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Author Topic: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator  (Read 3948 times)

Offline MagnaProp

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2017, 07:58:29 AM »
Sorry to say the Indiegogo project says closed. On the plus side, the one from TKLabs looks promising. Its vertical flag hints at possible anti-gravity effects.

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Offline e2matrix

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2017, 07:55:33 PM »
They say they are ready to deliver but it takes 20 or more days to deliver.   Sounds contradictory and wouldn't touch their payment method with a 10 foot pole.   


Offline barracj

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Re: "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2017, 12:53:16 AM »
I sent $3000 to Daniel for a generator and got nothing.  Before I sent my money he would Skype with me and show me his shop and even the insides of a generator.  But after I sent my money nothing but silence.  Vaporware!  Don't send him your money!

Offline Void

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2017, 08:22:31 PM »
The following will probably be pretty obvious to people who have some degree of experience with the free energy scene already,
but anyway here are some words of caution for newcomers on these kinds of 'order over the internet free energy generators'
and similar devices:

1) If they are selling these 'free energy generators' over the internet, sight unseen, chances are extremely high right off the bat it is a scam even without any details about the company being known. Assume it is most probably a scam unless a very thorough investigation seems to indicate otherwise. Even then be extremely cautious before agreeing to pay any money, and make sure you have a viable option for getting your money back if the deal falls through.

2) A very big warning sign for these internet free energy generator sellers is the selling of indivudual units from a website. A true free energy generator would be a major earth shaking scientific breakthrough, and if it is legitimate the inventor should be able to sell their technology to a government or technology corporation etc. for millions of dollars. Why would they charge small potatoes and sell individual units one at a time to people over the internet, where the customers could then potentially reverse engineer the generator and then people could start making their own once the 'secret' is out, etc.?

3) Make sure the company at the very least has a verifiable address and contact info. If they are located in less developed countries, then understand that if you send them money you may never hear back from them again, and there may be nothing much you can do about it. 

4) Knowing the above, if you are still hell bent on taking a major risk and odering from an online 'free energy generator' seller due to some very convincing looking videos or sales pitches or whatever, if they accept PayPal then you may have some chance of recovering your payment within a certain time span if you don't receive what you paid for. Check with PayPal first before sending any money to make sure you understand first what the exact conditions are for getting your money back. If the seller is asking for a direct electronic bank transfer for payment or are asking for payment by Western Union or similar, then you will likely have no options available to get your money back if you are scammed. These types of direct payment methods are typically used by scammers. Another option to look at is to use an escrow payment service such as escrow.com, but check out the escrow service thoroughly first to make sure they are legit and have a good reputation. I mentioned escrow.com as an example, but I don't know what kind of reputation they have or how long they have been around. An escrow service charges a fee for using their service. If the seller will not accept PayPal or the use of an internet escrow service, and instead will only take direct bank transfer payments or Western Union, then that is a very big warning sign.

5) If you order a 'free energy generator' of any kind from another country, understand that even if the generator is legit it could get stopped at the border if it is inspected and doesn't have proper safety/emissions certification for your region, such as having UL certification or equivalent. Chances are that any 'free energy generators' sold from internet sites like this will not have any sort of proper safety/emissions testing certification, even if they claim it has been certified in some way. A seller should have had their units tested by one or more recognized accredited testing labs and should have no problems telling you which specific testing labs tested their units, and should be able to give you certification numbers or similar and contact info so you can contact the testing labs directly to confirm whether the equipment was really tested by them. Also, just because an electric/electronic device of some type was tested and certified by an accredited safety/emissions testing lab, this is not certification that the device works as claimed. It is just certification that it passes safety and emissions testing requirements as tested for by a given lab. Testing by a lab to confirm that a device is really over unity is another matter altogether.

I have listed just some of the things a person probably wants to watch out for, but there are probably various other warning signs and other things to watch out for as well. Basically odering something like this over the internet is very high risk at the best of times. If you are very lucky you may possibly eventually receive a 'unit' of some sort, and when you try it out it may not work. The seller may then make various excuses of why it doesn't work, such as you must live in an area where the magnetic field or aether is too weak, or the muons are blocked in your area, or whatever, and then you may be stuck with a piece of junk and still have no way to get your money back. Even under the best of conditions chances are very slim to none of getting an actual working free energy device by ordering over the internet from some small unknown seller or company. To date, I don't know of one single confirmed legitimate free energy generator or similar that has ever been available for sale.

« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 11:22:01 PM by Void »


 

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