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Offline pavqw

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Electro static propulsion
« on: November 16, 2014, 09:06:03 PM »
Why we can't use electro static propulsion and replace gravity with static charge?

Yes, this is similar technique as well known lifters. But are there more effective electro static generators?
If so, why we do not use it?

I believe that this propulsion is hidden from our eyes for years. If simple adhesive tape, wool clothes, etc can make enough charge to levitate light things, why we can't create it in much greater extent with electricity?
It is very simple mechanism, yet well known effect, but unused pracically to these days.

Did you thought about boosting such effect? What about special atmosphere (using a gas)? What about increasing atmosphere temperature?
Pre-ionization air with lasers or other methods?

Can you describe limitations of this propulsion?

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Electro static propulsion
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Offline Madeo

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 09:55:10 PM »
You should study LIFTERS  then.   I really think it has a lot of potential, but i'm more interested in getting energy first.

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Offline pavqw

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 11:54:10 AM »
Yes, I study lifters too. I plan to build remotely controllable lifter with its power supply, batteries, etc.
Problem is too much weight, which should be reduced by helium or other gas until great efficiency from the lifter is gained.
Problem is with gas container, with normal baloon it will last for cca 7 hours which is not very good.

Offline Madeo

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 02:17:42 AM »
Joseph newman actually have a demo lifting a weighted balloon. He used a coil wrapped around the balloon enough that it would sink to the ground. By applying voltage to it, he demonstrated that it would float back in the air and orient itself with respect to the earth's magnetic field. You'll find a short clip of it in youtube usually in the same video as his newman motor. 


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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 07:10:17 AM »
Why we can't use electro static propulsion and replace gravity with static charge?

Yes, this is similar technique as well known lifters. But are there more effective electro static generators?
If so, why we do not use it?

I believe that this propulsion is hidden from our eyes for years. If simple adhesive tape, wool clothes, etc can make enough charge to levitate light things, why we can't create it in much greater extent with electricity?
It is very simple mechanism, yet well known effect, but unused pracically to these days.

Did you thought about boosting such effect? What about special atmosphere (using a gas)? What about increasing atmosphere temperature?
Pre-ionization air with lasers or other methods?

Can you describe limitations of this propulsion?


There is a chance that you are not aware of the ELECTROGRAVITY research done and published by T. Townsend Brown beginning round about 1930 or so.

Last I looked, not too long ago, there was plenty of information available on the net if a search is made.


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CANGAS 98

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Re: Electro static propulsion
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Offline pavqw

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 08:15:38 PM »
So I have did few tests with assymetric capacitor... Lot of ozone created :o
But I am able to create some force that it can change weight for few grams even that measurement tool is 20cm away. Very interesting.

Also I am able to change weight of a big 1m paper box (weight measured 1m away from the device - under the box). The device was attached to top part of the box.
Weight differences was just 1 gram.

This phenomenon works even with Symetric capacitor!
For example, I can move whole electrolytic capacitor between positive to negative terminal only by starting the device.

And lastly, I am able to attract or pull away light objects with only positive terminal (no negative terminal wired out from HV transformer).
Attraction force and orientation can be changed by frequency (I've tried frequencies mostly between 2KHz to 25KHz).

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 09:15:37 PM »
u should make a video and post it.  I am quite interested on this topic.  I suspected that high voltage is related to gravity just as high current is related to magnetism.

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Offline pavqw

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 06:33:32 PM »
I will try to record this phenomenon.
All in all, we can't be sure whether something is caused by ion wind or other force. Problem is, that ion wind can be byproduct for e.g. gravitational space difference or it is main part of the force or it is only another force among other, unknown yet.

Here is very interesting article: http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/469/2154/20120623
This one finally tells us, that ion thruster are definitively worth to study and that there is very big potential.
From this research it is clear, that efficiency can much greater than known propulsion systems.
Only problem is - Voltage. We should check, how to make ultra high voltage with less effort at great efficiency.

Also I believe, that ion thruster efficiency can be boosted with ion accelerator very well. In reality, even NASA's ion thruster in Deep Space 1 module has such accelerator. But its propelant is Xenon instead of Air so it can be used anywhere in our cosmos.
I guess that with higher acceleration we should be able to collide propelant molecules to much better extent.
So then even with voltage level around 20kV we could be able to get at least few Newtons. DS1 is capable of approx. 0.5N which is very poor, especially in earth's gravity.

So ion thrusters are in reality very primitive, but public reasarch is missing or is hidden from our eyes.
We are able to get lifting force with few miliwatts. But what about few kW? We can theorethically develop enormous forces.

Problem is, that higher thrust you need, bigger air gap is required, but then higher voltage is needed as well.
So once we are able to develop extreme high voltages, this propulsion can be used with perfect efficiency and results.

I guess, that Megavolts, superconductors for transformers and ion acceleration magnetic field would be ideal.

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2014, 06:24:29 AM »
It is just actually a matter of weight and wait. :o

well, if you're over weight you need a lot of energy to lift. ;D


HAVE YOU STUDY THE EFFECT OF CENTRIFUGAL FORCE?. THAT IS THE LONG TIME SECRET. ;) 8)


IN ELECTRICITY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A COUNTER REFELLING ACTION TO FIGHT THE GRAVITY OF THE EARTH TO LIFT SOMETHING. :o


WHY TESLA IS FUN OF DOING VERY HIGH VOLTAGES. DO YOU THINK HE DID NOT DISCOVER ANTI GRAVITY? ::)   

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 05:37:23 PM »
Dear All.

It started with this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YreCJDvIX2Q

I tried a replication.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-AqL-8RGNc

So did Lidmotor. With better success!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S072ScKjx8s

And finally...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiqEtigpJaI

A one winged Gnat develops more power !! Enjoy.

Cheers Grum.

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Offline ramset

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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2015, 10:20:39 PM »
A wounded Gnat is More powerful ??   :'(

Nice score on that generator tho .. and definitely Kudos for perseverance on the Static motor fake  ...



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Re: Electro static propulsion
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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2015, 09:59:19 PM »
works on the same principle as a Lifter, built a few of those in my time lol


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Re: Electro static propulsion
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2015, 01:13:26 PM »
works on the same principle as a Lifter, built a few of those in my time lol



Oh, and probably used them in those famous cruises to the stars. :D

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