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sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #705 on: January 17, 2015, 11:47:57 PM »
you have typed / Ranted MUCH more than the above quote..
I looked through the message history and that was the most recent quote I found about the 167 studies by me.  That was it. If there is some other point that I made that you wanted to discuss.  Then it probably would have been a good idea the MENTION IT SPECIFICALLY.  Rather than leave me to guess. No? 

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and as I have stated before there are volumes of research going nto this Epidemic
There is a lot of research being done on autism.  However that's not what you were on about.  You were talking about the statements of a particular person, you stressed their credentials which, from where I stand do not give them any significant weight.  You then pointed to the 167 studies as support of this unqualified person's opinion.  More precisely you pointed to the number 167 and said that that many studies existed and they somehow supported your point.  Which at the time was about vaccines and autism but now?  Who knows.  It might be the effect of gamma rays on man-in-the-moon-marigolds.

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grandiose ramblings here are pathetic and similar to what would be expected from a very young or inexperienced man.
Personally, I'd say it's people who swallow anything that fits with their preconceptions.  People like you.  Who are entirely unable or unwilling to READ A SINGLE STUDY and yet PREACH about the arrogance of someone who objects to the strength being placed on such categorically flimsy evidence.  People like that are those who are immature, ignorant or both.
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ps i will not be playing in your sand box anymore
Well make sure you take your ball when you stomp off and go home...in a very mature way. :)
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,your  whole self Kissy mirror thing gives me the heeby Geebies
Well it would bother me too if it wasn't entirely a fabrication of yours. :)

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #706 on: January 18, 2015, 01:31:03 AM »
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maybe your getting to close to your kissy mirror [the one on your desk with your lip prints and drool all over it...]
your glasses must be fogging up from such passionate moments of appreciation with yourself...

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, now even Chet has succumbed to making bodily fluid references

What hath I wrought ??


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...your grandiose ramblings here are pathetic and similar to what would be expected from a very young or inexperienced man.
  certainly not from a person who is old enuff to have  children or considering having children.

Well, let us all just hope he is in a committed gay relationship, or has a barren womb.


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no you keep on Patting yourself on the back , maybe slow down a bit its getting breezy in here.

I think that may be just him farting...lets face it, all that hot air has to escape sometime.

Else, he'll bloat and blow up real good.


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and Kissing yourself in the mirror and winking with that Thumbs up smile [yes we can see you]]

And we can also see the butt pirate working his back end.


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Chet


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ps ...,your  whole self Kissy mirror thing gives me the heeby Geebies

Does it qualify as multi-tasking if the butt pirate is cleaning up his back end at the same time ?

Regards...

joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #707 on: January 18, 2015, 06:09:09 AM »
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As a child in the 1940s getting a case of
the Measles, the Mumps and Chicken Pox
were common experiences.

When children then were afflicted we were
Quarantined to our homes for several weeks
(like a vacation away from school), a Quarantine
sign was placed on the home to notify all passers
by and a Nurse came to our home daily to monitor
our progress.  The family Doctor would come by
each week for a checkup and then finally decide
when the Quarantine had served its purpose.

In those days Doctors made very affordable house
calls, Quarantines at home were very common and
there weren't any mass vaccinations.  We acquired
our immunity to disease the 'old fashioned' natural
way.

As children of about age 10 we did receive a Small Pox
vaccination on the arm and periodic 'shots' for Tetanus
as injuries demanded them from time to time.

Those were the days of the Ice Man, the Milk Man, the
Radio, the Movie Theater, the neighborhood Grocery
and the $1.00 per hour minimum wage.  A glass of Beer
at the neighborhood Beer Joint was 10 cents.  A bottle
of 'pop' for the kids was 5 cents there.

Life was good.  The Police were respectful and helpful
and violent crime was nearly unknown.

Fast Food was available at Drive-In establishments where
Car Hops both took and delivered orders to the car.  The
food was healthy and not loaded with additives and/or
animal medications.

We who are in our advanced years remember fondly
those days of the Good Life and wonder often how
on Earth things ever got so screwed up.

That makes perfect sense. The IMMUNE system finds a way to keep a balance in the body. And the same goal is transferred to the WAY OF LIFE too. Since the way of life influences our way of thinking cause some thoughts are parasitic too. As a poor person only focuses on money and a rich person only focuses on 'luxuries' while a humble man (the cure) focuses in the middle.

We don't need vaccinations to get rid of 'rodents' in our houses. We just need to keep them out, as simple as that. As simple as fishing for a catfish or fishing for a whale. I know is hard to understand for most but it is the truth like you just explained. People do not need drugs nor vaccinations to get rid of a virus. We only need the SIMPLE way of teaching the person how they are transferred in the first place and engrave that in their head like they engrave that in our heads with commercials. REPETITION repetition repetition repetition till it is in our heads what will prevent the rodent getting inside your house.

Anyway, thanks for your story. A look to the past that it is our teacher for the future of society.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #708 on: January 18, 2015, 06:26:11 AM »
That makes perfect sense. The IMMUNE system finds a way to keep a balance in the body. And the same goal is transferred to the WAY OF LIFE too. Since the way of life influences our way of thinking cause some thoughts are parasitic too. As a poor person only focuses on money and a rich person only focuses on 'luxuries' while a humble man (the cure) focuses in the middle.

We don't need vaccinations to get rid of 'rodents' in our houses. We just need to keep them out, as simple as that. As simple as fishing for a catfish or fishing for a whale. I know is hard to understand for most but it is the truth like you just explained. People do not need drugs nor vaccinations to get rid of a virus. We only need the SIMPLE way of teaching the person how they are transferred in the first place and engrave that in their head like they engrave that in our heads with commercials. REPETITION repetition repetition repetition till it is in our heads what will prevent the rodent getting inside your house.

Anyway, thanks for your story. A look to the past that it is our teacher for the future of society.

This from a fellow that does not know how JB Weld works.  It is an epoxy which is made up of 2 parts.  You mix them together and you can fix anything including cylinder heads on a car, a radiator, dishwasher motor fan, and you can also drill and tap it to make or fix threads.  I even used it to fix a motor mount on my jet ski once.  I also used it to repair a broken window closer bracket on my van's window.  Good as new and I saved $50 just on that one repair.

Bill

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #709 on: January 18, 2015, 06:38:33 AM »
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I'll choose a half-sentence.  Why?  Because your posts aren't cogent.  They are barely English.  If you focused on one particular point - even acknowledging that said point does not represent the entire issue - you might be able to talk with people more.  Instead you sound like a child or someone with some kind of social disorder

I already figured you out and you are a FOLLOWER kissing pirates “BELIEFS”. There is nothing else to figure out from you but other than to support your “master”. Lol go read a book about the ALPHA and the BETA male.

Other than that we all have wondering thoughts and 100% socializing is mostly a distraction....so you must be the clown of the party like nikola tesla was? Socializing with you would not be brain pleasing.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #710 on: January 18, 2015, 06:52:56 AM »
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This from a fellow that does not know how JB Weld works.  It is an epoxy which is made up of 2 parts.  You mix them together and you can fix anything including cylinder heads on a car, a radiator, dishwasher motor fan, and you can also drill and tap it to make or fix threads.  I even used it to fix a motor mount on my jet ski once.  I also used it to repair a broken window closer bracket on my van's window.  Good as new and I saved $50 just on that one repair.

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... you can fix anything...

lol, I've used it many times and also is an epoxy. But like I mentioned before it is not as strong as doing it right in the first place, JB weld is like 'being lazy' or using duct tape to repair stuff. The cold hard truth is that you don't know how to repair things PROPERLY since i'm 100% sure NASA would never repair their space ships with JB “WELD”.

That shows how much your mentality is “reliable” to your actions.

Are you trying to tell me that an “epoxy” weld is better than an actual metal to metal weld, or plastic to plastic weld?

I'm 100% sure if your dishwasher fan fix lol, gets a sudden stop via the “unexpected” it will become loose and you will use JB weld again to repair it. Lol

You know why that is funny? Cause I have been fixing things ever since I was little! I was born with that genetic “code”. And i've learned through out the years that JB weld and duct tape are for advertisers or IGNORANT people of what is really going on the reality of how anything works. Lol

But now you went out off topic in a thread regarding vaccines? is not that against the forum rules?

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #711 on: January 18, 2015, 07:17:33 AM »
Joel
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since i'm 100% sure NASA would never repair their space ships with JB “WELD”.
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actually remember that issue with the tiles  coming off the space shuttle [due to extreme heat
yes that was solved with an epoxy...
and yes epoxys will do most of what Bill has stated ,I spent many years of my life using epoxies on everything from seismic remediation of high rise buildings  to High speed rail attachments and other high stress high risk applications.
laguardia airports epoxy repair of the cantilevered peer expansion joint  of the main runway comes to mind .


however when it comes to tensile equivalency repairs of structural metals or exotic alloys[/size]
welding is always preferred [so far] however things are changing and soon we maybe "growing" these repairs as well as all manner of miracles yet to be seen in the 3D printing world.


times they are a changing....


respectfully


Chet
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and yes JB weld is amazing stuff in a pinch but the things you can do with a truly high quality epoxy wood amaze .

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #712 on: January 18, 2015, 07:31:35 AM »
lol, I've used it many times and also is an epoxy.
...i'm 100% sure NASA would never repair their space ships with JB “WELD”.

I'm 100% sure if your dishwasher fan fix lol, gets a sudden stop via the “unexpected” it will become loose and you will use JB weld again to repair it. Lol

...JB weld and duct tape are for advertisers or IGNORANT people of what is really going on the reality of how anything works. Lol

Just for sh!ts and giggles, wooden it be funny if during the nigh when everyone is fast asleep, somebody JB Welded the arses of all the forum's trolls and shills ?

I wonder how much of a tongue lashing they'd all get before the arse kisser caught on that he'd been pranked ?


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But now you went out off topic in a thread regarding vaccines? is not that against the forum rules?

Thats how trolls roll joel,
even a wanna be troll.

Regards...

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« Reply #713 on: January 18, 2015, 07:42:05 AM »
Thanks Chet.  I agree.

A funny story....

Back when I owned my machining company, my Dad was the Chief Engineer and we were working on a very special aerospace project that
required epoxying 2 pieces of ceramic together.  The choice of epoxy was critical so I asked my Dad about it and he consulted his Bell Labs phone directory
and made a call to a guy he knew.  He later told me this fellow recommended Armstrong C-4 and Activator W.  I asked my Dad if he was sure that this fellow knew what he was talking about, and he said "Bill, this is the guy that invented epoxy."  That was good enough for me, ha ha.

The really cool thing was, following this guy's instructions, which required using gravity (weight) during the critical setting phase that took place inside an oven,
the epoxy flowed so thin that when completed, you could not even measure it.  In other words, you take 2 blocks precision machined to .5000", epoxy them together as described, and then measure the total height and it was 1.0000"!  The guy said that when you can not measure the epoxy layer, that is the strongest possible bond you can get.  We tested this over and over and the ceramic material always gave way and not the joint.

Off topic for sure but, I still think it was pretty cool.

Bill

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« Reply #714 on: January 18, 2015, 08:45:37 AM »
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actually remember that issue with the tiles  coming off the space shuttle [due to extreme heat
yes that was solved with an epoxy...
and yes epoxys will do most of what Bill has stated ,I spent many years of my life using epoxies on everything from seismic remediation of high rise buildings  to High speed rail attachments and other high stress high risk applications.
laguardia airports epoxy repair of the cantilevered peer expansion joint  of the main runway comes to mind .

Yes chet thanks for answering BUT we can both understand that was just a last desperate fix. I can also THINK of welding metal to metal as being a metal “epoxy”. All epoxies are not the same and the mere word of “epoxy” is just not strong enough but rather the last desperate measures.

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however when it comes to tensile equivalency repairs of structural metals or exotic alloys[/size]
welding is always preferred [so far] however things are changing and soon we maybe "growing" these repairs as well as all manner of miracles yet to be seen in the 3D printing world.

Yes I understand, it all BOILS down to the molecular level. But it also has to do with understanding the past since MISTAKES MAKES PERFECTION. I don't know if I can explain myself right. It is bright as day in my mind. An 'epoxy' cannot replace the mother nature structural stregth. Epoxy is artificial and not as strong as the actual DNA encoded strands! Molecular 'level".

I don't know if I'm making myself clear here but we can do some tests if you are for it since facts speak better than words. We can conduct experiments and find a replacement for real life molecular strengths VS man made epoxy strength.

Then we can 100% know that “epoxy” is just not as strong as the real molecular level strength. In fact, welding two metals together, their weakest point is in the welding. Since that is just a repair. So we can all types of “welding” in a scale and see which one is the strongest of all! And i'm pretty sure JB weld is in the bottom of them all. Of course I understand that there are some 'epoxies' that work better than others, but they will NEVER be as strong as the actual metal, plastic, glass. Molecular 'level".

In the case of those tiles, most of the holding was also due to the INTENSE helping of the the REPULSION mostly than the jb weld. IOW, the "weld" was not the same as the other tiles where being held together. If that was 100% true, in the beginning, they did not "epoxy" the rest of the tiles did they? What I mean, where the rest of the tiles "epoxied" in?

I can go on and on and become an 'epoxy” expert and get paid to come up with a BETTER epoxy, but at the end of the day, the epoxy is still and epoxy.

Thanks for your thoughts chet! I like the way you didn't attack me. There is so much to be learned yet and so little time to argue about the present reality.

As a matter of fact, I find it that talking about 'epoxies' is childish when looking at the BIG PICTURE of life.

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« Reply #715 on: January 18, 2015, 09:34:23 AM »
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Back when I owned my machining company, my Dad was the Chief Engineer and we were working on a very special aerospace project that
required epoxying 2 pieces of ceramic together.  The choice of epoxy was critical so I asked my Dad about it and he consulted his Bell Labs phone directory
and made a call to a guy he knew.  He later told me this fellow recommended Armstrong C-4 and Activator W.  I asked my Dad if he was sure that this fellow knew what he was talking about, and he said "Bill, this is the guy that invented epoxy."  That was good enough for me, ha ha.

Now I see where the 'love' for epoxy comes from. Father and son. Which is the 'epoxy' of sperm to a vagina lol...just a little inside joke. (well in my mind)

Dude, I don't mind hearing your stories at all! I welcome them and tell me how your thoughts came to be! It's all understandable and you deserve a cookie....but the ultimate goal is LIFE! To keep on living and keep on living. Plus since we are CIVILIZED animals, keep on fighting with each other. Nothing good comes from that but negative ENERGY! That or pockets full of money for the investors.

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The really cool thing was, following this guy's instructions, which required using gravity (weight) during the critical setting phase that took place inside an oven,
the epoxy flowed so thin that when completed, you could not even measure it.  In other words, you take 2 blocks precision machined to .5000", epoxy them together as described, and then measure the total height and it was 1.0000"!  The guy said that when you can not measure the epoxy layer, that is the strongest possible bond you can get.  We tested this over and over and the ceramic material always gave way and not the joint.

Off topic for sure but, I still think it was pretty cool.

Hey cool guy, what makes you think that your “coolness” is the only cool? I have my own beliefs of cool that do not relate to epoxy what so ever cause I have other things to figure out. You don't even sound like an epoxy expert, you just sound like the guy whom taught you how “epoxy” works IS the expert! So I can picture myself you being amazed by others inventions only!

This ONLY implies that you are not EVEN an 'epoxy' expert but rather an 'groupie'. Or to be nicee, what you have learned from your PAST experiences.

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« Reply #716 on: January 18, 2015, 03:47:33 PM »
I already figured you out
The fact remains that what you write is barely cogent English.  I wonder if this is deliberate or if you simply don't understand how poorly you are communicating.  As i said, before my money is on "troll".  Like profitis your poor language tends to look a little forced. 

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« Reply #718 on: January 18, 2015, 10:08:33 PM »
More about the Flu Shots 'not working.'

For a guy that I assume hates the political system, you sure as hell go to great lengths to doctor and spin information so that if people are too lazy to think then you just might win them over.

From the article (the first bloody sentence):

"More than  three-quarters of Americans who got this season's flu shot could get the  virus anyway, given a mismatch between the flu strains covered by the  shot and those actually causing illness in people, U.S. officials said."

Also:

""There  are some years when the virus drifts and the vaccine still provides  pretty good protection. This is not one of those years," he said."

And many people when they read things like this will invoke what I sometimes call, the "cry baby syndrome."   Waaa!  I expect people that give me government services to be perfect all the time.  Waaa!

If heaven forbid a real superbug breaks out akin to the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic that killed 20 million+ people, don't forget to register online for your appointment for your flu shot.  You might end up standing next to Captain Zero, you never know.

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« Reply #719 on: January 18, 2015, 10:57:42 PM »
don't forget to register online for your appointment for your flu shot.  You might end up standing next to Captain Zero, you never know.

...And if his eyes are glazed over and he has a dark brown smell about him, he's MilesHigh, and it may or may not be a flu shot line you're in.

Regards...