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sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #855 on: January 30, 2015, 02:37:09 AM »
It is truly sad that
..you can't own up to what you said?  Yes.

Again either you agree that it's ok to make light of ADHD sufferers or it's not.  If it is, is it because you think they aren't suffering or because you think it's ok to make fun of people who are suffering in general.

Again let me know when you are willing to man up....or hey just keep on squirming and deflecting.  That's not un-funny. :)

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #856 on: January 30, 2015, 05:30:14 AM »
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I guess Joel will never admit he was wrong about the show Moonshiners.

He claimed it was 100% real, I proved that it is a docudrama and not real.  It is indeed off-topic but He brought it up in one of his nonsensical rants.  Maybe one day he will be right about something?

lol oh bill bill bill. 100% facts just because you read wikipedia a public encyclopedia where anyone can write the definitions. Lol

Is this how you do science?

That is 100% inaccurate to imply that you are 100% by referencing to wikipedia...that funny to be honest. Lol I really laughed to your 100% facts...lol

Would it not be better to take 2 weeks vacation from your job, or if retired, go the town they are shooting the TV “DOCUDRAMA” and see for yourself rather than using wikipedia as a 100% FACTS! Lol

How blind can you be? That show is the same as “streetoutlaws” TV show. Go watch “streetoutlaws” and tell me if it's also a “docudrama”?

The main point is that a lot of people can't see things from different angles and that's how a lot of them are blinded by the TRUTH! Like the ULTIMATE TRUTH is that:

1- they are breaking the laws!
2- there is a LAW that the TV producers get away with a lot of things.
3- I'm pretty sure there is a 4rth law and more they are breaking but I'm not a lawyer.

Hollywood/TV media needs more REGULATING cause they are sending the wrong message! "16 and pregnant", "jackass" TV shows to add more to the list!

Is '16 and pregnant' or 'jackass' not real people in real life, or just actors? = "docudrama". Is 'docudrama' even a real word? I want to speak to the person whom came up with that word lol...easy! Tell me who came up with that word?

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #857 on: January 30, 2015, 07:13:38 AM »
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You're changing the subject again (#24).  What I was saying is that given that most of my family are not native English speakers and many of the people in my workplace aren't native speakers and that I've traveled a fair bit and that I've studied linguistics.  Your particular problems with English seem to be affectations

Well you are 'affectationing' regarding understanding viruses. I know I struggle to transfer my thoughts to paper. I don't speak the way I write because most of the speaking my thoughts do.

I understand there is a communication barrier but i'm not here trying to take advantage of people. I have never taken advantage off people since I was born!

I just want to help because that is life purpose!

Main point it is all a language barrier coming from me more than anything else.

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Wrong. You clearly said that I was changing the subject and because of that you deluded yourself into thinking I have ADD (which I'm going to use the more modern name ADHD from now on). 

To be honest I have a hard time focusing on one thing myself. After thinking deeply, the ROOTS are just distractions plain and simple.

My cure is to not ever read a commercial ever again! That's my cure! No pills no therapy at all.

So then how do I get rid of commercials? There are ways!

Then how do I tell my relatives what causes ADD! Not very easy!

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I'm sure humanity will benefit.  For example you are very amusing to talk to.  That benefits humanity - it makes them happy.  With a success rate much higher than you have had at curing ADHD.  So apparently I'm winning at benefiting humanity through this conversation.

To be honest, you have this mental power that is stubborn! I'm kinda being more entertained by you and forgetting about the path of truth! I'm responding to you more FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES rather than trying to seek the truth! Seriously.

I already know how to avoid the flu virus strain!

I already know how STD's can be avoided!

I already 100% sure that toilet seats transfer viruses just the same as a TV remote control from IGNORANT PEOPLE!

I 100% sure know that KNOWLEDGE is the CURE!

NO! pill can cure viruses, since we are a virus ourselves if you think about it!

Blah blah blah!

I know we are both getting amused, but the ULTIMATE GOAL is not just AMUZEMENT! We to need to laugh here and there to balance our needs but at the end of the day we need “EVOLUTION” and KNOWLEDGE.

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Again the evidence says: "No".  If what you assume is correct the expectation you would see a correlation between TVs per capita and ADHD diagnosis.  No such correlation exists.  So the correct thing to do is to treat your hypothesis as if it is stupid.

Can I take a look at your statistics? 0.0

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The first line treatment for ADHD is psychosocial counselling   When that fails or in extreme cases pharmacological measures are attempted.  There are two major classes of drugs and the most common one is stimulants.  Which helps in ~70% of cases.

Well i'm here telling you 100% sure that ADD is caused by DISTRACTIONS! = TV commercials, followed by lack of communicating skills, bullying and the ladder goes on. The main culprit right now is TV the second most is bullying! Which both are more psychological than genetic!

A pill CANNOT FIX the psychological aspects of things, only by using reverse psychology can = no PILLS!

Hear me think, do you fix a pill with a pill? Or do you use your brain to make one?

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So here is where you should just stand up and say: "Ok I give, I'm just trolling" because it's exceptionally hard to believe a person would be as thick as you are being.  In the off chance you're serious it's worth mentioning that the reason you should apologize is because you are making light of people who suffer from a real disease.

Well I'm suffering of BEING ABLE TO SEE TRUTH and these people are hard to convince! I don't want money because LEARNING is what gives me pleasures!

As a matter of fact, I can go and move on to another project and forget about ADD!

I'm not here in this world to just bully people, i'm here to learn and enjoy it! That's me, I enjoy learning things but then I have more morals than a psychopath does! So when I STUMBLE on a solution, I don't want ANYTHING BUT ONLY TO SHOW THEM THE TRUTH!

As a matter of fact, I don't care if ADD gets cured! I know it won't because of the TV ads. Hey if yuou have insurance to cover for the everyday pills and can stand for the pill symptoms, go ahead if it gets you cures.

I believe in medicines, I just don't believe in corruption.

I'm very confident that ADD can be cured with out pills! 100! it's all behavioral learning!

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Another good reason to think you're stupid.

If I'm so stupid, tell me what drugs cure ADD?

Lets step a little doing the “evolutionary” ladder and explein to me how ADD is created, replicated, reproduced, came to be?

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Trust me, very few wish you to be the way you are.

Well I wished I was like you? How can I be like you? Lol can I ripp of your face and implant it in mine?

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I have no trouble not watching commercial tv or listening to commercial radio.  If you're still on that this is caused by TV/radio commercials.  Perhaps you're just not very smart?

Nice! Scientific research! Lol r you serious, you believe because you have been posting here for sooooo long you are not a troll that just SNEAKED IN! Lol

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Either you didn't understand what I wrote or you don't understand what that idiom means.  Let me know which one it is.

I keep on hearing from you “let me show “my buddies” your stupid answers” = ass kisser...i already know your a stupid ass and have not said anything to my buddies to support that because I already know that..lol

stand up for yourself ! Lol or do you need to dress as a clown to entertain your buddies? Bozo the clown! Lol I don't even know what your point is!

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Think for once in your virtually useless life.   You can't stay on one topic, you have no idea how to phrase and support an argument, you use terribly ambiguous phrasing and you absolutely refuse to change how you say things or do the tiniest amount of work to phrase things better. What's left but to make fun of you?

You can tell your buddies all you want! But I already know how prostitution works! You are prostituting your ideas to get a sense of INTELLINECE! That is not how you get intelligent! When you say something like that mostly means that you have a sense to be acceptance in the SOCIAL circle of SOCIALISM! I mean any therapist should be able to know this!

You are not hard to figure out broh!

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Absolutely however you're simply not one of those greater minds.

My mind can kick your minds butt any day. Lol lets show FACTS!

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I didn't say that but now that you bring it up it's not entirely unplausible.

Yes you did! Here are the facts CHINGA TU PINCHE PUTA MADRE CARA DE RATA CHUPAS LONGANISA! I'm hispanic broh! Lol do you need more facts pendejito?

It is plausible but I'm giving you 100% facts! so your confused brain can understand lol is not like it is hard to prove i'm not him! YAWN!

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Yawn change of subject #25.  Now all of a sudden we are talking ONLY AND EVER about coughing directly on someone? LOL

Are you even seeing this as a off topic!
How stupid can you be when the flu virus makes the human body COUGH to spread it's sperm! Or take their kids to Disney land!? Lol

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Your change of subject aside (#26) what I was saying is entirely different.  You are responsible to research your position to the point that you can participate in a discussion.  So far you are not only not there but you also actively resist using terms properly.

You are now just went out of topic yet again.

Why can't you focus on the main POINT?

You are chopping my sentences left and right like killing a chicken for dinner!

So I am diagnosing you with ADD! Go take some pills guy lol

I'm just having fun here responding to you. There is no SCIENTIFIC research going on at all! Lol

You are expressing the symptoms of an ADD person. = unable to focus on the ULTIMATE GOAL.

For whatever reason, maybe your buddies are laughing at you and not with you, you seem to just BELIEVE that if your 'buddies' are laughing, you are correct! Well sir that is just being a bully!

You have ZERO! Understanding of how life works, I just think you need someone to wake you up from your dream. Lol

If you really want to compare brain sizes:

-tell me how dishwashers work? (which should be able to tell you how to fix them)

-tell me how HVAC systems work? (“)

-tell me how computers work? (“)

-tell me how gas engines work? (“)

-tell me how relationships work? (“)

-tell me how alcohol in a hu8man body works? (“)

-tell me how to cure ADD? (“)

-tell me how the flu virus works? (“)

-tell me how viruses spread around? (“)

yar yara....the next time I read your responses I expect for you to explain my questions more than 50% with OUT any half assed answers.  8)

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #858 on: January 30, 2015, 04:48:17 PM »
Well you are 'affectationing' regarding understanding viruses.
a) No. b) Again if there's a real communication barrier.  How do you know what an "affectation" is?  If you don't - why are you using it (in an entirely unused inflection).  If you looked it up why didn't look up "strand" or "born" or the other words that you use incorrectly?
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I know I struggle to transfer my thoughts to paper.
but you use words like "affectation"? or you think it's a good idea to use words like "affectation"?
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Main point it is all a language barrier coming from me more than anything else.
I have no doubt it's coming from you it just looks like an affectation. :)
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To be honest I have a hard time focusing on one thing myself.
and a) You think yourself qualified to diagnose ADHD and b) blame 23 changes of topic on me.
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After thinking deeply, the ROOTS are just distractions plain and simple.
Well good that saves us days of trying to get you pick a better word.
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My cure is to not ever read a commercial ever again! That's my cure! No pills no therapy at all.
Which makes no sense not because it's hard but because you would expect what you call a dose/response relationship.  That is you would expect some level of tolerance.  As someone who receives such a low dose of commercials that I didn't even know that the superbowl was this weekend until someone asked me.  If I had ADD because of commercials then I would certainly be cured by now.     
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Then how do I tell my relatives what causes ADD! Not very easy!
Actually what you first need to do is cure a number of people.
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To be honest, you have this mental power that is stubborn!
In case nobody told you this.  If people don't believe you it isn't necessarily because they are stubborn.  It's often because you think your opinion is better than theirs and you expect them to believe you MAINLY BECAUSE YOU SAID IT!. ::)
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I'm kinda being more entertained by you and forgetting about the path of truth! I'm responding to you more FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES rather than trying to seek the truth! Seriously.
Last post you said you were only speaking to help others.   Which one are you lying about? :) :)
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I already 100% sure
Another reason you're an idiot.
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I 100% sure know that KNOWLEDGE is the CURE!
Someone who is 100% sure is someone who can never be convinced that they are wrong.  However that is only possible through ego and arrogance.  Funny how you think other people have problems with that but not yourself :) :) :)
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NO! pill can cure viruses
If you mean "No pill can cure viruses" and if by "cure" you mean stop the spread to the point that a person is asymptomatic.  Then you're already wrong.  We already have antiviral drugs that do this.  However you'll probably make up some other definition of "cure" that makes no sense and is inconsistent with even your own ideas but like I said.  I find you funny.  So please keep performing for me.
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since we are a virus ourselves if you think about it!
Too many logical fallacies to list in that clause.
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but at the end of the day we need “EVOLUTION” and KNOWLEDGE.
I don't.  Evidence suggests that you have nothing useful to say.  Hence the only thing I need from you is a good story to tell people.  That makes them happy.  Which is all you are good for right now. :)
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Can I take a look at your statistics? 0.0
Google "tvs per capita" and "adhd diagnosis by year"
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Well i'm here telling you 100% sure
I'm not sure if your friends have told you this but your "100% sure" means nothing to anybody with a brain.  Nobody rational cares about your confidence especially if you give it out so freely.
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that ADD is caused by DISTRACTIONS! = TV commercials, followed by lack of communicating skills, bullying and the ladder goes on. The main culprit right now is TV the second most is bullying!
Ok, seriously just admit you're trolling.  Just say "I joel am a troll" because this makes even less sense.  Especially since you were 100% sure - just a few posts ago that ADHD is caused by TV commercials (and radio commercials).
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A pill CANNOT FIX the psychological aspects of things
Yawn.  It depends on what you mean by psychological.  An SSRI can preserve a more neurotypical level of external serotonin in people who normally would have a lower level.  A lower than normal level could MANIFEST as behaviors that someone like you would call "psychological".  Hence you are wrong. :) :) :) :)
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Well I'm suffering of BEING ABLE TO SEE TRUTH and these people are hard to convince!
LOL - Sorry you can't be serious. :)
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I don't want money because LEARNING is what gives me pleasures!
I think you mean validating your own ego driven ideas is what makes you happy.
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As a matter of fact, I can go and move on to another project and forget about ADD!
Please don't.  This is so entertaining.
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I'm not here in this world to just bully people
Doesn't that mean you're causing ADHD?  Because you said you think it's caused by bullying.  Right?
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when I STUMBLE on a solution, I don't want ANYTHING BUT ONLY TO SHOW THEM THE TRUTH!
But have no desire to actually VALIDATE your solution.  That's a big part of what science is and knowing how to.  Read Karl Popper sometime.
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I know it won't because of the TV ads.
Even though I have almost zero exposure to TV advertisements.  I'm somehow not cured from an illness you imagine me to have. :) :) :) :)
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I'm very confident that ADD can be cured with out pills!
I already told you that first line for ADHD is psychosocial counseling.  Pharmacological treatments are only recommended in extreme cases or cases where counseling is not helping.
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If I'm so stupid, tell me what drugs cure ADD?
You're stupid because you're confident. :)  It's easy to be confident in things you think are correct.  It takes REAL brainpower to be not confident about those things.  Which is why I doubt you will ever be able to do what I can do.
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Well I wished I was like you?
You're just an arrogant ass and I'm sure few people wish that people they know are that. :) :) :)
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Nice! Scientific research!
It's true.  I have not had commercial television in my home for over a decade.  I don't listen to the radio but both growing up and in my home I listen to news radio which has no commercials.  I keep an ad blocker on my laptop.  I frequently don't understand memes that are based on commercials.  My commercial exposure must be in the lower 1%.
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I keep on hearing from you
Exaggeration.  It's had been said exactly once when you made your comment.
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“let me show “my buddies” your stupid answers” = ass kisser
An "ass kisser" in English is someone who attempts to curry favor.  I'm just making people happy.
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do you need to dress as a clown to entertain your buddies?
You're the one who dressed yourself as a clown.  I'm just spreading the happiness around. :)
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I already know how prostitution works! You are prostituting your ideas to get a sense of INTELLINECE! That is not how you get intelligent! When you say something like that mostly means that you have a sense to be acceptance in the SOCIAL circle of SOCIALISM! I mean any therapist should be able to know this!
*clap* *clap* *clap* That was awesome.  Can you say more things like that.  It's got the right combination of crazy and ranting.
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My mind can kick your minds butt any day. Lol lets show FACTS!
Ok you keep making these challenges.  Please just say you'll accept any intellectual challenge from me and we can get started.
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Yes you did!
Nope.  Sorry you're not in a position to argue English syntax. :)
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It is plausible but I'm giving you 100% facts!
Another good reason to think you're stupid. :)
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Are you even seeing this as a off topic!
Because coughing directly on someone isn't the only vector of infection and probably isn't the most likely one. :)
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You are now just went out of topic yet again.
Nope.  This was addressing your refusing to use words in an unambiguous way.  You are responsible to bring your level of knowledge to the point that you can discuss things.  It's not everyone else's job to guess what a virologist would say when you say "born". :) :) :)
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Why can't you focus on the main POINT?
I'm focusing on whatever you post - trying to address your issues.  That's what a polite person would do.  Perhaps you should change what you post?
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You are chopping my sentences left and
Only when it's funny. :)
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So I am diagnosing you with ADD!
The point is that a) You are not qualified. b) Your criteria makes no sense at all and c) Your diagnosis makes your argument that advertisements cause ADHD weaker. :) :) :) :)
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You are expressing the symptoms of an ADD person. = unable to focus on the ULTIMATE GOAL.
Nope.  I'm just responding to what you post.  So I can not be expressing anything but a reflection of yourself. :)
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For whatever reason, maybe your buddies are laughing at you and not with you
I'm pretty certain they're laughing at you and others like you.  Some actually say words like "Do you have any new stories of crazy people on the internet.". 
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you seem to just BELIEVE that if your 'buddies' are laughing, you are correct!
Nope.  I think I'm correct because of the research I have read.  My buddies are laughing because you are funny.
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Well sir that is just being a bully!
"well sir" - I believe I've mentioned you have too many odd affectations right? and no it's not being a bully.  A bully is someone who tries to get someone to do something.  Telling my friends funny stories about you (and Cap-Mo-ron and SeaMonkey and profitis...etc) doesn't force you to do anything...and if it's not bullying you...then who is it bullying?
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If you really want to compare brain sizes:
I do but you said you could beat me at ANY intellectual exercise.  So why don't I get to pick and you have to beat me?  That would really show me you're smarter.  Right?
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I expect for you to explain my questions
Get used to disappointment...and questions aren't "explained" they are "answered".  Funny mistake to make. :)

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #859 on: January 30, 2015, 05:15:09 PM »
Does this paid dooshbag shill think anyone actually reads this porridge...other than his arse kisser, that is ?

What a joke.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #860 on: January 30, 2015, 09:44:45 PM »
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Again either you agree that it's ok to make light of ADHD sufferers or it's not.  If it is, is it because you think they aren't suffering or because you think it's ok to make fun of people who are suffering in general.

Again let me know when you are willing to man up....or hey just keep on squirming and deflecting.  That's not un-funny. :)

It would be very helpful to your emotional state to
actually perform research on the contrived 'diseases'
ADD and ADHD.  Any 'suffering' which might take place
is brought on by the Medical Establishment and the
Institutions of Alleged Learning where a regime of
'forced medication' is in place.

Most legitimate Medical Authorities (those not in the
pockets of Big Pharma) agree that the afore-mentioned
'conditions' are figments of the imaginations of those
obsessed with Love of Money.  A bamboozle.  A facet of
the overall AGENDA to bring about the New Order of Things.

Really an excellent example of how the people are being
jerked around by The Establishment.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #861 on: January 30, 2015, 11:26:21 PM »
It would be very helpful to your emotional state to actually perform research on the contrived 'diseases'
ADD and ADHD.
Well it looks like you chose to squirm some more.  It's a few weeks early to be giving me a valentines gift but thanks anyway. <3 <3 <3 :) You tried to deflect a simple question into one of your trips to moron-town.
 
It's very, very simple: Do you believe that people who are diagnosed with ADHD - for the most part - are suffering or are not suffering and for the sake of argument lets say that we are talking about suffering in the period prior to diagnosis?   Seriously.  You seemed pretty eager to back Joel before - why so shy now?

...and if you think they aren't suffering in any significant way - prior to diagnosis - please just say so.  If you do believe they are suffering then please come clean and state that you think it's ok to have a tongue-in-cheek attitude about their disease and if not well that would mean you're wrong about something and I'm pretty sure you won't go there. :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #862 on: January 31, 2015, 02:44:41 AM »
The 'diagnosis' is bogus.  Any 'suffering' felt on the
part of the 'patient' as a consequence of ADD or ADHD
would actually be the result of something like reading your
insufferable postings on the topic. :o ::) 8)

You may try again but it is doubtful you'll score any higher. ;) :P


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« Reply #863 on: January 31, 2015, 02:56:41 AM »
The 'diagnosis' is bogus.
So nobody has ever come into a doctors office with a real medical problem that has no other medical label and come out with a diagnosis of ADHD?

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #864 on: January 31, 2015, 05:56:39 AM »
As you must be well aware by now, in the Land of
Looney Tunes (U.S. Medical Establishment) anything
is possible.  The impossible has been made possible. :o :-[

But, only for those who believe the deceptions and the
propaganda. ::) ???

Thankfully, Truth is yet alive and those who seek it are
able to find it. 8) :) ;)

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« Reply #865 on: January 31, 2015, 06:12:08 AM »
As you must be well aware by now, in the Land of
Looney Tunes (U.S. Medical Establishment) anything
is possible.  The impossible has been made possible. :o :-[

But, only for those who believe the deceptions and the
propaganda. ::) ???

Thankfully, Truth is yet alive and those who seek it are
able to find it. 8) :) ;)

Where is your supporting evidence for this?  The impossible has been made possible?  Where?  When?  By whom?

You are now sounding more like Crap-Z-ro.  And we all know what folks think of him.

Bill

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« Reply #866 on: January 31, 2015, 06:29:22 AM »
Not surprising that the butt plug pirate arse kisser to the shills is oblivious to the fact that people can plainly see his desperate obsession with getting even with me for exposing him as the brainless twit that he is.

Clearly he's still extremely browned off...he just its because the brown ring around his neck is because he fails to perform an enema prior to inserting his jug head up every arse he sees, and somehow thinks I'm to blame.
 
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« Reply #867 on: January 31, 2015, 06:37:58 AM »
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Ahhh...so very nice.

Bill

PS I am just glad that I have not been hacked.
       

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #868 on: January 31, 2015, 06:45:45 AM »
I played drums in a touring rock and roll band for 3 years. 
Bill

Thats explains everything...no wonder he's so thick, he probably blew his mind out with booze and blow.

Kids, booze and drugs are a lethal combination.

The butt pirate is is the poster boy for the "This is your brain of booze and drugs" campaign.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, we are all left to endure his moronic mental diarrhea.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #869 on: January 31, 2015, 06:57:29 AM »
Quote from the butt plug pirate:

" I played drums in a touring rock and roll band for 3 years. "



Well now, that explains everything...no wonder he's so thick, he probably blew his mind out with booze and blow.

Kids, booze and drugs are a lethal combination.

The burnt out butt pirate is the poster boy for the "This is your brain of booze and drugs" campaign.

Unfortunately for the rest of us, we are all left to endure his moronic mental diarrhea.

Regards...