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sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #525 on: January 11, 2015, 03:03:43 AM »
Sodium Bicarbonate solution in the armpits and other sweat prone regions of the body will keep them 'clean' and
healthy and smelling good.
Water is going to sluice off bacteria and lipids.  So if you have relatively easy to control odor and you wash yourself. You can add any nonsense remedy you want and chalk it up to success.   Which I suspect is a big part of your life - assuming you're not just a troll.

If your "solution" is more of a paste and contains a lot of NaHCO3 you will likely end up irritating the skin.   Why?  Same reason that it becomes biotoxic.  It raised the pH.
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The 'old ways' are often the best.
See this is a perfect example of how much you aren't really someone who thinks about what's true.  If you did, you would realize that such a statement would require knowledge of a representative sample of "old ways" and a representative sample of "new ways".  Which you likely don't (putting aside that the terms themselves are pretty poorly defined).

joel321

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« Reply #526 on: January 11, 2015, 04:48:16 AM »
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Uh...in a word..."no".  How do we know you're wrong?  Well there's already an unrelated series of diseases where an immune response acts against ones own tissues.  These are called auto-immune disorders.

All I mean is 100% FACTS that smoking, alcohol, obesity will cause cancers. This is facts right? That is all I mean by my statements! If I want to duel DEEPER in how that works, I would learn how body cells work and how the human immunity work. I know for a fact that human cells are encoded in their brain what to do! (like I said, repairing a cut in an animal)

So you cannot disagree with me that smoking, alcohol, and obesity do not cause cancers. That is what I call “influenced” and the GENETIC part is another thing.

Tell me how or why a cancer happens in an alcoholic person?

joel321

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« Reply #527 on: January 11, 2015, 05:00:51 AM »
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...and never once do you question even slightly if you are right.  Your so-called angst over informing people that they are wrong seems to be more about YOU than about other people.   There's some actual food-for-thought. eh?

I question myself all of the time. Me and my brain have a hate and love relationship lol.

I know for a FACT that obesity will reduce your life expectancy by as much as 30 years and when I even think in the wild an obese person is easy picking for the hunters and very delicious.

To stay on point, I don't see where i'm wrong when I say that obesity, alcoholism, smoking, does not cause cancers! This i'm sure the people whom are obese, are smoking, and are drinking deep down know this. But their “addicted” part of their brain is more powerful than the “retional” part of their brain...and we can keep on digging deeper and deeper but over the top layer, we can see where that is headed = cancers. And this is only based on “influencing” cancers but there is also genetic cancers.

A skinny person will suffer lest body wise than an obese person 100% facts. And here I go into the real of GREED, well an obese person will buy more mcdonals than a skinny person. And i'm pretty sure they ad some scientific ingredients in there by the paid scientists to hit on that craving gene in all of us so we can keep on buying! But then i'll be going really deep in to the corruption of society!


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« Reply #528 on: January 11, 2015, 05:16:26 AM »
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Everyone has bacteria on their skin and everyone has sweat glands.  The smell comes from the bacteria consuming lipids from apocrine sweat glands.  Some people produce more of these substances than others (the AA allele of ABCC11 for example often means you will rarely if ever have body odour).

Still, every time you take a bath, you are washing away the body bacteria. Same as when you brush your teeth! No matter what you say, all animals shower to get rid of aliens on their skin/feathers.

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Now your skin is actually slightly hostile to this bacteria due to it's natural Ph (somewhere between 4 and 6).  When you wash your skin you bring your skin Ph closer to 8 and if you wash with soap (which is often alkaline) this increases your Ph even more.  So washing, while it will reduce some of the bacteria and a lot of the lipids it will also promote bacteria growth.

The point is that bacteria will always live in your body, i'm sure I have 3 billion of them right now all over my body. And my body immune system sees them while I can't with my eyes. But I am 100% sure that taking a shower will take one million of the bacteria down the drain off my body.

I even thought about washing your hands. We wash our hands before we eat to WASH away the bacteria that want to get inside our body. And some of them do get through...(we also have air borne ones but thats another story for another day). I made a conclusion that most of the bacteria that enters our body even after washing our hands that come from our hands is via the thumb, since the thumb is not close to the other four fingers, it stays the dirtiest. I thought about that that i'm 100% the thumb stays the dirtiest when people wash their hands. At any rate! I bet $100 US dollars that the thumb has more bacteria than the rest of the fingers!!!!

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At some point your body has enough bacteria and is producing enough lipids from the apocrine glands that you will smell.  For some people this can simply be washing, others would have to wash many times a day with soap.  For these people anti-perspirant is a perfectly reasonable option.

Well sweating is the HVAC cooling system of the body! If you plug the sweat glands with aluminum, i'm sure you are causing another imbalance.

The micro world is more complicated than the things that your see with the naked eye. I'm not even going to pretend that I know the microbial world but i'm 100% sure that obesity is a cash cow and will lower your life expectancy.

I just can't grasp why antiperspirant is needed at all?

sarkeizen

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« Reply #529 on: January 11, 2015, 06:10:44 AM »
All I mean is 100% FACTS that smoking, alcohol, obesity will cause cancers. This is facts right?
Depends one what you mean.  Various factors increase the lifetime risk of specific cancers.

You still haven't mentioned what this has to do with the immune system attacking your own tissue.

sarkeizen

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« Reply #530 on: January 11, 2015, 06:16:37 AM »
I question myself all of the time.
Not enough to have any discernible doubt about your beliefs.
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I know for a FACT that obesity will reduce your life expectancy by as much as 30 years
What makes you think that?
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I don't see where i'm wrong
How can you say that you question yourself but you can't see where you would be wrong.  This is enormous evidence that you don't question yourself.   If you did, you would know what would have to be true in order for you to be right...and by virtue of that you would know how you could be wrong.

sarkeizen

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« Reply #531 on: January 11, 2015, 06:31:56 AM »
I just can't grasp
...and yet you claim to question yourself.
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why antiperspirant is needed at all?
Seriously? it is entirely beyond your comprehension that some people would:

a) Highly value not smelling bad
b) Would consider it impossible or considerably inconvenient to shower more than once in the morning and once at night
c) Would produce sufficient lipids and have sufficient bacteria to consume them to end up smelling bad.

If you can't grasp those things then I wish you all the best as you enter the 4th grade.

joel321

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« Reply #532 on: January 11, 2015, 06:52:52 AM »
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Depends one what you mean.  Various factors increase the lifetime risk of specific cancers.

OK tell me how ALL cancers are born?

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You still haven't mentioned what this has to do with the immune system attacking your own tissue.

I already mentioned that there are two ways to get cancer A) genetic B) influenced. Obesity is “”influenced” way of getting cancers and lots of other disorders like DIABETES! For example.

The human immunity cannot defend against obesity if the human keeps on eating none-stop = obesity. And the stomach or other organ are at higher risk to get cancers than a skinny persons stomach! Plain and simple!

The immune system starts to attack it's own body when there is an unbalance in the body like obesity or alcoholism....  the immune system then start to attack it's own tissue and then there is an over growth of inflammation and tumors and our own cells attacking the body from these foreign obesity cells that should not be there in the first place.

In fact, I believe it's a way of “evolution”. There is a genetic code that teaches us to live longer and if we don't listen, out own body goes on self destruction! Cancers, tumors, STDs, you name it!



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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #533 on: January 11, 2015, 06:59:21 AM »
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What makes you think that?

this is very simple looking at both the civilized world and in the animalistic world.

In the civilized world we understand that obesity will cause diabetics and a lot of other ailments.

In the animalistic world, we can gather that a fat cheetah will not be able to run at it's full speed to be able to hunt and provide for it's young. So there it is, there are no obese cheetahs that will live their full expected life expectancy.

So we can conclude that being obese is both harmful in the civilized world and in the animalistic world and that 100% being obese is only a way to make money for the “big boys” a.k.a., fast generic food buying. Plain and simple!

Show me an obese animal in the wild that lives longer than it's counterparts?  8)

sarkeizen

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« Reply #534 on: January 11, 2015, 07:21:05 AM »
OK tell me how ALL cancers are born?
It's a question without a useful answer because were pretty sure that cancers - neoplasms - happen for a variety of reasons.  Some have a viral precursor, some ionizing radiation, etc...
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the immune system then start to attack it's own tissue and then there is an over growth of inflammation and tumors
Nope.  Inflammation comes from vascular tissue.  Neoplasms come from unregulated cell division.

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« Reply #535 on: January 11, 2015, 07:25:35 AM »
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Seriously? it is entirely beyond your comprehension that some people would:

a) Highly value not smelling bad
b) Would consider it impossible or considerably inconvenient to shower more than once in the morning and once at night
c) Would produce sufficient lipids and have sufficient bacteria to consume them to end up smelling bad.

If you can't grasp those things then I wish you all the best as you enter the 4th grade.

Huh! Nobody likes to smell bad.

Huh! Well we all shower....I took a shower today and dlushed many stinky bacteria down the drain today....as I will tomorrow because vacteria reproduce very fast..lol

Huh! Well LIPIDS are cheese burgers to obesity bacteria lol you continue to mention “lipids” lets kills all lipids?

OK, what are LIPIDS since you seem to be talking about them all over the place?

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« Reply #536 on: January 11, 2015, 07:28:25 AM »
In the civilized world we understand that obesity will cause diabetics and a lot of other ailments.
No.  Obesity can be defined as having a BMI anywhere from 27 or more (depending on where you live).  Obesity is CORRELATED with various ailments.  That's not the same as CAUSING ailments.

For example there are olympic athletes who have a BMI > 27.

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« Reply #537 on: January 11, 2015, 07:33:12 AM »
OK, what are LIPIDS since you seem to be talking about them all over the place?
Fats.  For someone who claims to have spent an enormous amount of time challenging his own ideas.  You never seemed to bother to crack a book in the process.

Again you say it is utterly beyond your comprehension why someone would consider it necessary to use antiperspirant

Since you agree that there exist people who don't like to smell bad, people who have no opportunity to shower during the day.  Is what you are stuck on the idea that various people have different amounts of bacteria and different amounts of lipids (and other body odor precursors)

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« Reply #538 on: January 11, 2015, 07:39:45 AM »
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It's a question without a useful answer because were pretty sure that cancers - neoplasms - happen for a variety of reasons.  Some have a viral precursor, some ionizing radiation, etc...

Are you escape goating? So you have zero CLUE where cancers come from?

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Nope.  Inflammation comes from vascular tissue.  Neoplasms come from unregulated cell division.

What is “vascular tissue”?

What is “Neoplasms”?

What are “regulated” cells?


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« Reply #539 on: January 11, 2015, 07:52:25 AM »
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No.  Obesity can be defined as having a BMI anywhere from 27 or more (depending on where you live).  Obesity is CORRELATED with various ailments.  That's not the same as CAUSING ailments.

For example there are olympic athletes who have a BMI > 27.

Contradiction much?

What are you talking about this BMI > 27 and stuff?
A fat obese person is fat just by looking at one! Like over 50% of the USA population!
What do you mean?

Oh, let me ask, How much do you weigh in USA lbs? lol (please say the truth)