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Author Topic: Generator by Gerard Morin  (Read 148675 times)

tesletic

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2015, 04:31:22 PM »
FOOD FOR THOUGHT !
Hi my fellow seekers, I am surely not the brightest of the bunch here that's for sure ! LOL but never the less some of you out there might be inspired looking a bit further in to the rabbit hole !?
 
''Our'' GEGENE project is still not solved !? http://tesletic.com/
That's why I am still convinced there must be a way to put this amps to work so we can at lest achieve a self running device ! First example is done by my friend Igor but he still could not try it totally out because lack of a pure sine inverter ! Take a look at the video !? ???
https://youtu.be/IpAuvTBCugs

GEGENE OVER-UNITY proof or NOT !?
I would highly appreciate it if any of you can tell me what is wrong with these calculations !
https://youtu.be/abadWctCggE
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg

What I still do not get is that even the famous Jean Naudin concluded ,''If 1.0 KJ is produced by the grid (measured with the energy-meter on the grid plug), firstly if 2.5 KJ is produced by the generator and secondly if 1.0 KJ is used by the load at the output, there is 2.5 - 1.0 = 1.0 KJ available for re-injection at the input... So, we measure 1.0 KJ on the energy-meter on the grid plug and 2.5 KJ on the energy-meter at the input of the induction cooker after the GTI.'' BUT HE NEVER FINALIZED IT !!!????
http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/gegene13en.htm

Personally I did some tests and I will try instead of using an inverter using some good 220v pure sine generator driven by a DC-motor ! I know this consumes more than an inverter but with batteries you never know what is going with that kind of set up ! It works or it doesn't !
http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm

 Perhaps I am seeing it all but I will try or if anybody here wants to give it a try of course again very highly appreciated !  Best regards

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2015, 04:45:32 PM »
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2.5 - 1.0 = 1.0 KJ

What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)

tesletic

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2015, 11:18:54 PM »
What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)

If these calculations are right ?  :-\
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2015, 02:45:46 AM »
@citfta,

Nice to see you over here. Most meters would just read zero on the wrong scale. The fact that he's reading something indicates there my be a measurement. He should have placed it on the D.C. scale in the first place.

Hi Synchro,

Thanks for the welcome.  I will probably be spending a lot more time here now.  I have banned myself from the idiots on the Erroneous Forum.  I just finally had all I could take from people that insist on believing in fantasy and constantly harass anyone that doesn't agree with them.  I can understand the disagreement part but the constant harassment was making me as bitter as some of them.  It is not worth it.  So I guess I will hang out here for a while.

Placing the meter on the D.C. scale would have been a good idea but as has already been pointed out the meter doesn't even have that function. 

I am amazed at how many people insist they are discovering new territory when they don't even have any idea of what has already been discovered.  That just doesn't make sense to me.

Later,
Carroll

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2015, 03:05:49 AM »
What more do you really need to know?

(insert facepalm character here)
I meant this what JN was saying in his conclusions  '' a closed loop is possible here, the system can be disconnected from the grid (if the GTI is replaced by a pure sinus grid inverter). The system produces MORE than it consumes while it gives power for all the output loads and in addition it is able to charge a batterie.'' ?  :-\

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2015, 03:15:38 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_m7QGPIn2c

@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

TinselKoala

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2015, 04:01:08 AM »
I meant this what JN was saying in his conclusions  '' a closed loop is possible here, the system can be disconnected from the grid (if the GTI is replaced by a pure sinus grid inverter). The system produces MORE than it consumes while it gives power for all the output loads and in addition it is able to charge a batterie.'' ?  :-\

If you can subtract 1.0 from 2.5 and come up with 1.0 as your answer... then anything is possible. 

Jean-Louis has more "overunity" devices in his laboratory than even Akula or Ruslan have. Everything he investigates produces "overunity" in his laboratory.  Yet he still pays for his electricity, and has never made (or at least never demonstrated) anything that can "self loop" or run itself without outside source of power.

So... "Do the Math" ....

TinselKoala

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2015, 04:04:22 AM »
@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

As far as Chaniotakis is concerned... ask him why he cannot run two or three other induction hobs -- or even one --  from the "3.6 times the input" output of the first one. I love to see people's answers to that challenge.

tesletic

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2015, 09:46:06 AM »
Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

YES !  ::)
Although I agree with your skepticism because indeed numbers don't represent nothing but facts do !
But then again! Please tell me and I am asking everybody here  let me know what our French buddy did wrong or calculated wrong !?
https://youtu.be/So4QwOktDFg

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2015, 10:29:27 AM »
Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

As far as Chaniotakis is concerned... ask him why he cannot run two or three other induction hobs -- or even one --  from the "3.6 times the input" output of the first one. I love to see people's answers to that challenge.

@Tinsilly,

"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2015, 10:36:24 AM »
"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm
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Here you can find some interesting phenomenons that produce these bifilars wish coincidence or not I used in the same way on the GEGENE project !  ;D
https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw   

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2015, 12:13:16 PM »
@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2015, 06:04:53 PM »
I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.

@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2015, 07:58:59 PM »
@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.

Take his money, Tinman.

(and if you lower the induction hob's tank capacitor value slightly, to compensate for the increased self-capacitance of the TBC winding.... what do you see then?)

And we are still waiting for some credible reference that supports Synchro's claim about "what Tesla believed".

The problem with JLN's data is almost certainly in his measurement of the input power. You'll never see these people using a proper wideband integrating power meter.... which instruments exist _exactly because_ of the fact that measurement error with cheap consumer grade equipment is so common.