he says makes any sense to anyone that has actually worked in the field.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 03, 2015, 12:37:12 AM
Unless someone has the exact same meter Gerard is using we still won't know anything.  One meter may be accurate reading DC when set on AC and another may not.  And even if we find that a meter like his is accurate that still does not address the problem that nothing he says makes any sense to anyone that has actually worked in the field.

@citfta,

Nice to see you over here. Most meters would just read zero on the wrong scale. The fact that he's reading something indicates there my be a measurement. He should have placed it on the D.C. scale in the first place.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 03, 2015, 02:11:23 AM
Here is the meter Jerard is using-the modle is quite easy to see when the video is viewed in full screen.
So he is trying to measure a DC current using a meter that reads only AC current ;)

http://www.valuetesters.com/ideal-industries-61-766-clamp-multimeter-ac-true-rms.html
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 03, 2015, 05:07:24 AM
Here is the meter Jerard is using-the modle is quite easy to see when the video is viewed in full screen.
So he is trying to measure a DC current using a meter that reads only AC current ;)

http://www.valuetesters.com/ideal-industries-61-766-clamp-multimeter-ac-true-rms.html (http://www.valuetesters.com/ideal-industries-61-766-clamp-multimeter-ac-true-rms.html)

It would be sad, if it wasn't so damn hilarious. Or maybe the other way around.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 03, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
Thanks for the info about the meter.  That explains the weird readings around the inverter.  If I remember he showed less than an amp going from the battery to the inverter.  But, he showed the inverter putting out over an amp going to the motor drive.  He is using an off the shelf inverter so the current should have been at least 10 times higher coming from the battery as going to the motor drive.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 03, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
Thanks for the info about the meter.  That explains the weird readings around the inverter.  If I remember he showed less than an amp going from the battery to the inverter.  But, he showed the inverter putting out over an amp going to the motor drive.  He is using an off the shelf inverter so the current should have been at least 10 times higher coming from the battery as going to the motor drive.

Those stator motors he is using are/or the same as the fisher and paykel smart drive motors-i have many of them,as can be seen on a few of my youtube video's. I made a pulse motor out of one one day,just to see what would happen. I could run it at 84RPM on a 6 volt battery at around 500mA. Even at that low power,it had a lot of torque. If i use the 80 series version stator,i can light a 480watt LED light bar simply by cranking it by hand,so that little 5-10 watt LED he was driving would be no problem at all. The 80 and 100 series versions of those motors are capable.

Here is a video showing the different series motors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLzHr0Qntgo
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 04, 2015, 01:38:18 AM
Thanks for the info about the meter.  That explains the weird readings around the inverter.  If I remember he showed less than an amp going from the battery to the inverter.  But, he showed the inverter putting out over an amp going to the motor drive.  He is using an off the shelf inverter so the current should have been at least 10 times higher coming from the battery as going to the motor drive.

Ouch! 2 amps in and 10 amps out over 11 hours equals 88 amp hours from a 12 volt deep cell battery. Enough to drain it completely and leave it as dead as a door nail. No measurement offered by Morin on the final battery voltage. A lead acid battery battery can go nearly completely dead and still show a respectable voltage reading on a meter. Ten times the power is easy to misread on a display especially if your meter was manufactured in Never-Never Land like Morin's. 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Hoppy on October 04, 2015, 04:56:55 PM

Ten times the power is easy to misread on a display especially if your meter was manufactured in Never-Never Land like Morin's.

That meter does not measure power directly either.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 07, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT !
Hi my fellow seekers, I am surely not the brightest of the bunch here that's for sure ! LOL but never the less some of you out there might be inspired looking a bit further in to the rabbit hole !?
 
''Our'' GEGENE project is still not solved !? http://tesletic.com/ (http://tesletic.com/)
That's why I am still convinced there must be a way to put this amps to work so we can at lest achieve a self running device ! First example is done by my friend Igor but he still could not try it totally out because lack of a pure sine inverter ! Take a look at the video !? ???
https://youtu.be/IpAuvTBCugs (https://youtu.be/IpAuvTBCugs)

GEGENE OVER-UNITY proof or NOT !?
I would highly appreciate it if any of you can tell me what is wrong with these calculations !
https://youtu.be/abadWctCggE (https://youtu.be/abadWctCggE)
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg (https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg)

What I still do not get is that even the famous Jean Naudin concluded ,''If 1.0 KJ is produced by the grid (measured with the energy-meter on the grid plug), firstly if 2.5 KJ is produced by the generator and secondly if 1.0 KJ is used by the load at the output, there is 2.5 - 1.0 = 1.0 KJ available for re-injection at the input... So, we measure 1.0 KJ on the energy-meter on the grid plug and 2.5 KJ on the energy-meter at the input of the induction cooker after the GTI.'' BUT HE NEVER FINALIZED IT !!!????
http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene13en.htm

Personally I did some tests and I will try instead of using an inverter using some good 220v pure sine generator driven by a DC-motor ! I know this consumes more than an inverter but with batteries you never know what is going with that kind of set up ! It works or it doesn't !
http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm

 Perhaps I am seeing it all but I will try or if anybody here wants to give it a try of course again very highly appreciated !  Best regards
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 07, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
Quote
2.5 - 1.0 = 1.0 KJ

What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 07, 2015, 11:18:54 PM
What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)

If these calculations are right ?  :-\
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 08, 2015, 01:30:16 AM
If these calculations are right ?  :-\
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_m7QGPIn2c
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 08, 2015, 02:45:46 AM
@citfta,

Nice to see you over here. Most meters would just read zero on the wrong scale. The fact that he's reading something indicates there my be a measurement. He should have placed it on the D.C. scale in the first place.

Hi Synchro,

Thanks for the welcome.  I will probably be spending a lot more time here now.  I have banned myself from the idiots on the Erroneous Forum.  I just finally had all I could take from people that insist on believing in fantasy and constantly harass anyone that doesn't agree with them.  I can understand the disagreement part but the constant harassment was making me as bitter as some of them.  It is not worth it.  So I guess I will hang out here for a while.

Placing the meter on the D.C. scale would have been a good idea but as has already been pointed out the meter doesn't even have that function. 

I am amazed at how many people insist they are discovering new territory when they don't even have any idea of what has already been discovered.  That just doesn't make sense to me.

Later,
Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 08, 2015, 03:05:49 AM
What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)
I meant this what JN was saying in his conclusions  '' a closed loop is possible here, the system can be disconnected from the grid (if the GTI is replaced by a pure sinus grid inverter). The system produces MORE than it consumes while it gives power for all the output loads and in addition it is able to charge a batterie.'' ?  :-\
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 08, 2015, 03:15:38 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_m7QGPIn2c

@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 08, 2015, 04:01:08 AM
I meant this what JN was saying in his conclusions  '' a closed loop is possible here, the system can be disconnected from the grid (if the GTI is replaced by a pure sinus grid inverter). The system produces MORE than it consumes while it gives power for all the output loads and in addition it is able to charge a batterie.'' ?  :-\

If you can subtract 1.0 from 2.5 and come up with 1.0 as your answer... then anything is possible. 

Jean-Louis has more "overunity" devices in his laboratory than even Akula or Ruslan have. Everything he investigates produces "overunity" in his laboratory.  Yet he still pays for his electricity, and has never made (or at least never demonstrated) anything that can "self loop" or run itself without outside source of power.

So... "Do the Math" ....
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 08, 2015, 04:04:22 AM
@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

As far as Chaniotakis is concerned... ask him why he cannot run two or three other induction hobs -- or even one --  from the "3.6 times the input" output of the first one. I love to see people's answers to that challenge.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 08, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

YES !  ::)
Although I agree with your skepticism because indeed numbers don't represent nothing but facts do !
But then again! Please tell me and I am asking everybody here  let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 08, 2015, 10:29:27 AM
Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

As far as Chaniotakis is concerned... ask him why he cannot run two or three other induction hobs -- or even one --  from the "3.6 times the input" output of the first one. I love to see people's answers to that challenge.

@Tinsilly,

"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 08, 2015, 10:36:24 AM
"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm
[/quote]

Here you can find some interesting phenomenons that produce these bifilars wish coincidence or not I used in the same way on the GEGENE project !  ;D
https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw (https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw)   
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 08, 2015, 12:13:16 PM
@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 08, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.

@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 08, 2015, 07:58:59 PM
@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.

Take his money, Tinman.

(and if you lower the induction hob's tank capacitor value slightly, to compensate for the increased self-capacitance of the TBC winding.... what do you see then?)

And we are still waiting for some credible reference that supports Synchro's claim about "what Tesla believed".

The problem with JLN's data is almost certainly in his measurement of the input power. You'll never see these people using a proper wideband integrating power meter.... which instruments exist _exactly because_ of the fact that measurement error with cheap consumer grade equipment is so common.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 08, 2015, 09:14:33 PM
Take his money, Tinman.

(and if you lower the induction hob's tank capacitor value slightly, to compensate for the increased self-capacitance of the TBC winding.... what do you see then?)

And we are still waiting for some credible reference that supports Synchro's claim about "what Tesla believed".

The problem with JLN's data is almost certainly in his measurement of the input power. You'll never see these people using a proper wideband integrating power meter.... which instruments exist _exactly because_ of the fact that measurement error with cheap consumer grade equipment is so common.

@Tinzelkooklawalla,

Why don't you offer to put some money up big shot? You never bothered to test and compare the different kinds of coils as I frequently urged you to with A.C. current, all you do is pulse D.C. and act like a know it all. Skycollection's running A.C. magnetic strength tests for the first time on this kind of coil right now.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 08, 2015, 09:33:45 PM
But then again! Please tell me and I am asking everybody here  let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg
[/quote]
Still waiting patiently !? LOL ;D 8)

btw.Great work is being done here by skycollection, perfect vortex strange phenomenons...must be a way to make a phone charger out of it !?  ::) (wonder where this Spanish fellow got the idea from ?  ;D )
https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 08, 2015, 11:10:20 PM
@Tinzelkooklawalla,

Why don't you offer to put some money up big shot? You never bothered to test and compare the different kinds of coils as I frequently urged you to with A.C. current, all you do is pulse D.C. and act like a know it all. Skycollection's running A.C. magnetic strength tests for the first time on this kind of coil right now.

Well, STINKRO, you have misrepresented so many people's work, as well as mine, many times, and in addition you've demonstrated many times that you have no idea what you are talking about. And you follow the "false claimant" script to the letter: You cannot refute me with checkable credible outside references, or demonstrations of your own, so you stoop to childish insults instead.

You still have not provided any references for any of the things you've claimed, like what you claimed Tesla believed about his patented coilwinding, or for the use of the coil in commercial magnet systems like junkyard magnets, or anything else you've claimed. The tests you have asked for have indeed been performed MANY TIMES, with AC and DC. You would never accept anything I did anyway, so that is why I want Tinman to take your money.

I will bet one thing, though: You won't come through with your "any amount of money" bet once Tinman pwns you.

For your information, I have just _repeated_ the test I posted some time ago, testing the inductance of two coils, one ordinary solenoid and one TB wound, with the same amount of wire, using my ProsKit MT5210 inductance meter. This meter uses an AC signal to probe the device under test. The measured inductance of both coils is the same 43-44 microHenry.

Now grow up and learn how to provide references for your claims and to do your own demonstrations.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 12:22:39 AM
Well, STINKRO, you have misrepresented so many people's work, as well as mine, many times, and in addition you've demonstrated many times that you have no idea what you are talking about. And you follow the "false claimant" script to the letter: You cannot refute me with checkable credible outside references, or demonstrations of your own, so you stoop to childish insults instead.

You still have not provided any references for any of the things you've claimed, like what you claimed Tesla believed about his patented coilwinding, or for the use of the coil in commercial magnet systems like junkyard magnets, or anything else you've claimed. The tests you have asked for have indeed been performed MANY TIMES, with AC and DC. You would never accept anything I did anyway, so that is why I want Tinman to take your money.

I will bet one thing, though: You won't come through with your "any amount of money" bet once Tinman pwns you.

For your information, I have just _repeated_ the test I posted some time ago, testing the inductance of two coils, one ordinary solenoid and one TB wound, with the same amount of wire, using my ProsKit MT5210 inductance meter. This meter uses an AC signal to probe the device under test. The measured inductance of both coils is the same 43-44 microHenry.

Now grow up and learn how to provide references for your claims and to do your own demonstrations.

@Kooklaollie,

You constructed two adjacent coils for your bifilar test, one single wrap and the other series connected. You need to run the same amount of A.C. current through both coils and see how many iron filings each attracts then compare their weight.

Inductance is not magnetic field strength! It would take less time for you to run this simple A.C. magnetic field strength test then it did for you to compose your last lugubrious comment. Don't keep trying to pretend you already performed this test, or where is it? You got a hunch huh!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 04:40:06 AM
Electrical impedance
Adapted from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A graphical representation of the complex impedance plane.
Electrical impedance, or simply impedance, describes a measure of opposition to alternating current (AC). Electrical impedance extends the concept of resistance to AC circuits, describing not only the relative amplitudes of the voltage and current, but also the relative phases. When the circuit is driven with direct current (DC) there is no distinction between impedance and resistance; the latter can be thought of as impedance with zero phase angle.
The symbol for impedance is usually and it may be represented by writing its magnitude and phase in the form . However, complex number representation is more powerful for circuit analysis purposes. The term impedance was coined by Oliver Heaviside in July 1886. Arthur Kennelly was the first to represent impedance with complex numbers in 1893.
Impedance is defined as the frequency domain ratio of the voltage to the current. In other words, it is voltage–current ratio for a single complex exponential at a particular frequency ω. In general, impedance will be a complex number, but this complex number has the same units as resistance, for which the SI unit is the ohm. For a sinusoidal current or voltage input, the polar form of the complex impedance relates the amplitude and phase of the voltage and current. In particular,
• The magnitude of the complex impedance is the ratio of the voltage amplitude to the current amplitude.
• The phase of the complex impedance is the phase shift by which the current is ahead of the voltage.
The reciprocal of impedance is admittance (i.e., admittance is the current-to-voltage ratio, and it conventionally carries mho or Siemens units).
Complex
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 05:07:22 AM
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Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 05:08:02 AM
@Tinselkoala,

You determined that both types of coils have very nearly the same Ohmic resistance in the wires.  When the circuit is driven with direct current (DC) there is no distinction between impedance and resistance. A.C. current on the other hand involves Impedance; Impedance is defined as the frequency domain ratio of the voltage to the current. Total A.C. impedance is the sum of the resistance and the ratio of the voltage to current.

The Tesla bifilar series coil has zero A.C. impedance at self resonate frequency. The single wire pancake coil can't play this trick!

The series bifilar coil will generate an A.C. magnetic field at self resonant frequency, right? What chance does the single wire coil have to compete with the series bifilar when it's stuck with it's original resistance plus the entire burden of the additional A.C. impedance? That's the sum of the Ohmic resistance plus the ratio of the A.C. voltage to current. The A.C. series bifilar electro magnet can produce a magnetic field in self resonance that is entirely free of the single wire's opposition force!   

The series bifilar needs to be wrapped so that it self resonates at 60 hertz to run off wall current and beat the single wire with a magnetic field that is more efficient then the single wire coil with it's burden of A.C. impedance.

Any size Tesla bifilar coil will generate a magnetic field more efficiently then a single wire coil if you have a signal generator that can match the A.C. current frequency to the self resonating frequency of the bifilar coil.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 06:03:25 AM
Look at this A.C. attraction motor design:

A stack of bifilar power coils will ring with A.C. input tailored to match the self resonating frequency of the coils. The magnetic field of the resonating bifilar power coil will be completely free of A.C. impedance. The zero impedance A.C. bifilar power coil is pulsed by the A.C. "Reed Switch" triggered by a small magnet on the ferrite rotor. Anyone should be able to understand how this type of bifilar resonating attraction motor would run more efficiently then a single wire power coil on A.C. current.

This attraction motor pulses A.C. power at the bifilar power coil's self resonating frequency. No power can flow when the circuit's broken. This is a very feeble sketch, but the theory's fully explained now. This is a "Lenz Free" motor design. The air core bifilar power coil would have zero Micro Henries in resonance, and the ferrite rotor would have zero drag with the "Reed Switch" set at TDC. This is not an extremely versatile motor, but the COP should be very close to 1 in resonance. Harvesting the BEMF may push the motor overunity!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 09, 2015, 01:23:55 PM
Stacked bifilar pancakes in series like Skycollection's won't ring. The bifilar pancake coils would need to be connected in parallel to resonate and act in unison as an A.C. electro magnet. Stacking these bifilars back to back, wired in parallel would behave the same way, pound for pound of copper, as just wrapping one bifilar pancake from thicker gauge wire. A solenoid air core bifilar of many windings would work even better.

Multiple coils connected in series resonance have infinite resistance while coils resonating in parallel have zero. Ampere's law determines the magnetic attraction force of the bifilar.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 10, 2015, 05:36:21 PM
Marc Belanger demonstrates a looped Morin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1Wtve7aug
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 10, 2015, 07:11:29 PM
If you consider that video proof of anything (except as an example of how NOT to measure..), then you must be enthralled with the numerous youtube videos that show 'proof' of OU.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 11, 2015, 12:23:39 AM
If you consider that video proof of anything (except as an example of how NOT to measure..), then you must be enthralled with the numerous youtube videos that show 'proof' of OU.

@memoryman,

Everyone who offers proof of Overunity gets screened, scrutinized and treated to a scalding acid bath on this web site, Desinestien's no exception. We all welcome your critical insights, thank you!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: MagnaProp on October 11, 2015, 12:40:45 AM
Marc Belanger demonstrates a looped Morin:...
Nice! He makes it pretty clear he has no intention of releasing it to us and is only interested in giving it to an oil company so they can shelve it. Can't say I'm a fan of that idea but good job none the less.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 11, 2015, 12:57:49 AM
synchro1, everyone who makes a CLAIM gets challenged and scrutinised. I don't know your level of expertise in electricity; if it is high then I would expect you to recognise what Morin and Belanger are spouting as gibberish.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: skycollection on October 11, 2015, 01:00:48 AM
Synchro1, many times i did experiments with DC CURRENT passing from my multifilar pancake coil and i have zero inductance of one coil to another coil, i think if you connect in "PARALLEL" the pancake coils is the same result, my "multifilar pancake coils" only works with AC CURRENT....! there is no doubt...!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 11, 2015, 01:48:01 AM
Synchro1, many times i did experiments with DC CURRENT passing from my multifilar pancake coil and i have zero inductance of one coil to another coil, i think if you connect in "PARALLEL" the pancake coils is the same result, my "multifilar pancake coils" only works with AC CURRENT....! there is no doubt...!

@Skycollection,

Creo que es sobre unidad!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Dman0042 on October 11, 2015, 06:05:05 AM

Why does this TK guy show up on every energy forum on the internet? And all he does is put down all inventors. He always says he knows better and others are stupid.

Now what makes me so curious about his knowledge is the fact he has almost 12,500 post on this forum alone! That is not including the other sites. The stats also show he has spent 112 days of his life on this forum alone! This is not a compliment. My point is how does he know anything if he has spent so much time on the internet arguing with people? How does a guy argue on this website and other energy websites all day everyday and have the time for new experiments?

Every single post of his is nothing but arguing and talking crap about other people. All day every day.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 12, 2015, 09:13:49 AM
Why does this TK guy show up on every energy forum on the internet? And all he does is put down all inventors. He always says he knows better and others are stupid.

Now what makes me so curious about his knowledge is the fact he has almost 12,500 post on this forum alone! That is not including the other sites. The stats also show he has spent 112 days of his life on this forum alone! This is not a compliment. My point is how does he know anything if he has spent so much time on the internet arguing with people? How does a guy argue on this website and other energy websites all day everyday and have the time for new experiments?

Every single post of his is nothing but arguing and talking crap about other people. All day every day.

Now you are really showing your ignorance, newbie. Not only are you utterly wrong in your contentions, it's clear that you cannot refute me, so you resort to insulting me. You are following the False Claimant script to the letter.

Yes, I have a lot of posts on this forum. A great many of those posts are contained within one argument: that of refuting the False Claimant Rosemary Ainslie with a long series of replications and experiments of my own. I have a lot of other posts here helping people to understand how to use and interpret their own test equipment, how to get their devices to work and how to think clearly and scientifically about what they are doing. I've also refuted several other False Claimants, like Mylow for example. And you didn't mention my over 750 YouTube videos covering various topics and showing my demonstrations. Why don't you list "every energy forum" where I post? I'll do it for you: here, sometimes on Revolution-Green, and sometimes on OUR. Did I miss any? Years ago I also posted on Energetic Forum, until Err-on banned me for being 100 percent RIGHT about Rosemary Ainslie and her 555 timer circuit. Are you counting that in your "every energy forum" claim?
 
You, on the other hand, just joined this forum and have no history at all. And it shows in your claims. I've been a member of this forum for at least six years, and I often log in and do other things while logged in, so my time builds up even though I may not be actually reading or posting during that time. If you knew anything about what you are talking about, you'd know that much. I've highlighted the outrageous lies you have posted about me up above.

Go ahead, in your trolling, and gather up and list all the times I've been WRONG. Go ahead, and REFUTE ME with checkable and credible outside references, or experiments and demonstrations of your own. You cannot! Go ahead and give your money to the FTW QEG people, to Gerard Morin, to John Bedini. But at least try to get your facts right... since anyone with half a brain can look them up and check your claims.

You get a ROFL for your trolling effort.  You can't provide anything constructive or on-topic, so you attack me instead, with your false claims, your insults and your ignorance.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 12, 2015, 09:19:58 AM
Synchro1, many times i did experiments with DC CURRENT passing from my multifilar pancake coil and i have zero inductance of one coil to another coil, i think if you connect in "PARALLEL" the pancake coils is the same result, my "multifilar pancake coils" only works with AC CURRENT....! there is no doubt...!

Since inductance is an effect of _changing magnetic fields_.... why should this surprise anyone?

Faraday's Law of Inductance states
E=-d(phi)B/dt

Do you understand what d/dt means?

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The induced electromotive force in any closed circuit is equal to the negative of  the time rate of change  of the magnetic flux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux) enclosed by the circuit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday's_law_of_induction

When you are using DC, the only inductance you get will be at the beginning and end of your DC current pulse.... when the magnetic field produced by the current is _changing_.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 12, 2015, 10:12:27 AM
Why does this TK guy show up on every energy forum on the internet? And all he does is put down all inventors. He always says he knows better and others are stupid.

Now what makes me so curious about his knowledge is the fact he has almost 12,500 post on this forum alone! That is not including the other sites. The stats also show he has spent 112 days of his life on this forum alone! This is not a compliment. My point is how does he know anything if he has spent so much time on the internet arguing with people? How does a guy argue on this website and other energy websites all day everyday and have the time for new experiments?

Every single post of his is nothing but arguing and talking crap about other people. All day every day.

I think you just fell in a deep hole ;D
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Dman0042 on October 12, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
Haha I never said anything about refuting your work TK. I'm not here to refute your work.

My point is you spend an awful lot of time putting people down. That is all I have seen from you. History of mine or not.

If you go to show all your post and read though them it is nothing but you refuting other people ideas and work. Literally. Now that is something I can prove and anyone can look that up and see for themselves.

Regardless of how smart you think you are if you really had some intelligence you wouldn't waste your time calling people stupid. Refuting their ideas and their work. Instead you would solely focus on yourself and your own experiments.

I don't see the point in someone claiming to know so much going through and keeping up with tons of different post arguing with different people at the same time.

Be intelligent. Quit wasting your time.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Dman0042 on October 12, 2015, 12:23:02 PM
Also I'm pretty sure ive seen you trash Nikola Tesla but im wondering why you decided to create your name on here from his just cyphered.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 12, 2015, 03:12:21 PM
Also I'm pretty sure ive seen you trash Nikola Tesla but im wondering why you decided to create your name on here from his just cyphered.

Nah
He came up with his name while holidaying in my country,and came across one of our drop bears in a xmas basket. :D
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 12, 2015, 03:17:34 PM
Haha I never said anything about refuting your work TK. I'm not here to refute your work.

My point is you spend an awful lot of time putting people down. That is all I have seen from you. History of mine or not.

If you go to show all your post and read though them it is nothing but you refuting other people ideas and work. Literally. Now that is something I can prove and anyone can look that up and see for themselves.

Regardless of how smart you think you are if you really had some intelligence you wouldn't waste your time calling people stupid. Refuting their ideas and their work. Instead you would solely focus on yourself and your own experiments.

I don't see the point in someone claiming to know so much going through and keeping up with tons of different post arguing with different people at the same time.

Be intelligent. Quit wasting your time.

Below is a fact that Gerard Morin would think defies all known science and physics.

A team of deep water divers were amazed to find that even after 100 years+ of sitting on the ocean floor,the pool on the Titanic was still full.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 12, 2015, 03:19:25 PM
"welcome?" to this forum, Dman0042.
When TK and others who know their stuff comment on people who DON"T know it,it is done with an intent to teach;  there is no sense in encouraging bad experiments. As a person with > 50 years experience in electronics, I can tell when others know what they are talking about, and TK, MH, the late Mark E. and others do. I also still learn from their teaching and appreciate that.
This site and other 'FE/OU' sites are populated by 'inventors' and scammers. The inventors ARE encouraged to experiment using proper techniques. That results in less time wasted, less money spent and less disappointment.
The scammers are hunted and exposed.
So, why are YOU here? What are you hoping to get out of your time, and what are you willing to contribute?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 12, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
"welcome?" to this forum, Dman0042.
When TK and others who know their stuff comment on people who DON"T know it,it is done with an intent to teach;  there is no sense in encouraging bad experiments. As a person with > 50 years experience in electronics, I can tell when others know what they are talking about, and TK, MH, the late Mark E. and others do. I also still learn from their teaching and appreciate that.
This site and other 'FE/OU' sites are populated by 'inventors' and scammers. The inventors ARE encouraged to experiment using proper techniques. That results in less time wasted, less money spent and less disappointment.
The scammers are hunted and exposed.
So, why are YOU here? What are you hoping to get out of your time, and what are you willing to contribute?

@memoryman,

MarkE always remained a complete gentleman. MH and TK, by contrast have acted like a couple of base cads who vilify and insult people caustically on a regular basis to satisfy their sadistic over-inflated egos. The two of them are gross slap stick, pie in the face stooges. 99.9% of MH's comments are filled with nothing but worthless long winded hot air. 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 12, 2015, 05:08:44 PM
@memoryman,

MarkE always remained a complete gentleman. MH and TK, by contrast have acted like a couple of base cads who vilify and insult people caustically on a regular basis to satisfy their sadistic over-inflated egos. The two of them are gross slap stick, pie in the face stooges. 99.9% of MH's comments are just worthless long winded hot air.

I must say synchro,that you had your battles with MarkE as well,and now he is gone,you seem to imply that you two got along just fine,and he knew his stuff(which he did).
I wonder if and when some one else !moves on! that you dislike in the here and now,that you will also not adopt the same sympathy for them.

Some times we need to take care of what we say to those that really are here to help as much as they can-whether we like what they have to say or not. You would have to agree that the two mentioned do know there stuff,that being TK and MH. I have some good disagreements with MH and some !friendly! debates with TK. But none the less,they both have my respect,and they will till the end of days. You know me,i hate sticking to known law's(theories),so i push my point. But my ears are always open,and nine times out of ten i find they were right..
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 12, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
Since inductance is an effect of _changing magnetic fields_.... why should this surprise anyone?

Faraday's Law of Inductance states
E=-d(phi)B/dt

Do you understand what d/dt means?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday's_law_of_induction

When you are using DC, the only inductance you get will be at the beginning and end of your DC current pulse.... when the magnetic field produced by the current is _changing_.

@Tinselkoala,

What's the difference between the beginning and end of a D.C. pulse and the end and beginning of an A.C. sine wave on either side of the zero line?

A monopole rotor will generate a D.C. wave that stays above the zero line. A signal generator can produce a D.C. square wave. My A.C. bifilar "Self resonant frequency ferrite rotor attraction motor" currently under discussion should generate a kind of A.C. square wave. Do you see any inductance advantage to that kind of signal compared to pulsed D.C.?

You like "Spiny" things, why not give my resonant bifilar air core attraction motor a whirl and find out with your community oscilliscope? This design may reveal the hidden Tesla bifilar amplification advantage I've predicted from the outset.

I suffer from protective tariff rules while in exile down here in Costa Rica where it's very hard for me to procure the components I need. I wasn't raised with your uncanny midnight back alley trash foraging skills.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 12, 2015, 11:00:51 PM
"MarkE always remained a complete gentleman" and I am an incomplete gentleman. Same with most of the posters.
Stuart C (of PESN infamy) disliked my comments, not because the content was wrong, but because my more direct way of getting to the points.
TK and MH are much more direct, as am I. Take it or leave it; the content (message) is important to me, not the messenger.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on October 13, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
@memoryman,

So you want to compare yourself to Mr. Malicious? Very un-flattering.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 13, 2015, 12:53:57 AM
@Tinselkoala,

What's the difference between the beginning and end of a D.C. pulse and the end and beginning of an A.C. sine wave on either side of the zero line?
To answer your question.... in spite of your insults and general bad attitude.... the difference is the _time rate of change_ of the current. If you consider the same amplitude and frequency in both cases, a "DC" pulse will have very rapid rise and fall times as compared to a sine wave "AC". Hence, the induced voltage will be greater during the rise and fall times of the edges of the inducing DC pulse, than it will be during the rising and falling of the sine wave of similar amplitude. This is all contained in the statement and equation of Faraday's law of induction.
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A monopole rotor will generate a D.C. wave that stays above the zero line.


No, it won't. A single polarity of the magnet, when approaching the coil, will have a positive time rate of change of the flux in the coil (Flux increases over time), and when it is receding the time rate of change is negative (flux decreases over time). This flips the sign of the induced voltage, again according to Faraday's law. If you don't believe me, try it yourself. (I just did it here, with the MHOP rotor which is "monopole", that is, has all N poles facing outward. See the scopeshot below. I spun the rotor by hand and had the scope probe connected across the drive coil. Each peak or cycle represents one magnet passing the coil. As the magnet approaches the centerline of the coil, the induced voltage increases to the positive peaks. As the magnet passes and recedes from the coil, the voltage decreases to the negative peaks (valleys).)

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A signal generator can produce a D.C. square wave. My A.C. bifilar "Self resonant frequency ferrite rotor attraction motor" currently under discussion should generate a kind of A.C. square wave. Do you see any inductance advantage to that kind of signal compared to pulsed D.C.?


Your question isn't specific enough. Builders of resonant transformers (like Tesla coils) know that it is the _time rate of change_ of the primary pulse that is important in inducing high voltages in the secondary. The faster the _rise and fall times_ of the primary's pulse, the greater the induced voltage in the secondary. I suggest you copy out the Faraday's Law of Induction formula and meditate upon it. Since square pulses have faster rise and fall times than "AC sine waves" of the same frequency and amplitude, the square pulses will produce more voltage rise in the secondary.

A square wave can be "AC", that is, with zero crossings, or "DC" with only positive going (or negative going) "peaks". Technically, I suppose a "square wave" would be symmetrical about the zero baseline (that is, "AC") , and a "square pulse train" would be all positive (or all negative)... that is, a "square wave" with a DC offset of half-amplitude. Again, it is not so much the zero-crossing (AC vs. DC) that is important in producing induction effects, but the _rise and fall times_ of the pulse or wave edges. The _time rate of change_ of the inducing flux, signified by the d(B)/dt part of the Faraday's Law equation, is the important part, and as the sign of d(B)/dt changes (flux increases or decreases) the polarity of the induced EMF changes. This is why you can stimulate a transformer primary winding with a "DC" pulse train (all positive or negative) and get an "AC" response ( zero crossing) from the secondary.

In another thread I told how to find the resonant frequency of a coil by "striking" it with a single pulse of DC from a battery. The ringdown of the coil at the trailing edge of the supplied DC pulse is _AC_, and the frequency of this AC ringdown is the resonant frequency of the coil (and any associated capacitance forming a resonant tank circuit.) This is, in fact, a general way of determining the inductance of a coil, by pulsing it with a fast edge pulse (either AC or DC) and letting the coil ring when the pulse is removed, and then doing the math of the "resonant frequency equation" to which I have linked many times.

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You like "Spiny" things, why not give my resonant bifilar air core attraction motor a whirl and find out with your community oscilliscope? This design may reveal the hidden Tesla bifilar amplification advantage I've predicted from the outset.


Spinny, not spiny. Sea urchins and cactuses are spiny, motor rotors are spinny. Why not do your own experimentation? You will learn much more that way. If you don't have an "oscilliscope" try to borrow one from your local university or ham radio operator. I think such things exist, even in Costa Rica.
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I suffer from protective tariff rules while in exile down here in Costa Rica where it's very hard for me to procure the components I need. I wasn't raised with your uncanny midnight back alley trash foraging skills.

Are you telling me that you can't find a discarded or surplus CRT chassis, where someone has upgraded from CRT to flatscreen monitor for their TV or computer, to scavenge for magnet wire and other components? You don't have a few plastic jar lids that you can glue a few toy magnets to, for rotors? They don't sell threaded rod and machine nuts in your hardware stores down there? You don't even have any LEDs that you can connect to see polarity of pulses? 

Awwww.... my heart bleeds purple peanut butter for you.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 13, 2015, 01:10:34 AM
Now... making that post, and performing the experiment to illustrate the AC signal coming from a "monopole rotor" passing a coil, added perhaps 45 minutes to my "logged in" time. The knowledge and experience contained in that post cost me _years_ of study, experimentation, and involved hundreds of dollars worth of test equipment and apparatus, both donated and out of my own pocket. There are many other posts that I've made with similar content, construction, research and experimentation behind them, where I try to share my knowledge, correct errors that others have made, and simply to illustrate interesting phenomena.

You greatly misrepresent my work and my presence here, DMan0042.

Haha I never said anything about refuting your work TK. I'm not here to refute your work.
That's obvious... because YOU CANNOT.
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My point is you spend an awful lot of time putting people down. That is all I have seen from you. History of mine or not.
Nobody on this forum has been insulted and "put down" more than I have been, generally by people like YOU who are just trolling, who are ignorant of their topic or who are outright frauds. Welcome to the club.
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If you go to show all your post and read though them it is nothing but you refuting other people ideas and work. Literally. Now that is something I can prove and anyone can look that up and see for themselves.
Oh really? Now you are really showing your ignorance and your lack of actual research.

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Regardless of how smart you think you are if you really had some intelligence you wouldn't waste your time calling people stupid. Refuting their ideas and their work. Instead you would solely focus on yourself and your own experiments.

Like you, you mean? I laugh at you and your trolling.
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I don't see the point in someone claiming to know so much going through and keeping up with tons of different post arguing with different people at the same time.

Be intelligent. Quit wasting your time.
I don't know "so much" but it's pretty clear that I know more than some other people who are making various unsupported and unschooled claims here. What do YOU know? Anything? It's not obvious from your couple of posts which contain insults and errors and misrepresentations that you know anything about me, or about anything at all.  And it's my time to waste, isn't it? Why don't you get off your butt and do some experimentation of your own, and stop bothering people who are actually trying to help. Is it because YOU CANNOT? I laugh at you.

Anybody, even you, can put me on their "Ignore List", and I encourage you to do that thing, if you don't like reading my posts. Hurry! You might see some other information from me that you don't like! Protect yourself from the evil TinselKoala !!


(@Tinman.... heh, now you've revealed my secret.....  ;)   )
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 13, 2015, 01:16:44 AM
synchro: you don' specify who Mr.Malicious is; since I mentioned several people, I won't speculate.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 15, 2015, 02:02:02 AM
I think you just fell in a deep hole ;D
He could be a bot !?  ;D...anyway still waiting if anyone could answer my question including the famous ''bot'' let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?

https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 15, 2015, 03:13:08 AM
He could be a bot !?  ;D ...anyway still waiting if anyone could answer my question including the famous ''bot'' let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?

https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg (https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg)

Asked, and answered several times already. He is not using appropriate equipment or procedures, he is making claims unsupported by actual evidence and he isn't performing actual true experiments. He continually confounds units of power and energy, he misuses the equipment he does have and he clearly doesn't understand his own setups.
Anybody can multiply two numbers together and get some answer that is _mathematically correct_. But if the numbers are garbage "data" to begin with, the result of the math is also meaningless garbage, even if it might be mathematically correct. And that is the case with Morin.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 15, 2015, 09:20:37 AM
Asked, and answered several times already. He is not using appropriate equipment or procedures, he is making claims unsupported by actual evidence and he isn't performing actual true experiments. He continually confounds units of power and energy, he misuses the equipment he does have and he clearly doesn't understand his own setups.
Anybody can multiply two numbers together and get some answer that is _mathematically correct_. But if the numbers are garbage "data" to begin with, the result of the math is also meaningless garbage, even if it might be mathematically correct. And that is the case with Morin.
Thanks for proving I was right !  ;D ...you figure it out ! LOL
“ THE PERSON WHO SAYS IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD NOT INTERRUPT THE PERSON DOING IT ! ” 8)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2015, 10:18:34 AM
Asked, and answered several times already. He is not using appropriate equipment or procedures, he is making claims unsupported by actual evidence and he isn't performing actual true experiments. He continually confounds units of power and energy, he misuses the equipment he does have and he clearly doesn't understand his own setups.
Anybody can multiply two numbers together and get some answer that is _mathematically correct_. But if the numbers are garbage "data" to begin with, the result of the math is also meaningless garbage, even if it might be mathematically correct. And that is the case with Morin.
Hi !

Have not been here for I while, I clicked on the first thread (this one), watched the video, finally skipping to the last comments on this thread (to be honest).
I´ve never seen such a dog-and-pony show here before - and the only overunity here is the self-confidence of the demonstrator.
I can just underline every single statement of TK, just wondering why he is spending part of his lifetime commenting this.
Explaining all effects, misconceptions, errors, assumptions might take lots of hours - including basic fundamentals of all involved parts he is using.
To keep it simple - his lossy motor-generator setup transforms a DC voltage source (batteries) into somewhat high frequency AC current source (Generator has higher idle voltage, inductivity and source resistance).
In combination with lots of different nonlinear loads designed for different voltages and frequencies, using internal regulators (fluorescent ballast or LED drivers) - you can observe what happens.
I skipped all "measurements" and and calculations - because the setups and the used equipment is so wrong to get a clue what is going on here.
A simple test with a linear load resistor+calorimetry (so we can skip expensive RMS meters (does he know what that means ?)) and proper DC input power measurement would prove that there is nothing interesting going on here.
If I would do lectures at a technical college, I could use this video for an exam. "List all misconceptions, measurement errors, wrong assumptions". Would be perfect.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 15, 2015, 12:02:13 PM
For all you idiots out there, you just have to shake your head a little bit because sometimes things can get stuck up there.
This guy is a my new favourite comedian, i like the video where he has the nutty professor confirming seeing the flow of the electrons, you can't see it on camera but with the naked eye you can see things moving at light speed.
Amazing how he get energy out of a pump, yes it's not a generatator but a pump and the energy is building up, he measured the amps with his geiger counter and you can see that the output is 4000x more than the input.


Nice demonstration of using Tesla technology and quantum physics to extract electrons from dark matter!
Can't get enough of this  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)


Bob you like to stick your finger between the two wires.. haha
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2015, 12:26:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)


"we call it now "the pump""
"because it is more energy than volts" 
"This transformer makes 65.000 (!!) volts - because its from a ozon thing and you need more than 50.000 volts to get ozone" yup. pure nonsense.
"This is a closed loop Geiger counter"
"26Amps" Maybe his Geiger counter is not used to something else than 60Hz ?
"The flow of electrons"

Another vid:
Teslas Secret Finally Understood


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ7I9XgaW3A


"its no longer ac current - its radio frequency" wow.

OMG.


Definitely experts in their field. ;D
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 15, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
What more proof do you need? The numbers speak for them self.
This one is self running and charges the battery and is powering a light on top of it!
It doesn't matter volts or amps is all the same, this thing is amazing, can you imagine running this at 10.000 rpm  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLnf_gP7K8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLnf_gP7K8)


 

 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 15, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
I have to admit I am undecided about Gerard.  I can't decide if he is really as dumb as he sounds or if he is just another scam artist.  Nothing he says makes any sense to me.  I worked in electronics on and off for over 50 years.  The last 30 years before I retired I was an industrial maintenance electrician working on all kinds of CNC equipment.  I am also a ham radio operator and fly RC airplanes so I think I know a little about electronics.

I did run into something interesting with the little pump motors Gerard was playing with.  Someone else tipped me off to them acting a little strange.  So I did some testing of my own.  If you remove the pump housing and the rotor you now have a nice coil assembly to play with that is a little unusual.  There are two coils with one coil on each leg of the stator laminations.  Very similar to the Ed Ledskilnin PMH.

After I built a test setup to test the coil assembly as a generator I got some interesting results.  I was using a razor scooter motor that has not been modified in any way.   I also have a crankshaft pulley from a Honda Accord as a flywheel. (This is actually for another test).  I have a rotor that has eight 1 inch ceramic magnets mounted in the rotor.  This is made in such a way that the magnets of the rotor can pass between the ends of the laminations of the pump motor coils.

I ran this test setup for about 15 minutes with no coils anywhere near the magnets.  I did this to let the bearings and motor warm up to get a good baseline current draw.  After the current had settled down I took a baseline reading with a digital meter and the current was 1.00 amps at a voltage of 12.44 volts going to the motor.  This gives a power calculation of about 12.44 watts for a no load condition.

When I added the pump motor coils to the test setup I got 9 volts from them going into a 50 ohm load.  At that time I did not have an extra digital ammeter so I calculated the current and the wattage and came up with 1.62 watts going into the 50 ohm load.

The interesting part is that the input current only went up by .1 amp for an increase in power in of 1.24 watts.  So if my measurements are correct then the pump motor coils are 130% efficient.  I am open to the idea that I made a mistake somewhere but if you think I did please show me where.  I have included a picture to show how the coils and rotor are working together.  Note that for the test I held the coils by hand as I have not taken time to make a good mounting system for the coils.

Also if you are looking for some of these coils most of them have a plastic housing on them which does not let you see the coils.  I was fortunate enough to find a couple of them without that housing so you can see exactly how the coils are wired and mounted.

Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 15, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
What more proof do you need? The numbers speak for them self.
This one is self running and charges the battery and is powering a light on top of it!
It doesn't matter volts or amps is all the same, this thing is amazing, can you imagine running this at 10.000 rpm  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLnf_gP7K8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLnf_gP7K8)

Sorry but if you think volts and amps are the same you really need to spend some time learning a little about electronics.  Voltage readings or current readings by themselves mean nothing.  You have to combine the two to get a power value and THAT is the only value that means anything when trying to measure efficiency of a circuit.

As far as that video it means nothing.  In fact it is a joke.  Why is he using a meter that has an almost dead battery?  Anyone that has a digital meter knows the readings get flaky when the battery gets low.  And why does he need another transformer to step the voltage down to 12 volts and rectify it to charge the battery when he already has a battery charger connected to the battery?  And what are all the caps for?

Gerard showed a video almost identical to that one where he took the power from a battery and ran it to an inverter and then to motor controller and then powered the motor to drive a generator which he then fed back to a battery charger and claimed he was keeping the battery charged.  He said he was going to come back in the morning and show us the battery was still charged and the system still running.  The video ended and we never saw what he found when he went back.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: ramset on October 15, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
citfta
Quote

The interesting part is that the input current only went up by .1 amp for an increase in power in of 1.24 watts.  So if my measurements are correct then the pump motor coils are 130% efficient.

end quote
Sir
Do you have a schematic ?

apologies  if you have provided this already.

respectfully

Chet
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 15, 2015, 06:21:13 PM
Hi Chet,

No schematic, but the output of the coils just went directly to the 50 ohm resistance load.  I measured the rms value with my scope that has a function to measure rms or p-p.  Also the frequency of the signal was 95 hertz.  The coils are wired in series and in series with the load.  Just a simple loop.

Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: ramset on October 15, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
Carroll
thank you for the response.
I am always asked for a schematic no matter how simple the circuit may seem, even a "napkin" schematic would be of great benefit
especially where you are taking measurements .

_apparent_ excess energy can be quite tricky and in "most" cases explained away.
it would be good to investigate this claim as effectively as possible and account for all energy in the System.

sometimes it can be the simple things that escape measurement [like heat and RF] for instance we were wasting heat or
sending out RF [unbeknownst] and then did something which stopped the waste and put it to work so it could then be measured
into our system adding to our COP measurement .

in these cases [OU COP Claims] all things must be measured and accounted for ,it also helps get the community
onto things which have more potential , I am not saying anything negative about your experience just adding some advice which has helped myself and others save countless wasted hours and resource.

respectfully

Chet

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 15, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Sorry but if you think volts and amps are the same you really need to spend some time learning a little about electronics.  Voltage readings or current readings by themselves mean nothing.  You have to combine the two to get a power value and THAT is the only value that means anything when trying to measure efficiency of a circuit.

As far as that video it means nothing.  In fact it is a joke.  Why is he using a meter that has an almost dead battery?  Anyone that has a digital meter knows the readings get flaky when the battery gets low.  And why does he need another transformer to step the voltage down to 12 volts and rectify it to charge the battery when he already has a battery charger connected to the battery?  And what are all the caps for?

Gerard showed a video almost identical to that one where he took the power from a battery and ran it to an inverter and then to motor controller and then powered the motor to drive a generator which he then fed back to a battery charger and claimed he was keeping the battery charged.  He said he was going to come back in the morning and show us the battery was still charged and the system still running.  The video ended and we never saw what he found when he went back.

Respectfully,
Carroll


I don't think volts and amps are the same, Gerard Morin does in the video i posted, he is mixing volts with amps and thinks his multimeter is a geiger counter, how in the world can you belief this guy  :o

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 15, 2015, 08:20:11 PM

I don't think volts and amps are the same, Gerard Morin does in the video i posted, he is mixing volts with amps and thinks his multimeter is a geiger counter, how in the world can you belief this guy  :o

Sorry about that.  I didn't realize you were quoting from the video.  I should have read more carefully.  And I agree I don't see how anyone can believe that guy.  I expect one day we will read where he or someone else trying to do his tricks will have been electrocuted.  I don't think he is funny at all.  There are too many gullible people in the world today that believe anything they see.  Just like Ufopolitics he can talk a wild game and will lead a lot of people to spend a lot of money they probably can't afford to try and get free energy.  There are many people on the Erroneous Forum that have spent hundreds of dollars buying motors to try and make what Ufo promised them.  Now they are all gone with no OU motors and Dufo is trying to make a magnet motor.  I hate to see people so foolish with their hard earned money.

Again I apologize for misunderstanding your post.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 15, 2015, 11:46:28 PM
citfta, I too have 50+ years in electronics. I also work in cnc maintenance/upgrade/repair. We actually may know each other.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 15, 2015, 11:59:45 PM
Hi Memoryman,

Anything is possible I guess.  I worked for a Defense contractor in Louisville, Ky.  I retired 8 years ago.  Where did you work if you don't mind sharing that publicly?  Or send me a PM if you would rather not make that info public.  What brand of machines did you work on?  I worked on Cincinnatti Milacron machines and Kearney and Trecker machines and many other smaller brands.  These included lathes and mills and even a couple of industrial lasers.

Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 16, 2015, 01:25:35 AM
Hi Carroll.
No, I don't make a secret of my life.
I worked for GE in the middle '70s as a field service engineer, Mark Century 100, 7500, 550 and 1050 controls, along with Umac controls. Went independent in '79 and serviced almost anything (Cinci Milicron Big Blue, some K&T, Fanuc, and whatever else came up. Designed my first product in 1988 (GE1050 memory board) and did many Fanuc control memory upgrades, with Mitsubishi and Yasnac next. you may have heard of my company Tulip Electronics.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 16, 2015, 01:45:25 AM
Hi again,

Yes I have heard of your company.  I don't recall that you did any work for us while I was working there but I didn't start there until the early 1980's.  When I first started there it was the Naval Ordnance Station Louisville.  Then when they started the base closure stuff our place was privatized and I went to work for the contractor that took over the plant.  That was a branch of FMC which later became United Defense and then was later bought out by BAE which still owns it.  I was able to retire a few years after BAE bought it out.

I do remember the old Mark Century stuff that was still there when I started.  And then by the time I retired a lot of the controls had been replaced by Fanuc.  And we had some Siemens controls and they were changing to some open controls using Windows NT not long before I retired.  We had a lot of the K&T machines so I got pretty good at repairing them.  I could almost tell what board was bad by just watching the machine run.  In some ways I miss the challenge of working on them and in other ways I am glad I don't have to do that every day now.

Take care,
Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 16, 2015, 08:51:31 AM
Sorry about that.  I didn't realize you were quoting from the video.  I should have read more carefully.  And I agree I don't see how anyone can believe that guy.  I expect one day we will read where he or someone else trying to do his tricks will have been electrocuted.  I don't think he is funny at all.  There are too many gullible people in the world today that believe anything they see.  Just like Ufopolitics he can talk a wild game and will lead a lot of people to spend a lot of money they probably can't afford to try and get free energy.  There are many people on the Erroneous Forum that have spent hundreds of dollars buying motors to try and make what Ufo promised them.  Now they are all gone with no OU motors and Dufo is trying to make a magnet motor.  I hate to see people so foolish with their hard earned money.

Again I apologize for misunderstanding your post.

Respectfully,
Carroll


Exactly how i feel about it, it's a shame people wasting time and money because of people like this.


Thank you!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 16, 2015, 12:21:28 PM
If you want to see something that is funny you should go to the erroneous forum and read the last page or so of Dufo's thread about his special motor that no one can build.  After I posted I would not be back on that forum someone named bistander started posting about all the mistakes that Dufo has made in his calculations.  He and Dufo have really be going at it.  Now Dufo is convinced that bistander is me using another user name!  He has even threatened to go to Aaron to complain about one person having two identities.  The madder Dufo gets the more bistander laughs at him.  I don't post there anymore but I have been watching that war of wills.

I just saw where you have been to that thread.  By the way I am NOT bistander.  But I like his style.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 16, 2015, 02:11:16 PM
If you want to see something that is funny you should go to the erroneous forum and read the last page or so of Dufo's thread about his special motor that no one can build.  After I posted I would not be back on that forum someone named bistander started posting about all the mistakes that Dufo has made in his calculations.  He and Dufo have really be going at it.  Now Dufo is convinced that bistander is me using another user name!  He has even threatened to go to Aaron to complain about one person having two identities.  The madder Dufo gets the more bistander laughs at him.  I don't post there anymore but I have been watching that war of wills.

I just saw where you have been to that thread.  By the way I am NOT bistander.  But I like his style.


To me it looks like that ufo guy and Gerard Moron are the same person or at least they are relatives ;)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 16, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Well for the most part Dufo can speak much more intelligently than Gerard.  He is wrong a lot of the time but at least he does seem to know the lingo.  Whereas Gerard can hardly put together an intelligent sentence.  Maybe they are cousins.  I don't know where bistander came from but it is fun to see him prove Dufo wrong.  It appears Dufo is so flustered now all he can do is accuse bistander of being me.   LOL
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 16, 2015, 05:03:13 PM
Many people behaving like these clown's on forums like this and they have a lot of monkey followers  :(

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: MileHigh on October 16, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
Well for the most part Dufo can speak much more intelligently than Gerard.  He is wrong a lot of the time but at least he does seem to know the lingo.  Whereas Gerard can hardly put together an intelligent sentence.  Maybe they are cousins.  I don't know where bistander came from but it is fun to see him prove Dufo wrong.  It appears Dufo is so flustered now all he can do is accuse bistander of being me.   LOL

I was curious so I read the debate myself.  Poor Dufo got a bunch of holes punched into his reality distortion zone.  I get the feeling that the "Cult of Dufo" is on the downhill slide.

Dufo's cult reminds me of the Imhotep craze from several years back.  "Free energy at last, step by step a must see" my derriere.  People went almost nuts by modifying a standard computer fan and turning it into a simple pulse motor.  But alas Imhotep was a one trick pony and faded into obscurity.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 16, 2015, 10:57:08 PM
That's  hilarious all right! "Dufo" can't seem to keep his units straight, or doesn't realize that units have to work out algebraically just like the numbers themselves do. Maybe it's a language problem.... bistander speaks mathematics and Dufo speaks Hungarian.

I mean, how is it possible to claim, with a straight face, that a brush doesn't contact a commutator segment once per revolution? Insert Homer Simpson facepalm here.

Here's a thought: Maybe Dufo, HypeGirl and Moron should get together. Dufo's motor can turn HypeGirl's QEG and they can feed the "resonant" output into Gerard's polepigs.... and they can all have a big party with their clampon meters, shouting "Officially Overunity Galore!!" while Nikola Tesla is rolling in his grave and the garage breakers trip from all the current drawn.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
How is this possible he is powering a 6KW load while recharging the generator.
Seems to me he is right, it's all in the voltage and radiation, amps don't mean anything.
We have been ripped of for more than 100 years people wake up. Why do we still pay for electricity
when we can get it for free? Nicolas Teslar was already doing this in 1893.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY)


I know there are people who will question anything but please don't think just replicate this because he is not
spending the rest of his live explaining how it works, it just does!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 17, 2015, 01:56:23 PM
How is this possible he is powering a 6KW load while recharging the generator.
Seems to me he is right, it's all in the voltage and radiation, amps don't mean anything.
We have been ripped of for more than 100 years people wake up. Why do we still pay for electricity
when we can get it for free? Nicolas Teslar was already doing this in 1893.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Spf5WVGgSY)


I know there are people who will question anything but please don't think just replicate this because he is not
spending the rest of his live explaining how it works, it just does!

Are you serious ::)
We have been through this all before. Are you as clueless as Gerard Moron.

He is generating nothing in the way of OU-not even remotely close. !he! cant measure power,and !you! cant see what he cant do.

Gerard moron has nothing-never did,never will.
Do you really think that some one that cant measure power in and out would be able to come up with an OU device?. The guy is lost in his own inabilities,and he is starting to believe his own rubbish.

By the way-Nikola Tesla never ever said he had or built an OU  device-period.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
Are you serious ::)


No i'm not but i find his video's very entertaining, he really says he is recharging his petrol generator  ;D



Better watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 17, 2015, 02:20:02 PM

No i'm not but i find his video's very entertaining  ;D


Better watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0)

The same BS over and over.
Once again we have ex/spurts telling us this, that, and the other,when they have no idea as to what the magnetic force is. A classic example of how they claim to  know so much about something they dont understand  ::)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 17, 2015, 02:45:36 PM

By the way-Nikola Tesla never ever said he had or built an OU  device-period.

Hi Tinman
Taken from here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm

How do you iterpret this?

Tesla:
"....Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular."
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Here at 37:00 he reveals the secret, it's a fuel cell!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg)



Folks here it is, he can't fight this war on his own. Don't be a slave to the system!
If you are a electronic nerd please contact this guy and help him build his 1000hp electromagnetic impulse engine, it
runs on a 9v battery and gets it's power from natural electrons, it's like a turbine!


Teslar cars are just battery operated dildo's  ;D
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
Hi Tinman
Taken from here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm)

How do you iterpret this?

Tesla:
"....Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular."


He is just saying that if you charge a capacitor and discharge it at once you get more power in a shorter time.
He talks about activity power not about excess power.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 17, 2015, 04:04:00 PM
Hi Tinman
Taken from here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm

How do you iterpret this?

Tesla:
"....Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular."

Once again,i see people using Tesla's name to promote book sales.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on October 17, 2015, 04:06:56 PM
Here at 37:00 he reveals the secret, it's a fuel cell!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOq9C3YSjKg)



Folks here it is, he can't fight this war on his own. Don't be a slave to the system!
If you are a electronic nerd please contact this guy and help him build his 1000hp electromagnetic impulse engine, it
runs on a 9v battery and gets it's power from natural electrons, it's like a turbine!


Teslar cars are just battery operated dildo's  ;D

Natural electrons hey. Well do you think electrons could be man made?
I get the feeling you are only here to promote moron's rubbish to boost up his youtube hit's,thus making him more cash. Are you on the pay roll?.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 17, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
Natural electrons hey. Well do you think electrons could be man made?
I get the feeling you are only here to promote moron's rubbish to boost up his youtube hit's,thus making him more cash. Are you on the pay roll?.

Tinman,  you are making the same mistake I made a couple of days ago.  Scratchrobot is only poking fun at the foolish videos by quoting them.  I think it is called satire.  He is not really serious.  We both agree it is a shame so many people think this guy is for real.  What a sad commentary on our educational system.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 05:02:01 PM
Natural electrons hey. Well do you think electrons could be man made?
I get the feeling you are only here to promote moron's rubbish to boost up his youtube hit's,thus making him more cash. Are you on the pay roll?.


Don't shoot the messenger, i only give you the info, it's up to you what you do with it  :P


Look at 7:15 the things this man does to save the world, it's ridiculous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzXuN0-K5A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzXuN0-K5A)

26:00 - Genius  :)  Below absolute zero... N.A.S.A blablabla

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 05:12:14 PM
Tinman,  you are making the same mistake I made a couple of days ago.  Scratchrobot is only poking fun at the foolish videos by quoting them.  I think it is called satire.  He is not really serious.  We both agree it is a shame so many people think this guy is for real.  What a sad commentary on our educational system.

Respectfully,
Carroll


Yes it's satire for me, normally i hate video's with people making false claims but Gerard Morin's video's are different.
They are really nice to watch, i hope he does another video with Robert Klein soon.

He just needs some nerds and a few K not billions.
"It's simple turn of the power and you and the 24 hours are put back to stone age! in 72 hours millions of people will die. The goverment is like if you don't like us then we turn the switch off. The stupidity will wipe us out!"
blablabla BRILIANT!

How we get to the thruth when we have no common sense and look like a dear in the front lights?

Regards
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
Hi it's me again,

After watching Gerards video's over and over again i think i have figured out where the excess energy is converted from the dark matter, look at this video at 3:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaSvtjoAMk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaSvtjoAMk)
It's the air gap (half inch) inside the plastic tube where the energy comes in, you have to tune (wiggle) it!

200Amp 400Volt, where is the voltage coming from..? good question!
We call it a pump, generator, oscillator, you can put all the name on it, nothing fancy.


It's that simple!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)
5:10 It was a long walk and a long summer  ;D
8:05 Bob you like to stick your finger between the wires  ;D


They create radiation on the other end of the spectrum, 4000 times of Amp volume of what the battery puts up. ???
On the other hands the number may not be meaningless but outside the range of this device. The glass is not emitting light but the vacuum is emitting light. Thats important. We call it dark matter but we are absorbing the photons and holding them. In a way we see the effect of dark matter with or own eyes. It's effected by gravity so it takes a lot of electron pairs to form a nutron!


You splash the electron and you start with a lot of resistance but when you spin it harder the resistance goes away.
You can create a complex device dut in essence you create a sine wave whipping electrons over the gate, electrons don't come from the battery but from dark matter and you get horse power.



There are no molecules in the tube, the tube is full of dark matter electron pairs, we never create a perfect vacuum!

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 17, 2015, 10:21:44 PM
a real head scratcher  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEOX6AU7z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEOX6AU7z8)


5:25 - Meters don't lie 400 Amps out 1 Amp in
6:10 - Meters don't lie. 500 below zero!


That bulb is emitting a strong EMF, something is going on here!
As long as we use proper oscillation we can multiply by 1000000X
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on October 17, 2015, 10:53:26 PM
a real head scratcher  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEOX6AU7z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEOX6AU7z8)


5:25 - Meters don't lie 400 Amps out 1 Amp in
6:10 - Meters don't lie. 500 below zero!


That bulb is emitting a strong EMF, something is going on here!
As long as we use proper oscillation we can multiply by 1000000X

500 below zero eh.  Hummm.  According to the real scientists of the world -459.67 degrees F.  is absolute zero.  I wonder how he is doing that?  I guess I need to watch that video more closely.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 18, 2015, 11:25:13 AM
Once again,i see people using Tesla's name to promote book sales.

Hi Tinman :) We (the book sellers) have to live somehow!!! :D :D



Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 18, 2015, 12:28:19 PM
Hi Tinman
Taken from here: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm)

How do you iterpret this?

Tesla:
"....Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular."

Jeg, it's the difference between Peak Power and Average Power. The Peak Power output of a proper Tesla Coil can easily be, as Tesla said, several Megawatts with only a few watts input ... but this output power is "chopped up" so that it only occurs for very short intervals, repeated many times per second, with gaps between the high-power pulsations. When the power is averaged properly over an appropriate time interval to obtain an _energy throughput value_ it can be seen clearly that there is really no energy gain. However, the high peak power output can produce effects that are spectacular and utterly unobtainable by the average input power. Just not "more energy out than in".

This distinction between Peak and Average powers has tripped up a lot of people, and it is _part_ of Morin's problem. Another part is his blind trust of digital meters (Meters don't lie!) and numbers in boxes, without his understanding of the basic phenomena he is dealing with and without understanding the basics of measurement.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 18, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
Thank you Tinsel and scratchrobot.
I just wonder what happens if inconceivably small time interval is so small, magnitudes smaller than the actual RC discharging constant of the circuit. Capacitor or coil or battery, in such a small time interval doesn't have time to give any current at the output. Only pure voltage pulses or radiant if you like will be released. Isn't it a fact that radiant induces current by its interaction with copper? If not I am sorry for mentioning this. But if it is like that, how can someone predict input and output consumption numbers with the well known equations?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 18, 2015, 03:08:44 PM
Thank you Tinsel and scratchrobot.
I just wonder what happens if inconceivably small time interval is so small, magnitudes smaller than the actual RC discharging constant of the circuit. Capacitor or coil or battery, in such a small time interval doesn't have time to give any current at the output. Only pure voltage pulses or radiant if you like will be released. Isn't it a fact that radiant induces current by its interaction with copper? If not I am sorry for mentioning this. But if it is like that, how can someone predict input and output consumption numbers with the well known equations?


Isn't this what Bedini is doing? I think it is very difficult to predict the numbers but many experiments have been done but none resulted in overunity.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 18, 2015, 03:49:43 PM

but many experiments have been done but none resulted in overunity.

The question for me is how many experimenters have made a solid state switch that hard closes and opens few million times per second and able to withstand serius amounts of voltage without the ionizing effects of spark gaps?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 18, 2015, 09:30:15 PM
The question for me is how many experimenters have made a solid state switch that hard closes and opens few million times per second and able to withstand serius amounts of voltage without the ionizing effects of spark gaps?

Lots of them. All builders of solid-state Tesla coils, for example. Big SSTCs using fullbridge IGBT primary drivers, for instance.

And even small ones using just a single mosfet with a PLL driver configuration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQ5WnziKBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQ5WnziKBA)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 18, 2015, 09:37:49 PM
Thank you Tinsel and scratchrobot.
I just wonder what happens if inconceivably small time interval is so small, magnitudes smaller than the actual RC discharging constant of the circuit. Capacitor or coil or battery, in such a small time interval doesn't have time to give any current at the output. Only pure voltage pulses or radiant if you like will be released. Isn't it a fact that radiant induces current by its interaction with copper? If not I am sorry for mentioning this. But if it is like that, how can someone predict input and output consumption numbers with the well known equations?

What is this "radiant" in your definition?
In all cases I have ever seen, "radiant" refers to what is actually radio-frequency, more or less high voltage, broadband noise. Which creates an oscillating EM-field, which has the various effects we all know about. Pure voltage pulses? Voltage is charge pressure, relative to some reference, which happens because someone or something is stuffing charge into a reservoir (or draining it away).  When charge moves... as it must in order to produce a voltage difference... that is current.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 18, 2015, 11:41:34 PM
Hi Tinsel :)
Rf is a different story than radiant. Rf can be shielded but radiant can not. Rf is transverse radiant is longitudinal.
I still haven't found any effective way to close and open fast a switch between a cap and a load. The cap would be at about 300 up to 3000 volts for experimentation. I would like speeds up to some few MHz. Do you have something to propose? What is your opinion on Gerry Vassilatos and Ledemann thesis on the whole radiant story?   
     
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 19, 2015, 03:54:19 AM
Jeg, I am experimenting with HV solid state cap discharges; caps in the 0.5uF area, voltages up to 15kV, discharge times < 100 nS. That requires serious (read expensive) switches.
Have a look at this company's products: http://siliconpowercorporation.com/solidtron-products/
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 19, 2015, 08:28:12 AM
Hi Tinsel :)
Rf is a different story than radiant. Rf can be shielded but radiant can not. Rf is transverse radiant is longitudinal.
It still sounds to me like you are talking about the E-component of the EM field. And I don't suppose you have any evidence... like comparison experiments... that support the contentions. Any that might be better than this, I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk
Quote
I still haven't found any effective way to close and open fast a switch between a cap and a load. The cap would be at about 300 up to 3000 volts for experimentation. I would like speeds up to some few MHz. Do you have something to propose?

See Memoryman's post.
Advanced spark gaps (check _all_ of Tesla's spark gap designs) might still be the best choice for the experimenter on a budget. You could also try vacuum tubes, as are used in high-power high frequency radio transmitters, but this will not be cheap either and isn't for the average garage experimenter.
Quote
What is your opinion on Gerry Vassilatos and Ledemann thesis on the whole radiant story?   
     

BS. That is, word salad re-definitions of ordinary phenomena, constructed by people with some kind of "look-at-me" agenda. Where are the actual _true experiments_ that support their thesis? They just demonstrate things and put their own explanations up for them, rather than trying real experimentation that could have the potential to produce contrary data.

Well, you asked my opinion, and there it is.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 19, 2015, 10:56:25 AM
Jeg, I am experimenting with HV solid state cap discharges; caps in the 0.5uF area, voltages up to 15kV, discharge times < 100 nS. That requires serious (read expensive) switches.
Have a look at this company's products: http://siliconpowercorporation.com/solidtron-products/

Thanks a lot for the link memoryman! Yes they look expensive but i will send them an email out of curiosity. Do you see any interesting effect? Any stringing sensations at higher voltage discharges? With a setup like that i would 'play' all day long! :)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Jeg on October 19, 2015, 11:53:59 AM
It still sounds to me like you are talking about the E-component of the EM field. And I don't suppose you have any evidence... like comparison experiments... that support the contentions. Any that might be better than this, I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk
See Memoryman's post.
Advanced spark gaps (check _all_ of Tesla's spark gap designs) might still be the best choice for the experimenter on a budget. You could also try vacuum tubes, as are used in high-power high frequency radio transmitters, but this will not be cheap either and isn't for the average garage experimenter.
BS. That is, word salad re-definitions of ordinary phenomena, constructed by people with some kind of "look-at-me" agenda. Where are the actual _true experiments_ that support their thesis? They just demonstrate things and put their own explanations up for them, rather than trying real experimentation that could have the potential to produce contrary data.

Well, you asked my opinion, and there it is.

Tinsel i would appreciate it a lot if you could describe me how you make these multiple quote answers. When i press the Quote button, the whole of your answer is quoted, and that's it. I can't make other quoting.

Your video is very fine! Did you try it with a normal solenoid coil instead of caduceus to see the difference? We know the difference but it would be very nice if there was any form of comparison between them.

Vacuum tubes. The perfect switch to replicate Gray's tube experiments and not only! But as you said garage experimentation needs cheap and clever designs to compensate the money difference. I fight on this challenge for a long time. No success until now.

For me Lidenmann just writes the story. We are the experimenters that hunt the truth. That is my main reason that i want to build a switch like this. If you remember before almost three years i had built a power mosfet spark gap control. It was cool for high power experiments but still had the well known problems when quenching is missing. Quenching is the most critical part and absolutely necessary. Last months i tried a lot to design something with just diodes and high frequency coils. No fruits until now but i am really confident that it can be made!

Your opinion will be always welcomed as it is always supported with real results. That is the why it is asked from many of us ;) Thanks
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 27, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
Jeg, to see how to use the BBCode "quote" tags in a quote, just use the Quote button to quote one of my posts and then look for the
Quote
insert quoted text here
parts.
No, the transmitter for the Caduceus coil will only work for that particular coil so I can't test it with a similar, solenoidal wound transmission coil. I could use other transmitter circuitry but that wouldn't really be a fair test.


Meanwhile.... maybe the Morin fans from EF are reading here. It took me about 30 seconds to dig up the following information. But really, if a builder can't find or interpret this stuff on his own... maybe he's in the right place for "replicating" Morin's kludges after all:

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 29, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
Dear ALL and sure robotinselnoway...LOL how you like them OU apples !? ; ) https://youtu.be/fnWuPzAKigs
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 29, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
I see a lot of large batteries.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on October 29, 2015, 04:50:07 PM
Dear ALL and sure robotinselnoway...LOL how you like them OU apples !? ; ) https://youtu.be/fnWuPzAKigs (https://youtu.be/fnWuPzAKigs)


Nice one  :)  but i think Gerard Morin's video's are better. I hope he makes new video's soon.


 
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 29, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
Neither shows OU.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on October 29, 2015, 08:06:06 PM
Dear ALL and sure robotinselnoway...LOL how you like them OU apples !? ; ) https://youtu.be/fnWuPzAKigs (https://youtu.be/fnWuPzAKigs)
Sure, big batteries and improper measurements will always give you "overunity galore". But it won't run at all without the batteries.

Here's some apples for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on October 29, 2015, 08:26:39 PM
Sure, big batteries and improper measurements will always give you "overunity galore". But it won't run at all without the batteries.

Here's some apples for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ)

Eventually yes there must be something to it because if it is true he should bare minimum have it self running on a few boost-caps  ! Yes you should multiply your green (LED'S) apples !  ;D Anyway I liked the '' Electric OU: Coil Shorting Shunt Motor Demo 1 ! '' as it shows really the assistance to your little motor of ''eather'' energy !  Definitely something there that's for sure !  :o
https://youtu.be/hvgBkm-QuYc
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on October 29, 2015, 08:28:54 PM
tesletic, what is the 'something' that you keep referring to?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on January 02, 2016, 07:10:16 PM
tesletic, what is the 'something' that you keep referring to?

Well just replying to there must be something to it what TinselKoala was saiying ''Sure, big batteries and improper measurements will always give you "overunity galore". But it won't run at all without the batteries. ''

...a Happy & Healty 2016 all  ;)

PS. Still waiting for someone to tell me what is wrong with ''our'' GEGENE calculation <!?
https://youtu.be/abadWctCggE
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on January 02, 2016, 08:25:38 PM
I can't do that without a proper translation into English.
At any rate, the underlying principle is wrong.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on January 10, 2016, 02:22:07 PM
Hi all, at least we starting the year of with a bang and on the right RADIANT track ! Hopefully not the track to the cemetery !  ;D https://youtu.be/vymQ2uty51M

I think all these systems including the Morin stuff, back EMF designs and all the other phenomenons apparently occurring are no more no less as the ''aether'' (or whatever you want to call it)  trying to reestablish itself when it get's disrupted ! That is eventually is also what this ZVS does just disrupting the ''aether'' about a few 100Khs a second so most of the energy is coming from the ''aether'' and to proof this (my) theory we have to be able to make at least one self-running device because otherwise it will stay only a theory ! Although we see in our measurements the proof !? https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg

PS.Hereby I thank Igor and nick for sharing their knowledge to the world as this is the only way we are getting out of this world controlled by $ !
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: AlienGrey on January 13, 2016, 03:24:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARbLvbBTIJ4

This guy Wow!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: chosenbygrace on January 21, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
Why does this TK guy show up on every energy forum on the internet? And all he does is put down all inventors. He always says he knows better and others are stupid.

You're not making a point, it has none, it's a question with no point with the implication that you're annoyance (FEELINGS) are evidence of truth about something. This is the same bad reasoning people like yourself use to determine spiritual truths and argue against the Bible. People like you say, "Oh so you know everything do you, only you know about the Bible, all these other Christians are wrong, Muslims are wrong Buddhists are wrong and only YOU Daniel are right?! Arrogance!" And yet all that ranting is not evidence that I am wrong and by saying "you Daniel" is a strawman argument since I don't say only I my individual self is right, not that you are saying that, but people like you make arguments like that.

Now what makes me so curious about his knowledge is the fact he has almost 12,500 post on this forum alone! That is not including the other sites. The stats also show he has spent 112 days of his life on this forum alone! This is not a compliment. My point is how does he know anything if he has spent so much time on the internet arguing with people?

You still haven't made a point, just because someone has made much arguments doesn't mean they haven't learned anything to make logical arguments. In order for you to have a point you have to point out that this person you're arguing against has made illogical points or is simply saying "this is wrong", which is basically how you're arguing, saying, "this sounds wrong because he says everyone else is wrong", but does he say everyone else is wrong? He's defending using accurate measurements and against using inadequate measuring and saying why Morin's measurements are not sufficient as proof of anything Morin claims, specifically more energy out than is put in. And he's right in that there's no good proof of at least most OU devices as: in what video does anyone show a clearly OU device, or a looped device powering itself and showing a time lapse video of at least, perhaps a week or month of it running nonstop? There is no such video, and is there some blueprint for such a device that anyone can use math and known physics to prove would run itself?

How does a guy argue on this website and other energy websites all day everyday and have the time for new experiments?

How do you know that in the other days he's not arguing, before he's even argued that he hasn't? Have you really tracked him so thoroughly, besides that, he's arguing over measurements, why is that not good to you?

Every single post of his is nothing but arguing and talking crap about other people. All day every day.

To say "talking crap" without proof of why it is crap is "talking crap" itself. There is no way you're a Christian, I can tell, a truly saved Christian wouldn't reason the stupid emotional way you are, not that you claim to be one. If you are saved, you must be a newbie to Christianity. YES, there is great value to following Christ, it makes you logical and in control of your temper, superior to a mere "scientist".

Also, you're clearly being biased because in Morin's vids he left and right criticizes, and in an immature way everyone who believes in conventional measuring of motors and generators and conventional interpretations of those measurements, and on his youtube page he only shows he's favored a few vids, so how is he not the one "talking crap" and why do the videos of people making traditional experiments and giving traditional explanations not count for anything to you? The way Morin insults others also reminds me of the way a narcissist will, a narcissist as in a mentally ill person who is permanently bitter at the world because he believes he's superior to them and feels offended that he was told otherwise (sometimes in a harsh way that causes them to get PTSD leading to permanent narcissism eventually if they don't get therapy, which is futile after age 16 as the extreme arrogance and bitterness becomes permanently set at about that age).
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on January 21, 2016, 11:49:16 PM
''RADIANT ENERGY''
Hey Guys good news ! This is the way to investigate more !? Although Igor himself says no OU ! I do see it different ! Anyway very good result by my friends ! Please check it out as it is a simple setup but promising results ! So do some test and of-course let everybody know ! First clip shows Nick doing a test and then Igor respond ! Can't wait to get my ZVS ! 8)

Nick's first run...
https://youtu.be/vymQ2uty51M

Igor's latest ...a big step !!!!???
https://youtu.be/ZDzAq5-soTM

Very first from Igor with an IT where he could not complete the looping because he had no pure sign inverter  !
https://youtu.be/IpAuvTBCugs?list=UUVesA155Der2tRd5vpyYdJw
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on January 22, 2016, 12:07:03 AM
 Unless you can unequivocally demonstrate OU by extended self looping, you have nothing promising.All these 'demonstrations' are fluff.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on January 22, 2016, 12:09:41 AM
Unless you can unequivocally demonstrate OU by extended self looping, you have nothing promising.All these 'demonstrations are fluff.
Sorry but did you take a good look ! Batteries stay same level and at the same time the lights are ON my friend  !?  ::)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on January 22, 2016, 12:11:55 AM
Yes, I did. Where is the extended self looping?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: synchro1 on January 22, 2016, 06:22:56 PM
Yes, I did. Where is the extended self looping?

@memoryman,

All Igor needs to do to go OU is to design a way to use the excess heat purposefully.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on April 25, 2016, 08:04:43 AM

I think all these systems including the Morin stuff, back EMF designs and all the other phenomenons apparently occurring are no more no less as the ''aether'' (or whatever you want to call it)  trying to reestablish itself when it get's disrupted ! That is eventually is also what this ZVS does just disrupting the ''aether'' about a few 100Khs a second so most of the energy is coming from the ''aether'' and to proof this (my) theory we have to be able to make at least one self-running device because otherwise it will stay only a theory !

I think you have the right idea here.

Morin should not make claims of overunity when he, like many others, are merely oscillating the Aether (not ether, the element), hense moving electron potential, electrons or any other potentials we are not aware of yet....its not really over unity or super efficient (COP=1+) but its just a super-fast, repeatative process, which gives us what we want in the load.

In effect, we disturb the Aether, it snaps back instantly, we disturb it again...and again...and again...tweaking the Aether like a guitar string.

And the "measurers" will scream....we cant measure it so it cant be real!!!!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on April 25, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
"And the "measurers" will scream....we cant measure it so it cant be real!!!!"
There are no DEMONSTRATIONS to show that it is real, only videos.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tinman on April 25, 2016, 03:25:11 PM
Yes, I did. Where is the extended self looping?

Indeed ;)

Teslatic may not know the difference between surface charge and deep charge in a battery :D

Remove the circuit,and run the two lights straight from the two batteries hooked in parallel.
I bet the battery voltage dose the exact same thing--drains the surface charge of,then settles on a voltage that remains quite steady for some time driving those lights.


Brad
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on April 25, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
"And the "measurers" will scream....we cant measure it so it cant be real!!!!"
There are no DEMONSTRATIONS to show that it is real, only videos.

See? Here we have a measurer, already, screaming.

Well Sir, theres coming, a time when your instruments will not measure what is going on.
What will you scream then?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on April 25, 2016, 07:32:28 PM
There was no screaming. You can get medical help for your hallucinations.
If you can't measure it or even observe it, how can you know that it exists (outside your imagination)?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on April 26, 2016, 07:17:21 PM
There was no screaming. You can get medical help for your hallucinations.
If you can't measure it or even observe it, how can you know that it exists (outside your imagination)?

 Albert Einstein (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein) > Quotes (http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/9810.Albert_Einstein) >

  “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

Now, memoryman, use your memory and re.member what I told you previously about the 2 sided universe. I said DNA is dual, the I Ching is dual, the Mayan Calendar is dual, your brain is dual and reality, the Mind, has a daul partner, the Actuality: Matter, and the seen has an unseen half. Many overunity machines are dual halves of each other. I told you 3 + 4th dimensions need a dual 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th. You didnt pay attention. You are an expert in Matter and Physics measurements using your one sense, rationality and logic and I am expert in Metaphysics using my Intuition or Imagination. Actually I use both rationality and intuition but you say

"If you can't measure it or even observe it, how can you know that it exists (outside your imagination)?"

I know by all that Ive studied about 2...and I used my imagination to image the universe...thats how. Since you only use 1/2 of your brain, never considering imagination or intuition, I would say you are a half-wit. I suggest you argue with Einstein.

By the way, Einstein was a half-wit also. He said matter twists, warps and spindles space, when it is space, the superior force that twists, warps and spindles matter.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on April 26, 2016, 07:47:39 PM
Regardless of all that, can you DEMONSTRATE even ONE OU device?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on April 27, 2016, 01:13:57 AM
Regardless of all that, can you DEMONSTRATE even ONE OU device?

Define OU. I assume you are speaking about over unity.

Ive seen thousands of circuits, hundreds of perpetual motion machines, dozens of self running mechanisms and many, many claims with spurious evidence behnd it. I know that for something to be proof, fact or truth it must be attached to the only two absolutes that I know of, detailed elsewhere and nothing can be attached to them so all we know, speak and consider to be laws are relative, arbitrary, speculative opinion backed by will and weapon...but Ive never seen a over unity device, circuit or scheme that ran for a time.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: marathonman on April 27, 2016, 04:00:16 AM
I hate to comet on something i haven't followed but..... Meta you are very correct Einstein was a half-wit Paid by JP Morgan as was Heaviside  and Lorenz to hide free energy proof. even changed school books...... look it up. FACT.

Our Universe is a perpetual Motion Machine that will keep spinning when we are long gone so for a scientist to say it is not should be beheaded in public. FACT.

Sorry for imposing.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on April 27, 2016, 05:15:57 AM
"Our Universe is a perpetual Motion Machine that will keep spinning when we are long gone" but not perpetually.
Einstein was brilliant, but not perfect.
Since you claim to know that the proof of free energy was hidden, if you know about that proof, it is no longer hidden, so you can show it.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on April 28, 2016, 05:52:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHYHeDN0078


Well? 71 Amps? Discuss...   
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on April 28, 2016, 11:12:49 AM
How can anything be discussed when you are describing the set up while you're creating maximum noise at full power. We heard nothing.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 01, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
Here's a new test you can chew on, if you love to measure things......

Gerard Motor PROOF of RF.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU)


We might get a variety of answers.....


"The test is too simple"
"The measurer is too simple"
"He's using the wrong equipment" (Please describe the right equipment and your own tests)
"Its setup wrong" (Please describe the right setup and your own tests)
"The RF wand is not calibrated properly" (Describe how you would know that)
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 01, 2016, 11:20:53 PM
TK,

How can anything be discussed when you are describing the set up while you're creating maximum noise at full power. We heard nothing.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: memoryman on May 01, 2016, 11:25:09 PM
There is no 'we' in "We heard nothing." just you.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on May 02, 2016, 02:59:36 AM
Here's a new test you can chew on, if you love to measure things......

Gerard Motor PROOF of RF.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU)


We might get a variety of answers.....


"The test is too simple"
"The measurer is too simple"
"He's using the wrong equipment" (Please describe the right equipment and your own tests)
"Its setup wrong" (Please describe the right setup and your own tests)
"The RF wand is not calibrated properly" (Describe how you would know that)

And what were we supposed to learn from that little video?  It has been known for over 100 years you can create RF by using a spark gap.  That is how the earliest radio transmitters worked.  Yawn.  Time to go back to sleep and wait for some real information.  By the way he didn't actually measure anything.  He just showed there was some RF on the wire and foil.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: gyulasun on May 02, 2016, 11:43:25 AM
How can anything be discussed when you are describing the set up while you're creating maximum noise at full power. We heard nothing.

The problem is not what you are hearing in a noisy background but what you can see...  Just watch from video time 6:10 to 6:20 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHYHeDN0078 )  when he (rollindough) sets the range switch on the clamp-on meter from  AC voltage to AC Amper. 
When you wish to measure current with a clamp-on meter, one of the wires carrying the current should be placed into the jaws of the clamps, right?  See this picture I took from the video it shows the moment when he switches back from AC Amper to AC voltage after he read the 71.2 Amper:
you can clearly see there was no any wire between the clamps, the 71.2 Amper on the display was a bogus value. A clamp-on meter is designed to measure current in a wire  which is placed into the clamps by opening and closing the clamps.
By the way, which wire was supposed to carry the 71 Amper?  Any of his (rather thin) wires shown in his setup would have gone into smoke if current that high had indeed been a reality in that part of the circuit.

Gyula
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: pomodoro on May 02, 2016, 02:45:43 PM
Cold electricity! Thas why 71A can flow through tiny wires!

People, Morin is an imbecile. Don't be a cretin like him. He abuses the instruments by using them in ways they are not meant to be used. Nobody is immune to believing false OU prophets in their quest for the truth, but this guy is massively retarded and unless you are insanely stupid, please waste your time following another less idiotic saviour instead and leave this pathetic fool alone. Most other gurus are probably fake, but at least they give a good impression and leave you wanting to know more. This moron instead, screws up right from the start!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 01:08:07 AM
Cold electricity! Thas why 71A can flow through tiny wires!

People, Morin is an imbecile. Don't be a cretin like him. He abuses the instruments by using them in ways they are not meant to be used. Nobody is immune to believing false OU prophets in their quest for the truth, but this guy is massively retarded and unless you are insanely stupid, please waste your time following another less idiotic saviour instead and leave this pathetic fool alone. Most other gurus are probably fake, but at least they give a good impression and leave you wanting to know more. This moron instead, screws up right from the start!

You fail to prove your case or back up your accusations with any real data. You may be almost as moronic as Morin.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: pomodoro on May 03, 2016, 02:29:35 AM
You try finding REAL data from Morin.  He's like you, a pathological scientist, although the word scientist is being denigrated.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on May 03, 2016, 09:28:31 AM
You fail to prove your case or back up your accusations with any real data. You may be almost as moronic as Morin.

Maybe YOU would care to explain to us "almost morons" how you can get a valid reading of Current with a clampon meter that is connected for a Voltage reading and whose clamp is not clamped around _anything_.   
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on May 03, 2016, 09:35:55 AM
Here's a new test you can chew on, if you love to measure things......

Gerard Motor PROOF of RF.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXJdA4Y7CU)


We might get a variety of answers.....


"The test is too simple"
"The measurer is too simple"
"He's using the wrong equipment" (Please describe the right equipment and your own tests)
"Its setup wrong" (Please describe the right setup and your own tests)
"The RF wand is not calibrated properly" (Describe how you would know that)

How's this for an answer:

When Morin first started posting YT videos of his nonsense years ago, I commented to him that his setup was producing broadband RF noise that was interfering with his instrument readings and causing him to get his silly, invalid results. He of course denied it.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on May 03, 2016, 09:38:16 AM
TK,

Nobody else seems to be having trouble hearing the narration on that video. So instead of quoting yourself repeating your post to me, maybe you should try listening to the video again, with cleaner ears.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on May 03, 2016, 09:42:32 AM
Cold electricity! Thas why 71A can flow through tiny wires!

People, Morin is an imbecile. Don't be a cretin like him. He abuses the instruments by using them in ways they are not meant to be used. Nobody is immune to believing false OU prophets in their quest for the truth, but this guy is massively retarded and unless you are insanely stupid, please waste your time following another less idiotic saviour instead and leave this pathetic fool alone. Most other gurus are probably fake, but at least they give a good impression and leave you wanting to know more. This moron instead, screws up right from the start!

It's high comedy! We are just waiting for his next video of him sticking his fingers into his home mains distribution box, or measuring the temperature of the sky with his IR thermometer, or something else as silly.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Maybe YOU would care to explain to us "almost morons" how you can get a valid reading of Current with a clampon meter that is connected for a Voltage reading and whose clamp is not clamped around _anything_.

Fair point, if that's what happened. Morin is not the brightest among all of you here but I doubt he is that dumb... Perhaps you might want to produce the video with a minute count till you again observe him doing that specific thing. That would prove it for me otherwise Id say you mis-observed him.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 08:40:53 PM
How's this for an answer:

When Morin first started posting YT videos of his nonsense years ago, I commented to him that his setup was producing broadband RF noise that was interfering with his instrument readings and causing him to get his silly, invalid results. He of course denied it.

Doesnt your set ups produce broadband RF also? What's the difference between his set up and yours because you obviously tell us you know what it is.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 08:44:22 PM
Nobody else seems to be having trouble hearing the narration on that video. So instead of quoting yourself repeating your post to me, maybe you should try listening to the video again, with cleaner ears.

If that statement were correct there should be at least one person here who can repeat what you said on your in video, or will you claim you dont have the time or patience to babysit. Id like to hear what you have to say. literally.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 08:48:09 PM
It's high comedy! We are just waiting for his next video of him sticking his fingers into his home mains distribution box, or measuring the temperature of the sky with his IR thermometer, or something else as silly.

If Morin's IR meter is not for measuring the sky's temperature correctly then you know how you would do it correctly and/or the professional astronomers do it. Surely someone knows how to measure the temperature of deep space, dont you think so, because thats what you're claiming you can do?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 03, 2016, 08:52:07 PM
You try finding REAL data from Morin.  He's like you, a pathological scientist, although the word scientist is being denigrated.

Now you are claiming you are a Pathologist, versed in diagnosing pathology? Where did you go to school? Do you have a degree in Pathology? How many years study did you put in, for that diploma?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: citfta on May 03, 2016, 10:01:52 PM
If you go to a competent mechanic and tell him you can make your engine run smoother by changing the air in your tires he is going to know you don't know what you are talking about.  The silly babble that Gerard spouts off is just as ridiculous to those of us that have worked in electronics for years.  Only someone that is equally as ignorant as Gerard would believe anything he says.  I am not saying I know more about electronics than anyone else and probably not as much as a lot of electronic techs but I know enough to recognize silly babble when I hear it.  And I know enough to know how to properly use electronic test equipment which Gerard clearly does not know.  I am amazed he hasn't killed himself yet with his crazy ideas.

Carroll
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on May 03, 2016, 10:27:02 PM
Genius  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)


Complex device inducing spiral sinewave whiping electrons over the gate pushing electrons into the system wich charges up the system....etc like a watermill :o


Imagine if we put a little time and energy into this device to could power a house!
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 04, 2016, 01:01:09 AM
If you go to a competent mechanic and tell him you can make your engine run smoother by changing the air in your tires he is going to know you don't know what you are talking about.  The silly babble that Gerard spouts off is just as ridiculous to those of us that have worked in electronics for years.  Only someone that is equally as ignorant as Gerard would believe anything he says.  I am not saying I know more about electronics than anyone else and probably not as much as a lot of electronic techs but I know enough to recognize silly babble when I hear it.  And I know enough to know how to properly use electronic test equipment which Gerard clearly does not know.  I am amazed he hasn't killed himself yet with his crazy ideas.

Carroll

Another measurer making claims.....

OK give us one example of Morin's babble....just one is fine. Back up your claim with evidence....better yet show me where and what video you saw Morin babbling.

Also, I have to ask, do you recognize RF in Morin's machine?
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 04, 2016, 01:05:49 AM
Genius  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)


Complex device inducing spiral sinewave whiping electrons over the gate pushing electrons into the system wich charges up the system....etc like a watermill :o


Imagine if we put a little time and energy into this device to could power a house!

What gate? At 24:40? He's presumptuous. He should stick to maths.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: TinselKoala on May 04, 2016, 04:36:57 PM
I wasn't going to comment but you have made so many silly statements that I feel obligated.

Fair point, if that's what happened. Morin is not the brightest among all of you here but I doubt he is that dumb... Perhaps you might want to produce the video with a minute count till you again observe him doing that specific thing. That would prove it for me otherwise Id say you mis-observed him.
The issue has to do with the video where _someone_ claimed to measure 71 amps but had his DMM connected with probes to measure voltage and nothing in the jaws of the clamp. It's the video where you can't seem to hear what everybody else hears just fine. And it is the video where gyulasun posted the still frame on the previous page here: http://overunity.com/15277/generator-by-gerard-morin/msg482741/#msg482741
I think even you can probably see that there is nothing in the clamp, and if you actually bother to watch the video you can see that he has the probes connected to measure voltage and simply switches the switch to Amps and thinks he's getting a meaningful reading.

Doesnt your set ups produce broadband RF also? What's the difference between his set up and yours because you obviously tell us you know what it is.
Yes, I have setups that produce broadband RF  HV noise too. So? At least I know what I'm doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cv4XF4FV6w

If that statement were correct there should be at least one person here who can repeat what you said on your in video, or will you claim you dont have the time or pa
tience to babysit. Id like to hear what you have to say. literally.
The video you are talking about IS NOT MY VIDEO. And obviously other people hear what is being said just fine. MY videos may have shaky video or poor lighting but I don't think anyone has ever complained that MY narration is hard to hear.  Literally.

If Morin's IR meter is not for measuring the sky's temperature correctly then you know how you would do it correctly and/or the professional astronomers do it. Surely someone knows how to measure the temperature of deep space, dont you think so, because thats what you're claiming you can do?
Again you are missing the point or being deliberately obtuse. Morin has several videos where he uses a handheld IR thermometer with a laser aiming beam. He points it up and puts the laser on a pole pig up on its pole, and claims that the reading shows the temperature of the transformer. Because he thinks the laser is doing the temperature reading! But the laser and the IR sensor are separated by a few cm on the instrument, and the laser is aimed so that it is in the center of the spot covered by the IR sensor at a particular distance, usually about 30 cm. At the many meters distance of the pole pig up on its pole, the IR sensor is pointed at _the Canadian sky_ not at the transformer where the laser beam is striking. In another video his thermometer is obviously being affected by the RF HV he is generating and is giving all kinds of fluctuating readings, and he picks and chooses which number he wants, even though none of them are valid.

Now you are claiming you are a Pathologist, versed in diagnosing pathology? Where did you go to school? Do you have a degree in Pathology? How many years study did you put in, for that diploma?

I'll answer for pomodoro here: Pathological science is a term coined by Irving Langmuir, a _chemist_.
 
"Pathological science is an area of research where "people are tricked into false results ... by subjective effects, wishful thinking or threshold interactions." The term was first used by Irving Langmuir, Nobel Prize-winning chemist, during a 1953 colloquium at the Knolls Research Laboratory." from WIKI

It is a perfect description of what Morin is doing. Nobody is claiming to be a pathologist. But where Morin is concerned, perhaps "pathetic-ologist" is more appropriate, since he and his followers are truly pathetic.

As far as Morin's "babble" is concerned, pick any one of his videos for your "just one" example. I especially like the one where he's poking his fingers into his home distribution box, not looking at what he's doing,  while babbling about how the energy companies are tricking us. He is a fraction of an inch away from electrocuting himself.


Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: scratchrobot on May 04, 2016, 05:52:05 PM
As far as Morin's "babble" is concerned, pick any one of his videos for your "just one" example. I especially like the one where he's poking his fingers into his home distribution box, not looking at what he's doing,  while babbling about how the energy companies are tricking us. He is a fraction of an inch away from electrocuting himself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)
At 8:05 he asks Bob to stick his fingers between the wires.
Strange... i can watch this video over and over and never have the feeling that i wasted my time  ???
i wish Morin and Bob did some more video's together
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: Meta on May 04, 2016, 08:29:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydvic9aG5BE)
At 8:05 he asks Bob to stick his fingers between the wires.
Strange... i can watch this video over and over and never have the feeling that i wasted my time  ???
i wish Morin and Bob did some more video's together

On one video I did see Morin wave his fingers a bit too close to the power junction box, in his home but he was using just one hand, so I didnt jump too bad knowing he would just get knocked to the floor, on that close call. I dont think Morin has ever been jolted hard by junction box electricity...He doesnt have that "fear" in him yet...he may get some experience with all his hand waving.

On your video link, I just saw Morin and Bob working together and ol Bob is told to put his fingers between the wires coming out of Morin's "magic" pump and I realized Morin had done that before Bob did it so he knows Bob wont die with the alleged low 12v and alleged low amps BUT then Morin puts a clamp, not all the way around the wires(?) and the clamp is still opened...which shocked me....figuratively, and then Morin tells us its measuring 27-28 AMPS...which can kill Bob dead, and the voltage measured is now 125 and climbing to 185-190v.....and Bob just stuck his fingers into that? I agree, Morin is dangerous in that regard. That's the first time Ive seen him do that so I have to say, you have a valid claim.

However, regardless of the fun you're having laughing at Morin's mannerisms, he and Bob are recognizing they do have a unique phenomena in the "cold" plasma in the long tube. I'm thinking they just reproduced the same experiments that certain experimenters in the late 1800's did and named their energy, "Luciferian energy".....ie...the 4th state of matter....cold plasma.

Bob is highly intelligent....he is irritated with Morin's interpretations occasionally. Bob uses "dark matter" as his source of this energy.....I say dark matter is just another name for the plasma of space....this plasma operates and runs backward from our normal "hot electrons"...cold electrons (plasma) are spread out into one massless mass of cold spacial potential making space a superconductor, which should make Dave happy knowing this.....its the same potential I exploit in my MetaQEG after Beardens basic circuit design....its the same potential that all over-unity machines detect as cold flows of energy and it absorbs light  and hot electrons (the light we know of and emits cold blue light, possibly what we call orgone)...the process is called negentropy...that which is moving opposite to entropy (decay) ....Tesla used it.
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: tesletic on June 15, 2016, 11:50:30 PM
More then 4 months no video !? Does anybody know if he is still alive !? LOL ; )  ???
Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: emh_007 on June 21, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
I have a question for those who tried to replicate the setup, what is the specification of the DC motor, other than running @ 24VDC, and rotating at 4000rpm?  (Wattage?)

Some notes:
What is interesting to notice in Morin's setup, (small and full size one), is the generator itself.

If you search around, all generators are electro-magnetic, what this means:
1- They use coils to magnetise the iron cores
2- None of them use permanent magnet generators, except wind mill power generators.
3- Without the magnets, you don't get radiant energy manifestation.

This is everywhere (electro-magnet generators)... They teach us in school that electricity is generated from magnets, it is true, however not applied in the industry, with the exception of windmills.  Magnetising iron core uses power where as when you rotate a magnet, you don't need to magnetize the core, it is already magnetized (power saving).

Also, in the small form factor setup, the rotating magnet is a single pole (North-South) only, hence when rotating this thing, the frequency is increased... @1000rpm it is close to 40Hz, hence @4000rpm you do not have 60hz like the electricity on the grid.  Looking at the power equation P=W/t, where the frequency is the inverse of time t=1/f, hence increasing the frequency of the generator, increases the power generated.  Eric Dollard suggest reading Steinmetz regarding this topic, I bought few books, and could not find the appendix, anyone found this regarding doubling the frequncy and power?

I saw an argument on this blog, which says there is no power in pulses, this is a falacy.  When studying DSP techniques, when injecting a pulse in a system, this stimulates all frequencies.  Hence when using a spark gap; this is an electrical impulse...  This is a big puzzle, where you need to put the pieces together.

Reading Steinmetz on the electricity arc, He says that an electrical arc sucks all the energy around it.  This is hard to be proven, however I think we can see this manifestation in Morin's setup when the temperature of the system is reading abnormal temperatures.

Title: Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
Post by: emh_007 on June 21, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
I forgot to mention in the previous post regarding the frequency, and power measurements.

P = Watt/ time,

Where Watt is define as Plank per Second-Second...

P= Q/t^2

Hence when you double the frequency (or rotational speed in this case), you get 4 times the power... ;)