Cookies-law

Cookies help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
http://www.overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please leave this website now. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

Poplamp

poplamp

CCTool

CCTool

LEDTVforSale

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

OverUnity Book

overunity principles book

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

movieclipsfree

movie clips free

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 81724
  • *Latest: Muneel

  • *Total Posts: 485555
  • *Total Topics: 14274
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 4
  • *Guests: 148
  • *Total: 152

Facebook

Author Topic: OverUnity Does Not Exist!  (Read 15870 times)

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3467
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2014, 10:10:07 PM »
Overunity is impossible , that's a fact . However this doesn't mean free energy is impossible, and it even doesn't mean free energy with amplification is impossible. You can test it yourself, but it's not recommended.... for example solar panel can be have rised power output if you use a lens to focus more sun rays on it.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2014, 10:10:07 PM »

Offline Nink

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2014, 04:04:37 AM »
Overunity is impossible , that's a fact . However this doesn't mean free energy is impossible, and it even doesn't mean free energy with amplification is impossible. You can test it yourself, but it's not recommended.... for example solar panel can be have rised power output if you use a lens to focus more sun rays on it.

Hi Forest

I am not sure i understand you definition of amplification or the correlation you have provided with the ability to increase the solar energy created through magnification.   Example if i took a magnifying  glass with circumference x and used this to concentrate solar rays onto a small solar cell i would generate y watts.  If i took a large solar cell of circumference x i would generate z watts. The larger solar cell would actually generate more energy than the smaller solar cell with a magnifying lens of the same circumference as we would obtain losses in the processes. So z>y 

 I realize there is value in using low cost parabolic mirrors and water cooled solar cells due to the manufacturing costs of the cells but I don't  actually see any amplification of energy that occurred in your example. 

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8362
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2014, 04:17:39 AM »
Hi Forest

I am not sure i understand you definition of amplification or the correlation you have provided with the ability to increase the solar energy created through magnification.   Example if i took a magnifying  glass with circumference x and used this to concentrate solar rays onto a small solar cell i would generate y watts.  If i took a large solar cell of circumference x i would generate z watts. The larger solar cell would actually generate more energy than the smaller solar cell with a magnifying lens of the same circumference as we would obtain losses in the processes. So z>y 

 I realize there is value in using low cost parabolic mirrors and water cooled solar cells due to the manufacturing costs of the cells but I don't  actually see any amplification of energy that occurred in your example.

I agree as I have tried this.  A magnifying lens simply gathers available light and concentrates it into a smaller area.  Due to the losses associated with using a lens, you actually get a little less output while doing this.

Bill

Offline hoptoad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 992
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2014, 12:13:54 PM »
snip...
PS
Toad good to see you around


Likewise Chet ..... KneeDeep.


I never really left, but I'm just a silent observer for the most part, these days. Still, it's that time of year, and the pulse motor build offs, as always, attracts my attention. So I've been lurking in the pond a little more regularly lately, to see what goodies are up for display.


These pulse motor build offs are like my version of a Xmas party. I can't wait to see the variety of builds this year. With 3D printing taking off in a big way, I won't be surprised to see a few rigs hot off the printing press!


Cheers.


Offline rods

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 09:57:33 PM »
I agree, Overunity is impossible, BUT, Mechanical advantage is easy.I have a lever inside a frame. The fulcrum is 2" from the end of the lever which is connected to a homebuilt crankshaft, on the crankshaft I have a 14" diameter 40lb flywheel. the total length of the lever is 50" This results in a mechanical of 25-1, what I need to do is attach a motor to the long end of the lever to keep it moving around 100 times per minute. Any ideas would be welcome, The intent is to belt drive a 40 kw generator from  the crankshaft.
Yes it will work. I can move the lever by hand to get 50 rpms on the crankshaft with only 1-2 lbs of pressure on the lever, also 5 lbs of lift on the lever generates over 100 lbs of torque on the end of the crankshaft.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 09:57:33 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Nink

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 11:51:15 PM »
@Rods Cool:  "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." - Archimedes

Offline rods

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 12:56:37 AM »
Yep, but I'm not interested in moving the world, just want to move the lever at speed.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 12:56:37 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3467
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2014, 01:57:04 PM »
What I'm trying to say is that todays marvels  are tomorrow common used tools ;-)
Example : If somebody once invent a black plate and this black plate is capturing sun rays not just visible but in all spectrum and generate tremendous amount of electricity per square meter you would say it's a hoax, but soon after scientific papers it become obvious tool. Point of view is changed everyday...
I would not be surprised if soon scientists prove we are not generating even a single watt of electricity....all is coming to us from sun and we only use "lens" to capture more...
So, yes oveunity is not possible because every device has looses, but we can build devices like heat pump acting on natural electricity...

Offline Nink

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 04:58:45 PM »
Completely agree will continue to get closer to 100%'efficiency but we will never achieve 101%

Offline myenergetic

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 08:34:49 PM »
I agree, Overunity is impossible, BUT, Mechanical advantage is easy.I have a lever inside a frame. The fulcrum is 2" from the end of the lever which is connected to a homebuilt crankshaft, on the crankshaft I have a 14" diameter 40lb flywheel. the total length of the lever is 50" This results in a mechanical of 25-1, what I need to do is attach a motor to the long end of the lever to keep it moving around 100 times per minute. Any ideas would be welcome, The intent is to belt drive a 40 kw generator from  the crankshaft.
Yes it will work. I can move the lever by hand to get 50 rpms on the crankshaft with only 1-2 lbs of pressure on the lever, also 5 lbs of lift on the lever generates over 100 lbs of torque on the end of the crankshaft.

Hi rods

You seem to be well aware of what you are claiming!!!

Please see the link and help this poor guy who spent most of his saving in your Mechanical easy advantage idea. :'(
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmXBebQzMyQ

jj

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 08:34:49 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Nink

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2014, 09:39:11 PM »
Hi rods

You seem to be well aware of what you are claiming!!!

Please see the link and help this poor guy who spent most of his saving in your Mechanical easy advantage idea. :'(
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmXBebQzMyQ

jj

I am amazed people keep building these things (and at such a large scale). Back to Archimedes,  3rd grade physics and I hate to do this, Bill Nye the Science Guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7tGosXM58

Offline rods

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2014, 11:58:39 AM »
Seems there are more people here who are willing to fight against the idea of free energy than are willing to help. Wonder how many oil barons are trolling this site? The principal behind my idea is simply a lever moving at speed. I know it will work, have proved it already. only thing I haven't done yet is to apply a motor to the lever, I have an idea that maybe a pair of roller chanes powered by a small motor with a connector rod connected between them and to the lever might work, but I would rather try a linear motor if I could find one fast enough and with a 100% duty cycle.
I know that a system of pulleys will not power a generator, Pulleys can be used to reduce speed and increase torque, or increase speed and lessen torque. However I also know that a lever mounted properly can be used to increase torque. The machine is so simple that any backyard tinkerer  can make it. I have no intentions of making money from this machine, and when I get it running I plan to post plans and video here and on other sites. It means good bye to all current energy producers, oil, coal ect. Once perfected the device can be scaled down or up, 10 kw or multimegawatts is possible. In a 40 kw model it can be placed in a back yard and used to power a house and private garage. as a 500 kw model it would power an apartment building. No more weather related blackouts because no more transmission lines. In time someone will shorten the lever, install a larger motor, a 200kw generator and place it under the hood of a vehicle, because once started the generator can be made self running simply by switching the motor to run off the generator.
All the parts for 40kw are off the shelf and the entire build is less than $2000.00


Offline Nink

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2014, 01:50:40 PM »
Rods I am not sure I understand your idea. Do you have a PDF video picture plans etc.  Whatever it is you are thinking why not build it at a very small scale on your desk for $20 in a few hours versus $2000 in ???   If it doesnt work at a small scale it won't work at a large scale.  TinselKoala built a linear motor last week for free with photosensors and parts he had laying around.  I made one as well using a hall switch in about 5 minutes. You can buy a push solenoid and a spring for $2 .......

Build a small model and prove that Overunity does not exist.

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3467
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2014, 08:52:26 PM »
Rods I am not sure I understand your idea. Do you have a PDF video picture plans etc.  Whatever it is you are thinking why not build it at a very small scale on your desk for $20 in a few hours versus $2000 in ???   If it doesnt work at a small scale it won't work at a large scale.  TinselKoala built a linear motor last week for free with photosensors and parts he had laying around.  I made one as well using a hall switch in about 5 minutes. You can buy a push solenoid and a spring for $2 .......

Build a small model and prove that Overunity does not exist.


You cannot prove something DOES NOT EXIST , like you cannot prove a theory is right, because a SINGLE contradition makes it wrong. I see many many devices pop up every day whih can be put into Overunity class

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline Tito L. Oracion

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2110
Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2014, 03:11:54 AM »
Rods I am not sure I understand your idea. Do you have a PDF video picture plans etc.  Whatever it is you are thinking why not build it at a very small scale on your desk for $20 in a few hours versus $2000 in ???   If it doesnt work at a small scale it won't work at a large scale.  TinselKoala built a linear motor last week for free with photosensors and parts he had laying around.  I made one as well using a hall switch in about 5 minutes. You can buy a push solenoid and a spring for $2 .......

Build a small model and prove that Overunity does not exist.


Ya! i believe you, overunity does not exist!  >:(
Ya!, i believe also the sun does not exist.


and i believe also that gravity and magnetic field are visible. :o


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: OverUnity Does Not Exist!
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2014, 03:11:54 AM »

 

Share this topic to your favourite Social and Bookmark site

Please SHARE this topic at: