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Author Topic: Vaccinations; recent developments  (Read 485896 times)

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #360 on: December 24, 2014, 10:45:56 PM »
We have taller buildings but shorter tempers; wider freeways but narrower viewpoints; we spend more but have less; we buy more but enjoy it less; we have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, yet less time; we have more degrees but less sense; more knowledge but less judgement; more experts, yet more problems; we have more gadgets but less satisfaction; more medicine, yet less wellness; we take more vitamins but see fewer results. We drink too much; smoke too much; spend too recklessly; laugh too little; drive too fast; get too angry quickly; stay up too late; get up too tired; read too seldom; watch TV too much and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values; we fly in faster planes to arrive there quicker, to do less and return sooner; we sign more contracts only to realize fewer profits; we talk too much; love too seldom and lie too often. We’ve learned how to make a living, but not a life; we’ve added years to life, not life to years. We’ve been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We’ve conquered outer space, but not inner space; we’ve done larger things, but not better things; we’ve cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul; we’ve split the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less; plan more, but accomplish less; we make faster planes, but longer lines; we learned to rush, but not to wait; we have more weapons, but less peace; higher incomes, but lower morals; more parties, but less fun; more food, but less appeasement; more acquaintances, but fewer friends; more effort, but less success. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but have less communication; drive smaller cars that have bigger problems; build larger factories that produce less.
Isn't it interesting how that is all spoon-feeding ideology?  Not a word about reason and how to do it. :)

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #361 on: December 24, 2014, 10:59:57 PM »
What is written may be considered or rejected
as each chooses.

Wisdom eventually enters in as we learn to
make correction to our wrong decisions.

Discovering TRUTH is never an instantaneous
process.  Too often it involves the pain of suffering
consequences as we respond to inappropriate desires.

Very sadly, some will never seem to 'learn' in this
present lifetime.  But there is hope never-the-less.
TRUTH is on the way!

But first there will be much chaos and destruction
as malevolent men (including women) carry out their
nefarious PLAN for World Domination.  It is happening
now before our very eyes.
 

MarkE

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #362 on: December 25, 2014, 01:08:02 AM »
I like the idea of personal responsibility.  I hope that others agree that personal responsibility includes making reasonable inquiries into ideas before accepting them as beliefs.

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #363 on: December 25, 2014, 01:56:29 AM »
Good advice.  Question everything that is propagated
both from government sources via the mainstream
media as well as alternative sources.  In this present
age disinformation abounds.

With unrelenting effort the ability to discern will fully
develop.

TRUTH is simply amazing.
 

Pirate88179

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #364 on: December 25, 2014, 02:04:34 AM »
Good advice.  Question everything that is propagated
both from government sources via the mainstream
media as well as alternative sources.  In this present
age disinformation abounds.

With unrelenting effort the ability to discern will fully
develop.

TRUTH is simply amazing.

Now this I totally agree with.  Due diligence and personal responsibility to find what is real...AND, what is not.

Bill

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #365 on: December 25, 2014, 03:05:46 AM »
What is written may be considered or rejected as each chooses.
In other words:  All you are doing is promoting a particular set of ideologies.  Right?  You also seem to do so without even the slightest amount of self-examination.  Right?

So given that all you do is push unexamined opinion.  How does this help move people toward the truth?

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #366 on: December 25, 2014, 03:06:25 AM »
Good advice.  Question everything that is propagated both from government sources via the mainstream media as well as alternative sources.  In this present age disinformation abounds.

In other words be the opposite of you. :)

Why must everything SM says be like listening to 4th grade debate club?  Seriously, has anyone ever thought about having a reasonably objective set of criteria to APPLY to ideas or having a useful well-defined and consistent process for evaluating ideas?  Or is there some attraction to poorly defined and logically inconsistent epistemology that I'm not seeing. For example is everyone incapable of dealing with a philosophy that can't be stated on a bumper sticker?

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #367 on: December 25, 2014, 03:07:09 AM »
I like the idea of personal responsibility.  I hope that others agree that personal responsibility includes making reasonable inquiries into ideas before accepting them as beliefs.
But not before advertising them? :)

MarkE

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #368 on: December 25, 2014, 11:24:57 AM »
Advertising an unverified idea as something one would like others to accept as true is foolish or worse.  Advertising an unverified idea in a solicitation for help with diligence is fine to me.

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #369 on: December 25, 2014, 07:10:30 PM »
Advertising an unverified idea as something one would like others to accept as true is foolish or worse.
"Negligent" is the word I use.  It's pretty obvious that SM at least attempts to appear of the later category.

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #370 on: December 25, 2014, 09:38:12 PM »
Quote from: MarkE
Advertising an unverified idea as something one would like others to accept as true is foolish or worse.  Advertising an unverified idea in a solicitation for help with diligence is fine to me.

There is never any pressure for others to accept
anything as 'true.'  TRUTH does not come from
casual acceptance without verification.

Materials presented should be naught more than
a beginning in the search for what is TRUE and
what is The Lie.

Our modern world has become enamored of The
Lie and makes use of it extensively to manipulate
into existence a false 'reality.'  Those who believe
that TRUTH is gained by simple acceptance are
easy game for the Liars.

Persevere!  TRUTH is within everyone's grasp!

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #371 on: December 25, 2014, 10:39:58 PM »
Doctor Oz is finding that there is much resistance
to healing by nutrition from The Establishment.


True healing which is accomplished without spending
large sums payable to Big Pharma is tantamount to
heresy!

In so many ways, America seems to have lost its
zest for truth and integrity.

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #372 on: December 26, 2014, 02:14:18 AM »
There is never any pressure for others to accept anything as 'true.'
...or to run trwhen you shout "fire" in a crowded theater. You appear to present specific ideas as being generally correct (or considerably more so) despite the fact that you either know them to be false or they are trivially falsified.  I'd call this negligent.
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TRUTH does not come from casual acceptance without verification.
Can you provide any verification for any of the things you present?  Didn't think so. :)  In other words you don't have any truth and by virtue of that you can not usefully contribute to the pursuit of truth. :)
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Persevere!  TRUTH is within everyone's grasp!
Probably not yours. :)
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MarkE

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #373 on: December 26, 2014, 03:05:41 AM »
There is never any pressure for others to accept
anything as 'true.'  TRUTH does not come from
casual acceptance without verification.

Materials presented should be naught more than
a beginning in the search for what is TRUE and
what is The Lie.

Our modern world has become enamored of The
Lie and makes use of it extensively to manipulate
into existence a false 'reality.'  Those who believe
that TRUTH is gained by simple acceptance are
easy game for the Liars.

Persevere!  TRUTH is within everyone's grasp!
That's all fine philosophy.  There appear to be large discrepancies between that stated philosophy and your promotion of ideas that are belied by well established evidence.

MarkE

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #374 on: December 26, 2014, 03:07:48 AM »
Doctor Oz is finding that there is much resistance
to healing by nutrition from The Establishment.


True healing which is accomplished without spending
large sums payable to Big Pharma is tantamount to
heresy!

In so many ways, America seems to have lost its
zest for truth and integrity.
Dr. Oz is an industry unto himself who has as much self interest as any other corporation.