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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1860 on: August 24, 2015, 01:07:24 PM »
try a site without all the CT.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/05/14/no-vaccine-reactions-didnt-kill-several-children-in-mexico/
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It appears that site may have a financial interest in this story and is one-sided.  This site is connected to and have clients in the healthcare industry, government agencies, and possibly it's own lab.  Let's see how far this rabbit hole goes.  For now, I'm going to bed and will dig deeper into this later and will be posting references to support a financial interest.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1860 on: August 24, 2015, 01:07:24 PM »

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1861 on: August 24, 2015, 07:05:05 PM »
GB i do look forward to seeing you come up with hard proof.
 the guy is a USA university researcher, yes he has a lab.
so any connection to a small clinic in Mexico with a spoiled
or contaminated batch of vaccine will be good.
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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1862 on: August 24, 2015, 10:32:09 PM »
GB i do look forward to seeing you come up with hard proof.
 the guy is a USA university researcher, yes he has a lab.
so any connection to a small clinic in Mexico with a spoiled
or contaminated batch of vaccine will be good.
fritznien

IMO, any financial connections to vaccines or the pharmaceutical industry is good enough.  Also, any clients he may have who has a financial interest in vaccines or the pharma industry should be sufficient to show he's biased.  I'll be posting references as I find them.  One reference will lead to another reference and so on.

David Gorski’s Financial Pharma Ties: What He Didn’t Tell You

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1863 on: August 25, 2015, 02:07:13 AM »
IMO, any financial connections to vaccines or the pharmaceutical industry is good enough.  Also, any clients he may have who has a financial interest in vaccines or the pharma industry should be sufficient to show he's biased.  I'll be posting references as I find them.  One reference will lead to another reference and so on.

David Gorski’s Financial Pharma Ties: What He Didn’t Tell You

Below is a small excerpt from the above article:

"Well, it so happens Sanofi-Aventis – the world’s largest vaccine maker - is involved in several partnerships under which the company may be required to pay a total of $39 million from 2008 to 2013.  Gorski’s employer, Wayne State University, is one of the partners, and he is conducting a clinical trial of one of the company’s drugs."

Below is a small excerpt from this article on Shantha:

"Shantha, was acquired by Sanofi Pasteur Holding in 2009, is a biotechnology pioneer from the emerging countries.  Shantha’s products complement Sanofi Pasteur’s portfolio. Besides Shan5™, three of its vaccines are WHO-prequalified: Shanchol™ cholera vaccine, Shanvac-B ® hepatitis B vaccine and ShanTT™ tetanus vaccine. Sanofi Pasteur and Shantha are also developing a new vaccine against rotavirus and a pediatric combination vaccine based on Shan5™, which will incorporate Sanofi Pasteur’s Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) in order to secure polio eradication".

Shantha’s Investigational Rotavirus Vaccine Entered Phase III Clinical Trials in India on October 14, 2014.

Here's a quote as found in the above article, “We aim to provide an affordable vaccine to meet the still significant medical need in emerging markets, like India, and through partnerships with organizations like Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance”, commented Olivier Charmeil, Sanofi Pasteur’s President & CEO. “Sanofi Pasteur wants to be in the position to target a major role in the growing rotavirus market in developing countries, with a key focus on the Gavi market, in public markets for non-Gavi countries, as well as private segments in emerging markets.”"

Immediately following this quote, the article says, "The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that vaccination with rotavirus vaccines should be included in all national immunization programs.  Gavi, has established an accelerated vaccine introduction initiative with the objective of driving the sustainable introduction of rotavirus vaccine in 30 Gavi-eligible countries by 2015.  In addition, PATH, an international, non-profit organization to improve public health, is working to accelerate access to rotavirus vaccines and sustain their implementation and use in countries where children need them most urgently."

IMO, this is hard proof that Gorski (Orca) and Gorski's employer, Wayne State University has a financial interest in the vaccine and pharma industries, and it connects them to the vaccinations given in the small town of Mexico.

I have more evidence which brings the entire site of scienceblogs.com into question, if this doesn't convince you.  Scienceblogs.com has a connection to GE Healthcare, the United Nations, and other governmental agencies.  I can even connect that site to Shantha.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1864 on: August 25, 2015, 02:14:30 AM »
Below is a small excerpt from the above article:

"Well, it so happens Sanofi-Aventis – the world’s largest vaccine maker - is involved in several partnerships under which the company may be required to pay a total of $39 million from 2008 to 2013.  Gorski’s employer, Wayne State University, is one of the partners, and he is conducting a clinical trial of one of the company’s drugs."

Below is a small excerpt from this article on Shantha:

"Shantha, was acquired by Sanofi Pasteur Holding in 2009, is a biotechnology pioneer from the emerging countries.  Shantha’s products complement Sanofi Pasteur’s portfolio. Besides Shan5™, three of its vaccines are WHO-prequalified: Shanchol™ cholera vaccine, Shanvac-B ® hepatitis B vaccine and ShanTT™ tetanus vaccine. Sanofi Pasteur and Shantha are also developing a new vaccine against rotavirus and a pediatric combination vaccine based on Shan5™, which will incorporate Sanofi Pasteur’s Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) in order to secure polio eradication".

Shantha’s Investigational Rotavirus Vaccine Entered Phase III Clinical Trials in India on October 14, 2014.

Here's a quote as found in the above article, “We aim to provide an affordable vaccine to meet the still significant medical need in emerging markets, like India, and through partnerships with organizations like Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance”, commented Olivier Charmeil, Sanofi Pasteur’s President & CEO. “Sanofi Pasteur wants to be in the position to target a major role in the growing rotavirus market in developing countries, with a key focus on the Gavi market, in public markets for non-Gavi countries, as well as private segments in emerging markets.”

Immediately following this quote, the article says, "The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that vaccination with rotavirus vaccines should be included in all national immunization programs.  Gavi, has established an accelerated vaccine introduction initiative with the objective of driving the sustainable introduction of rotavirus vaccine in 30 Gavi-eligible countries by 2015.  In addition, PATH, an international, non-profit organization to improve public health, is working to accelerate access to rotavirus vaccines and sustain their implementation and use in countries where children need them most urgently."

IMO, this is hard proof that Gorski (Orca) and Gorski's employer, Wayne State University has a financial interest in the vaccine and pharma industries, and it connects them to the vaccinations given in the small town of Mexico.

I have more evidence which brings the entire site of scienceblogs.com into question, if this doesn't convince you.  Scienceblogs.com has a connection to GE Healthcare, the United Nations, and other governmental agencies.  I can even connect that site to Shantha.

Gravock
Yet who is publishing verifiable information about the incident and the actual cause, and who is not?  Do you have actual evidence that the claimed cause:  sepsis caused by bacterial infection is not what actually sickened and killed those poor children?

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1865 on: August 25, 2015, 02:22:07 AM »
Yet who is publishing verifiable information about the incident and the actual cause, and who is not?  Do you have actual evidence that the claimed cause:  sepsis caused by bacterial infection is not what actually sickened and killed those poor children?

MarkE, those children were not sick prior to the vaccinations.  They either became sick or died after they were given the vaccinations.  Regardless of the cause, it makes the vaccine industry itself look really bad, and those who have a financial interest in the vaccine industry will say and do anything for damage control in order to protect their interests.  I would also like to add that WHO itself is a joke and is constantly being tied to evil and wrong doings.  MarkE, you're a troll in alternative energy, as Gorski is a troll in the pharma industry.  You should stop hitting the epic fail button on your keyboard.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1866 on: August 25, 2015, 03:08:05 AM »
Reno County Health Department says the majority of whooping cough cases were found in vaccinated individuals

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1867 on: August 25, 2015, 03:22:00 AM »
MarkE, those children were not sick prior to the vaccinations.  They either became sick or died after they were given the vaccinations.  Regardless of the cause, it makes the vaccine industry itself look really bad, and those who have a financial interest in the vaccine industry will say and do anything for damage control in order to protect their interests.  I would also like to add that WHO itself is a joke and is constantly being tied to evil and wrong doings.  MarkE, you're a troll in alternative energy, as Gorski is a troll in the pharma industry.  You should stop hitting the epic fail button on your keyboard.

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A terrible tragedy has occurred.  Rational and moral people should be motivated to finding the root cause so that effective measures can be taken to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.  Finding the root cause requires calmly finding and evaluating the pertinent facts. 

If as Gorski asserts the injuries and death were caused by sepsis, then the appropriate corrective measures will be to change practices and/or formulations to better resist and / or detect bacterial build-up before use.  If the toxicity was from the vaccination formulations themselves, then here is your chance to try and prove that.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1868 on: August 25, 2015, 04:17:29 AM »
A terrible tragedy has occurred.  Rational and moral people should be motivated to finding the root cause so that effective measures can be taken to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.  Finding the root cause requires calmly finding and evaluating the pertinent facts. 

If as Gorski asserts the injuries and death were caused by sepsis, then the appropriate corrective measures will be to change practices and/or formulations to better resist and / or detect bacterial build-up before use.  If the toxicity was from the vaccination formulations themselves, then here is your chance to try and prove that.

Tainted vaccines has happened over and over and over again.  Cancer viruses, bacteria, std's, parasites, etc are in the vaccines along with heavy metals and drugs to burn out a persons natural immune system.  I can assure you whatever may have caused the illnesses and deaths wasn't an accident.  It's more like, irrational and immoral people are motivated to downplay and to cover up the root cause in order to protect their interests and to further their own hidden agenda.  The only thing you know how to do is to invert the truth.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1869 on: August 25, 2015, 05:07:42 AM »
Tainted vaccines has happened over and over and over again.  Cancer viruses, bacteria, std's, parasites, etc are in the vaccines along with heavy metals and drugs to burn out a persons natural immune system.  I can assure you whatever may have caused the illnesses and deaths wasn't an accident.  It's more like, irrational and immoral people are motivated to downplay and to cover up the root cause in order to protect their interests and to further their own hidden agenda.  The only thing you know how to do is to invert the truth.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1870 on: August 25, 2015, 05:39:30 AM »
Get help.

Your response MarkE falls within the category of
a desperate 'call for help' yourself. Desperate!

Have no fear, help is being administered and will
in due time prove effective.  Your resistance to
TRUTH need not necessarily be Terminal.

Your eyes too will be opened!

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1871 on: August 25, 2015, 05:45:14 AM »
Get help.

No, it is you who needs help for denying what is before your own eyes in plain sight.  This is known as being willfully ignorant, and you have this concept perfected.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #1872 on: August 25, 2015, 07:50:01 AM »
MarkEs' answers are degrading...I saw him dissecting comments left and right to now quoting big chucks of comments from others and responding with very little vague stuff stuff. Or maybe his specialty is just electronics and has NO business thinking outside the box. :) but those lazy answers just need a little more energy in it lol they just not cut it to quote all of the guys responds to just give a one liner...lol, that's just iffy to say the least lol

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« Reply #1873 on: August 26, 2015, 04:44:25 AM »
MarkEs' answers are degrading...I saw him dissecting comments left and right to now quoting big chucks of comments from others and responding with very little vague stuff stuff. Or maybe his specialty is just electronics and has NO business thinking outside the box. :) but those lazy answers just need a little more energy in it lol they just not cut it to quote all of the guys responds to just give a one liner...lol, that's just iffy to say the least lol

How would you know?  You don't believe that JB Weld (Their under water variant) works under water when all of the tests and results prove otherwise?
You call that open minded?  The facts are in the links I had posted but yet you still deny it.  Just try opening your mind to new ideas Joel.

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