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Author Topic: Generator by Gerard Morin  (Read 148664 times)

synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2015, 09:14:33 PM »
Take his money, Tinman.

(and if you lower the induction hob's tank capacitor value slightly, to compensate for the increased self-capacitance of the TBC winding.... what do you see then?)

And we are still waiting for some credible reference that supports Synchro's claim about "what Tesla believed".

The problem with JLN's data is almost certainly in his measurement of the input power. You'll never see these people using a proper wideband integrating power meter.... which instruments exist _exactly because_ of the fact that measurement error with cheap consumer grade equipment is so common.

@Tinzelkooklawalla,

Why don't you offer to put some money up big shot? You never bothered to test and compare the different kinds of coils as I frequently urged you to with A.C. current, all you do is pulse D.C. and act like a know it all. Skycollection's running A.C. magnetic strength tests for the first time on this kind of coil right now.


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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2015, 09:33:45 PM »
But then again! Please tell me and I am asking everybody here  let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg
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Still waiting patiently !? LOL ;D 8)

btw.Great work is being done here by skycollection, perfect vortex strange phenomenons...must be a way to make a phone charger out of it !?  ::) (wonder where this Spanish fellow got the idea from ?  ;D )
https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2015, 11:10:20 PM »
@Tinzelkooklawalla,

Why don't you offer to put some money up big shot? You never bothered to test and compare the different kinds of coils as I frequently urged you to with A.C. current, all you do is pulse D.C. and act like a know it all. Skycollection's running A.C. magnetic strength tests for the first time on this kind of coil right now.

Well, STINKRO, you have misrepresented so many people's work, as well as mine, many times, and in addition you've demonstrated many times that you have no idea what you are talking about. And you follow the "false claimant" script to the letter: You cannot refute me with checkable credible outside references, or demonstrations of your own, so you stoop to childish insults instead.

You still have not provided any references for any of the things you've claimed, like what you claimed Tesla believed about his patented coilwinding, or for the use of the coil in commercial magnet systems like junkyard magnets, or anything else you've claimed. The tests you have asked for have indeed been performed MANY TIMES, with AC and DC. You would never accept anything I did anyway, so that is why I want Tinman to take your money.

I will bet one thing, though: You won't come through with your "any amount of money" bet once Tinman pwns you.

For your information, I have just _repeated_ the test I posted some time ago, testing the inductance of two coils, one ordinary solenoid and one TB wound, with the same amount of wire, using my ProsKit MT5210 inductance meter. This meter uses an AC signal to probe the device under test. The measured inductance of both coils is the same 43-44 microHenry.

Now grow up and learn how to provide references for your claims and to do your own demonstrations.

synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2015, 12:22:39 AM »
Well, STINKRO, you have misrepresented so many people's work, as well as mine, many times, and in addition you've demonstrated many times that you have no idea what you are talking about. And you follow the "false claimant" script to the letter: You cannot refute me with checkable credible outside references, or demonstrations of your own, so you stoop to childish insults instead.

You still have not provided any references for any of the things you've claimed, like what you claimed Tesla believed about his patented coilwinding, or for the use of the coil in commercial magnet systems like junkyard magnets, or anything else you've claimed. The tests you have asked for have indeed been performed MANY TIMES, with AC and DC. You would never accept anything I did anyway, so that is why I want Tinman to take your money.

I will bet one thing, though: You won't come through with your "any amount of money" bet once Tinman pwns you.

For your information, I have just _repeated_ the test I posted some time ago, testing the inductance of two coils, one ordinary solenoid and one TB wound, with the same amount of wire, using my ProsKit MT5210 inductance meter. This meter uses an AC signal to probe the device under test. The measured inductance of both coils is the same 43-44 microHenry.

Now grow up and learn how to provide references for your claims and to do your own demonstrations.

@Kooklaollie,

You constructed two adjacent coils for your bifilar test, one single wrap and the other series connected. You need to run the same amount of A.C. current through both coils and see how many iron filings each attracts then compare their weight.

Inductance is not magnetic field strength! It would take less time for you to run this simple A.C. magnetic field strength test then it did for you to compose your last lugubrious comment. Don't keep trying to pretend you already performed this test, or where is it? You got a hunch huh!

synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2015, 04:40:06 AM »
Electrical impedance
Adapted from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A graphical representation of the complex impedance plane.
Electrical impedance, or simply impedance, describes a measure of opposition to alternating current (AC). Electrical impedance extends the concept of resistance to AC circuits, describing not only the relative amplitudes of the voltage and current, but also the relative phases. When the circuit is driven with direct current (DC) there is no distinction between impedance and resistance; the latter can be thought of as impedance with zero phase angle.
The symbol for impedance is usually and it may be represented by writing its magnitude and phase in the form . However, complex number representation is more powerful for circuit analysis purposes. The term impedance was coined by Oliver Heaviside in July 1886. Arthur Kennelly was the first to represent impedance with complex numbers in 1893.
Impedance is defined as the frequency domain ratio of the voltage to the current. In other words, it is voltage–current ratio for a single complex exponential at a particular frequency ω. In general, impedance will be a complex number, but this complex number has the same units as resistance, for which the SI unit is the ohm. For a sinusoidal current or voltage input, the polar form of the complex impedance relates the amplitude and phase of the voltage and current. In particular,
• The magnitude of the complex impedance is the ratio of the voltage amplitude to the current amplitude.
• The phase of the complex impedance is the phase shift by which the current is ahead of the voltage.
The reciprocal of impedance is admittance (i.e., admittance is the current-to-voltage ratio, and it conventionally carries mho or Siemens units).
Complex

synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2015, 05:07:22 AM »
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synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2015, 05:08:02 AM »
@Tinselkoala,

You determined that both types of coils have very nearly the same Ohmic resistance in the wires.  When the circuit is driven with direct current (DC) there is no distinction between impedance and resistance. A.C. current on the other hand involves Impedance; Impedance is defined as the frequency domain ratio of the voltage to the current. Total A.C. impedance is the sum of the resistance and the ratio of the voltage to current.

The Tesla bifilar series coil has zero A.C. impedance at self resonate frequency. The single wire pancake coil can't play this trick!

The series bifilar coil will generate an A.C. magnetic field at self resonant frequency, right? What chance does the single wire coil have to compete with the series bifilar when it's stuck with it's original resistance plus the entire burden of the additional A.C. impedance? That's the sum of the Ohmic resistance plus the ratio of the A.C. voltage to current. The A.C. series bifilar electro magnet can produce a magnetic field in self resonance that is entirely free of the single wire's opposition force!   

The series bifilar needs to be wrapped so that it self resonates at 60 hertz to run off wall current and beat the single wire with a magnetic field that is more efficient then the single wire coil with it's burden of A.C. impedance.

Any size Tesla bifilar coil will generate a magnetic field more efficiently then a single wire coil if you have a signal generator that can match the A.C. current frequency to the self resonating frequency of the bifilar coil.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2015, 06:03:25 AM »
Look at this A.C. attraction motor design:

A stack of bifilar power coils will ring with A.C. input tailored to match the self resonating frequency of the coils. The magnetic field of the resonating bifilar power coil will be completely free of A.C. impedance. The zero impedance A.C. bifilar power coil is pulsed by the A.C. "Reed Switch" triggered by a small magnet on the ferrite rotor. Anyone should be able to understand how this type of bifilar resonating attraction motor would run more efficiently then a single wire power coil on A.C. current.

This attraction motor pulses A.C. power at the bifilar power coil's self resonating frequency. No power can flow when the circuit's broken. This is a very feeble sketch, but the theory's fully explained now. This is a "Lenz Free" motor design. The air core bifilar power coil would have zero Micro Henries in resonance, and the ferrite rotor would have zero drag with the "Reed Switch" set at TDC. This is not an extremely versatile motor, but the COP should be very close to 1 in resonance. Harvesting the BEMF may push the motor overunity!

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2015, 01:23:55 PM »
Stacked bifilar pancakes in series like Skycollection's won't ring. The bifilar pancake coils would need to be connected in parallel to resonate and act in unison as an A.C. electro magnet. Stacking these bifilars back to back, wired in parallel would behave the same way, pound for pound of copper, as just wrapping one bifilar pancake from thicker gauge wire. A solenoid air core bifilar of many windings would work even better.

Multiple coils connected in series resonance have infinite resistance while coils resonating in parallel have zero. Ampere's law determines the magnetic attraction force of the bifilar.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2015, 05:36:21 PM »
Marc Belanger demonstrates a looped Morin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1Wtve7aug

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2015, 07:11:29 PM »
If you consider that video proof of anything (except as an example of how NOT to measure..), then you must be enthralled with the numerous youtube videos that show 'proof' of OU.

synchro1

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2015, 12:23:39 AM »
If you consider that video proof of anything (except as an example of how NOT to measure..), then you must be enthralled with the numerous youtube videos that show 'proof' of OU.

@memoryman,

Everyone who offers proof of Overunity gets screened, scrutinized and treated to a scalding acid bath on this web site, Desinestien's no exception. We all welcome your critical insights, thank you!

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2015, 12:40:45 AM »
Marc Belanger demonstrates a looped Morin:...
Nice! He makes it pretty clear he has no intention of releasing it to us and is only interested in giving it to an oil company so they can shelve it. Can't say I'm a fan of that idea but good job none the less.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2015, 12:57:49 AM »
synchro1, everyone who makes a CLAIM gets challenged and scrutinised. I don't know your level of expertise in electricity; if it is high then I would expect you to recognise what Morin and Belanger are spouting as gibberish.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2015, 01:00:48 AM »
Synchro1, many times i did experiments with DC CURRENT passing from my multifilar pancake coil and i have zero inductance of one coil to another coil, i think if you connect in "PARALLEL" the pancake coils is the same result, my "multifilar pancake coils" only works with AC CURRENT....! there is no doubt...!