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Author Topic: Vaccinations; recent developments  (Read 215020 times)

Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2014, 06:34:58 AM »
Where on Earth is AB?
Alberta, Canada - where Allcanadian claims to be from.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2014, 06:36:19 AM »
Alberta, Canada - where Allcanadian claims to be from.
By Lake Louise I think you've got it!

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2014, 06:39:03 AM »
Which is right next to Mount Gonnatakeapeek.


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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2014, 06:43:51 AM »
I woke up in the middle of an autism epidemic one day.
I'm not sure if you have woken up yet.  Excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting.
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Later on so called scientists are accused of hiding evidence their vaccines were the cause
Cite?  Or are you still thinking about Hooker's reanalysis.   I mean if you want to buy statistical analysis from someone who doesn't actually understand it be my guest.  Hooker is really the only one in that drama who can be called a "so called scientist".  As he is making a demonstrably incorrect claim OUTSIDE HIS FIELD.  Seriously, would you ask a plumber to do regression analysis?  Why ask a biochemist?
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After all, these people we're talking about are murderous satan worshiping pedophiles.
Ok, now you are just making me love you.  Since this kind of talk couldn't come from anyone other than a troll.
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Some choose to get their magnifying glass out to inspect the black spot...while i choose to stand back and observe the entire leopard.
Right now all you've done is imply that there was a CDC cover up.  Based on a study you never read and even if you did you wouldn't understand.  Where is the rest of the alleged leopard?


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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2014, 07:18:57 AM »
I guess we can't delete the part about the people putting poison in my drinking water chemtrails in the sky and poison in my food products.


But lts move on, its a much easier task to try to dismiss this lone whistle blower...but not so easy when you hit double digits, like in the examples cited above...just ask Bill Cosby.

I mean why hide data in the first place, if everything is on the up and up ?

That reminds me, I better go hide yesterdays newspaper.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2014, 07:18:57 AM »
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Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2014, 07:24:39 AM »
but not so easy when you hit double digits, like in the examples cited above.
Exactly what examples?  The only example about vaccines you've produced is one that is clearly refuted.
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I mean why hide data in the first place, if everything is on the up and up ?
What data do you think has been hidden?  Any reason you can't just clearly make your argument?  Is it really that easy to destroy that you need to hide it from me?

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2014, 08:10:43 AM »
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Alberta, Canada - where Allcanadian claims to be from.

That, of course, is the kneejerk response you've obviously
been 'programmed' to believe and to deliver.

There is, however, a LEGAL DEFINITION of 'AB' which specifies
what IT is and where IT is located.  Are you familiar with
Legal Fictions?

With just a bit of research effort you should be able to discover
some clues.  The detailed and truthful LEGAL DEFINITION may
take much more effort unless you have a suitable resource at
your disposal.

It goes along with the deceptions which are so much a part of
the 'governments' of this age.
 

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2014, 03:05:08 PM »
Ever notice how the cabalists consistently avoid the fact that vaccinations are just one weapon used in the war against humanity ?

Focusing on the semantics and minutia are the main ways to avoid addressing the entire picture...its along the same lines as compartmentalization.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2014, 03:41:15 PM »
Ever notice how the cabalists consistently avoid the fact that vaccinations are just one weapon used in the war against humanity ?
However you have yet to provide any credible evidence that it's a weapon.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2014, 03:52:22 PM »
I was under the impression that the Overunity forum was a collection of open minded individuals who are interested in alternative energy and alternative health discussions.
I think it's more a community of narrow minded counter cultural zealotry. :)  You are a prime example of this.  I mean look at what you write.  Immensely arrogant, sweeping generalizations.  Entirely devoid of useful argument or evidence. :)  So no, you fail (miserably) the open-minded test.
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It is quite surprising that there are people here who strongly defends the use of mercury in human bodies especially babies.
It's just a risk assessment.  So far Thiomersal is an exceptionally low risk.
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I simply cannot fathom
Yes.  This is the problem.
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What is the safe level of mercury in the body ?
Yawn.  Arbitrary standard of evidence.
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One simple answer :  ZERO.  If it was safe, then the body would have produced it or has receptors specifically for them in the first place.
This is wrong in so many ways it's almost impressive.  Your body regularly creates chemicals which are lethal to it at particular dosages and you regularly ingest chemicals which your body can not biosynthesize.   Is there a particular reason you are as ignorant as you are?  Did you not go to school?

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« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2014, 03:52:22 PM »
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Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2014, 03:53:31 PM »
That, of course, is the kneejerk response you've obviously been 'programmed' to believe and to deliver.
I confess I am part of those programmed to both use and understand provincial codes with reasonable accuracy.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2014, 05:03:17 PM »
@Sark
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Alberta, Canada - where Allcanadian claims to be from.


Yes, the land of oil and gas however I'm in Southern Alberta with miles of rolling prairie as far as the eye can see. As well we Albertan's are known for our independence which may come as no surprise. We are known as the world leaders of oil and gas extraction technologies and I know many people who travel around the world consulting. On a side note I know hundreds of people in the industry, many millionaires and most all have told me they would leave it in a heartbeat if they could make a living any other way. So it is not as if anyone wants to be there because it is a dirty unsustainable cut throat business and if the money wasn't there everyone told me they would leave and never look back which is interesting.


I understand I went a little overboard in my posts and a few glasses of wine may have influenced me,lol. I think we should be diligent and at the very least try to do a little research to properly weigh the risks. That is we should not be doing something just because other people are doing it or because we see an advertisement telling us we should do something.


I think most would agree we are being influenced by the media in the form of advertising on a scale which is unheard of in our history. I have no vested interest here, obviously, because I'm not the one telling someone to go out and buy something...just the opposite. As well Health care here may be free but we all know we always pay in one form or another. I pay my taxes and a large portion goes to the government, which then goes to the health care system which then goes to the drug corporations. So you see there is no free in it because my money still ends up in their pockets and I am paying for others vaccinations as well through my taxes.


In my opinion and using casual observations it would seem the least informed and unfortunately the least intelligent people at the lower income levels would seem to be the one's lining up to get vaccinated. Based on my personal observations and questions to family and friends as well as other persons I know.


Which raises a question in my mind, I know why I am here and it is to offer an alternative perspective to that of the media but I have to wonder why you are here?. I mean you seem to be suggesting that we should all go out and get vaccinated which would benefit the pharmaceutical industry while I am saying we should make informed choices. Which relates to the theme of my lasts posts concerning the motivations of people, why they are here and what they are saying...again just casual observations.


By the way why are you here if you don't mind me asking?.


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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2014, 06:53:48 PM »
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I have no vested interest here, obviously, because I'm not the one telling someone to go out and buy something...just the opposite.
If you actually HAD read books on psychology or economics you'd recognize that you likely do have a vested interest: A vested interest in your current belief.
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As well Health care here may be free but we all know we always pay in one form or another.
Irrelevant to every an all points at hand. :)  You still can't walk into a pharmacy and BUY a vaccine as you said you could.
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In my opinion and using casual observations it would seem the least informed and unfortunately the least intelligent people at the lower income levels would seem to be the one's lining up to get vaccinated.
For an alleged engineer, your logic is insanely poor.  Your statement is:
a) Mindless bigotry. :)  You can't determine someones IQ by looking at them for the 4 min it takes to give them an IM of Fluarix.  You certainly can't gauge their level of information on a issue in that time.
b) Probably, in essence an inverse ad populum fallacy.
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Based on my personal observations and questions to family and friends as well as other persons I know.
Wow you asked people for the AVERAGE IQ of people getting vaccinated and they were able to tell it to you with high accuracy?  Considering it takes the WAIS IV at least an hour to get a good estimate based on a very carefully chosen series of questions.  It's far far far far far far far far more likely that your observations and opinions of people you know are simply not nearly accurate enough to draw your conclusions.
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I know why I am here
So you say...
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I mean you seem to be suggesting that we should all go out and get vaccinated
No, I'm saying that virtually every assertion you've made against vaccines tend to fall into one of three categories.  a) Unfounded - you have cited nothing supporting your views.  b) ridiculous - 1 in 20 people who take some vaccines are seriously injured or killed?  c) show a real ignorance of math, biology and/or logic - like your "casually observing someone's IQ".  Personally I don't care if you get vaccinated or not.  However I do care if you want to come in here and promote nonsense.

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I am saying we should make informed choices.
Not true, or that's not very much of what your saying. Your first two posts were FILLED with claim after ludicrous claim.  Spreading nonsense isn't telling people to make informed choices.  It's limiting them.

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By the way why are you here if you don't mind me asking?.
I find it interesting how people like you and Capt-Z-ro and profitis work very hard to preserve your own ignorance.  It's pretty amazing really.  You go on about informed choice but can't actually defend your position and you clearly haven't done the kind of work necessary to reach some of the conclusions you claim.  All three of you spent far more time posturing than actually trying to clarify your position and none of you show much ability to criticize your own beliefs.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2014, 07:25:18 PM »
However you have yet to provide any credible evidence that it's a weapon.

And once again, oh so conveniently, side stepping the part about the inbred cabal putting poison in drinking water, spraying toxic chemtrails in the sky and poison GMO's in food products.



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It's just a risk assessment.  So far Thiomersal is an exceptionally low risk.

Well, now we're getting somewhere...we have an admission of risk.  An exceptionally low risk its claimed...by whom we do not know ??



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However you have yet to provide any credible evidence that it's a weapon.


Again, who in the hell needs more evidence when you have the inbred cabal putting poison in drinking water, spraying toxic chemtrails in the sky and poison GMO's in food products, is it a stretch to conclude that we are the victims of bio-warfare ???


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Your body regularly creates chemicals...

Now i suppose he's going to try to tell us that the form of citric acid that powers our immune system is the same as the chemical form of it which according to bio chemist Joe Hart, has the exact opposite effect.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2014, 07:52:45 PM »
And once again, oh so conveniently, side stepping the part about the inbred cabal putting poison in drinking water, spraying toxic chemtrails in the sky and poison GMO's in food products.
I think those issues are sufficiently well covered in the Weekly World News.
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Well, now we're getting somewhere...we have an admission of risk.
Saying "very safe" is the same as saying "low risk".
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An exceptionally low risk its claimed...by whom we do not know ??
Already cited a study.
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Again, who in the hell needs more evidence
So you're saying you don't need evidence actually indicating vaccine risk in order to conclude vaccine risk.  :)  Awwww you really are a troll.

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