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Offline d3x0r

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Generator by Gerard Morin
« on: December 15, 2014, 10:34:16 AM »



Videos https://www.youtube.com


and someone did a replication?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEcGTU9Nyc 

Watched a few more videos; apparently it's a water pump for a front loader washing machine?  Just run backwards as a generator?  No modifications?
http://youtu.be/dEaSvtjoAMk?t=11m



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Generator by Gerard Morin
« on: December 15, 2014, 10:34:16 AM »

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 07:52:38 PM »
d3xOr
I see this attempted replication has issues ,do you feel Mr.Morin would help with a true replication ?
 

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 11:47:50 PM »
What's to replicate?

Morin is simply using some batteries to drive an ordinary DC motor, which is driving another ordinary motor, which produces commutator noise and an AC output of sorts. Then he's feeding this noisy AC output into a couple of transformers, and is amazed by the usual "cold electricity", that is spiky HV RF, that lights up his lamps and makes his meters go crazy in the ways that we (some of us anyway) have already experienced many times. He makes the usual false and unsupported claims from his observations which are stuffed into his "theory", and he attacks the people who use solid knowledge, facts and experience to criticise him, with the usual string of insults.  For example, he claims to have 400 kV happening in his apparatus, when the wiring insulation can't stand off more than 1 kV. He claims that his meters aren't affected by EMI, when they are beeping at him and producing wildly unstable readings, and his IR thermometer is reporting temperatures _below zero_ when pointed at devices that are clearly not below room temperature.

He makes many false claims and incorrect statements that betray his utter lack of measurement expertise and his totally theory-driven stance. Do you see any oscilloscope measurements in Morin's setup, or just the use of handheld DMMs and thermometers? No matter what his instruments and demonstrations might actually show, he will always interpret them in the light of his dearly held "theory" rather than allowing the observations to determine the actual truth. He issues fake "challenges" to experimenters, and when he is shown what 400kV actually looks like, or other demonstrations that explain what is happening in his apparatus, he just ignores it.

Have fun with your "replication", it is easy to do and you will discover just what he has discovered but won't admit: there is nothing of value in what he is doing.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 01:17:32 AM »
What's to replicate?

Morin is simply using some batteries to drive an ordinary DC motor, which is driving another ordinary motor, which produces commutator noise and an AC output of sorts. Then he's feeding this noisy AC output into a couple of transformers, and is amazed by the usual "cold electricity", that is spiky HV RF, that lights up his lamps and makes his meters go crazy in the ways that we (some of us anyway) have already experienced many times. He makes the usual false and unsupported claims from his observations which are stuffed into his "theory", and he attacks the people who use solid knowledge, facts and experience to criticise him, with the usual string of insults.  For example, he claims to have 400 kV happening in his apparatus, when the wiring insulation can't stand off more than 1 kV. He claims that his meters aren't affected by EMI, when they are beeping at him and producing wildly unstable readings, and his IR thermometer is reporting temperatures _below zero_ when pointed at devices that are clearly not below room temperature.

He makes many false claims and incorrect statements that betray his utter lack of measurement expertise and his totally theory-driven stance. Do you see any oscilloscope measurements in Morin's setup, or just the use of handheld DMMs and thermometers? No matter what his instruments and demonstrations might actually show, he will always interpret them in the light of his dearly held "theory" rather than allowing the observations to determine the actual truth. He issues fake "challenges" to experimenters, and when he is shown what 400kV actually looks like, or other demonstrations that explain what is happening in his apparatus, he just ignores it.

Have fun with your "replication", it is easy to do and you will discover just what he has discovered but won't admit: there is nothing of value in what he is doing.
Ya; Liked the defense mechanism when explained about the meter's false reaction to HF voltage... he called YOU Kid  *LOL* :)  and don't you know you shouldn't shop at he dollar store for your meters?   



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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 02:01:56 AM »
He just needs to loop it, if he can.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 03:37:22 AM »
He just needs to loop it, if he can.
Don't you think he would have, if he could? Of course he cannot, and the energy efficiency, from input from the batteries to output at the lights and other loads, is actually quite low. Peak power is not energy, pulsed voltage is not energy, and one simply cannot measure this kind of circuit properly with DMMs, without heavy filtering! Especially when they are beeping at you, complaining about all the EMI!

The same phenomenon has fooled many people with many different devices and circuits. Peak power is not energy, voltage multiplication is not energy multiplication. One needs something a bit more sophisticated than a kill-a-watt meter and a clampon DMM to measure, accurately, peak and average output power levels in a system with lots of "hash" (RF noise, high frequency/high voltage, "cold" or "radiant" electricity). The reason you don't see claimants using these proper methods and instruments is obvious to me: it's because proper measurements don't support the claims of overunity, free energy or enhanced efficiency. So they "must be wrong" and the claimant will fall back to the kill-a-watt meters and DMMs in attempts to support his claims. Sterling surely knows better, by now, but he seems to enjoy the controversy and the traffic that false claimants bring to his site.




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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2014, 01:16:10 AM »
I found one of the washer pumps its really cool the water runs around the magnet.
The spinning magnet actually pumps the water.
This is the setup, at least in the one I found.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 12:53:39 AM »
I found one of the washer pumps its really cool the water runs around the magnet.
The spinning magnet actually pumps the water.
This is the setup, at least in the one I found.

I don't think so - the pic you show is the basics of a Synchronous motor (see: http://www.johnsonelectric.com/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation). Most of the drain pump motors I have seen appear to be Synchronous motors (as opposed to Universal or Shaded pole). The shaft end has a plastic paddle on it that moves the water.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2015, 04:32:05 AM »
I guess there are still plenty of people out there willing to throw time, money, and effort into the fire. If all one is going to do is replicate garbage chasing dreams of overunity, one will surely fail at every attempt.  If you really want to get anywhere at all, you need to stop chasing the rat in circles and start experimenting specifically for the knowledge.  Without knowledge and experience, you're never going to achieve anything.  I figured out very quickly that if I don't understand how something works in it's entirety, I'll have absolutely no hope of making any sort of progress in any direction.
From what I gather about this Morin fella... he's headed nowhere fast, with his "invention" or "discovery" or whatever one wants to call it.  If you'd like to follow him, there's no one that's going to stop you, but I would actually listen to TK and find something else to do, something you might actually learn something from that isn't a complete waste of effort and money. 

Remember that one guy who thought he had something a while ago...something with a BATTERY and a MOTOR and a couple LIGHT BULBS..?? 

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 12:20:50 PM »
I guess there are still plenty of people out there willing to throw time, money, and effort into the fire. If all one is going to do is replicate garbage chasing dreams of overunity, one will surely fail at every attempt.  If you really want to get anywhere at all, you need to stop chasing the rat in circles and start experimenting specifically for the knowledge.  Without knowledge and experience, you're never going to achieve anything.  I figured out very quickly that if I don't understand how something works in it's entirety, I'll have absolutely no hope of making any sort of progress in any direction.
From what I gather about this Morin fella... he's headed nowhere fast, with his "invention" or "discovery" or whatever one wants to call it.  If you'd like to follow him, there's no one that's going to stop you, but I would actually listen to TK and find something else to do, something you might actually learn something from that isn't a complete waste of effort and money. 

Remember that one guy who thought he had something a while ago...something with a BATTERY and a MOTOR and a couple LIGHT BULBS..??

The difference between Gerald Morin and many other experimenters is that he has had a Eureka moment in public, whereas most of us who have experimented for years, kept ours private. Its not nice to be told we have got it wrong and eventually realise our error, especially when told in the public domain. Having said this, I rather admire Gerald for his enthusiasm and willingness to share his learning experience on the fora. What I do object to is the rudeness that often accompanies those 'you've got it wrong' type posts, often from more experienced experimenters.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2015, 02:36:20 PM »
Morin is not learning from his experiences, though. He is convinced he is right from the beginning and there is nothing that will shake that conviction. And as far as being insulting goes... he is full of disrespect and insults for his critics who try to inform him of his errors and safety issues. In fact it's a real miracle that he hasn't electrocuted himself already. Take a look at that one video where he's poking his fingers around inside his home's distribution panel-- live-- without even looking at what he's doing. He's just a centimeter away from killing himself, live on camera.

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2015, 03:16:46 PM »
Morin is not learning from his experiences, though. He is convinced he is right from the beginning and there is nothing that will shake that conviction. And as far as being insulting goes... he is full of disrespect and insults for his critics who try to inform him of his errors and safety issues. In fact it's a real miracle that he hasn't electrocuted himself already. Take a look at that one video where he's poking his fingers around inside his home's distribution panel-- live-- without even looking at what he's doing. He's just a centimeter away from killing himself, live on camera.

Yes, he has much to learn in the field of electrics / electronics.


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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2015, 05:53:10 PM »
A true experimenter should be open to all criticism.  After all, part of the process of proving a theory is correct is attempting to disprove it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2015, 09:07:37 PM »
Yes, he has much to learn in the field of electrics / electronics.
LOL Sorry but I think it is the other way around !?  ;D We have to learn as this has nothing to do with electronics or conventional electrics as we know it !? It is RADIANT or whatever you wanna call it !

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Re: Generator by Gerard Morin
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 04:54:38 PM »
Gerard knows nothing worthwhile about 'radiant energy' either. He confuses many basic definitions.
As someone who has >50 of hands-on experience with electricity, electronics and other disciplines, I still am astounded how much others, such as TK and the late (and highly respected) Mark E. have to teach me.

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