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TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2014, 03:52:20 AM »
Hi All,

Got my magnets in today, moving very fast to get this running soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyhFmVvvNUg

Tom

MarkE

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2014, 04:03:09 AM »
Tommey it looks like a nice build.

MileHigh

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2014, 08:49:00 AM »
Tommey, I second that, it's starting to look like an electric airplane motor.

I will plant a seed for next year's PMBO.  It would be all about getting mechanical work out of your pulse motor.  People could standardize on a standard building brick as the weight to lift up.  Say that you have to lift the brick up by one-half meter in height.

So you need to figure out a way to attach a line to the brick.  Assume that everybody will be able to weigh their bricks.  Then you need to figure out a way to lift the brick.  For example, you could get fishing line and some pulley wheels at a hobby shop and make your own pulley system that connects to the shaft of the pulse motor.

You could measure your lift time, and your power/energy requirements and try to make your motor as efficient as possible.  It would be quite a bit of a challenge.  You would probably want to design a pulse motor that can generate some real torque, but that's not absolutely necessary.

<pulse motor> -> <pulley or other lifting system with a certain mechanical advantage> -> <lift a brick up by one-half meter.>

MarkE

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2014, 09:19:24 AM »
Tommey, I second that, it's starting to look like an electric airplane motor.

I will plant a seed for next year's PMBO.  It would be all about getting mechanical work out of your pulse motor.  People could standardize on a standard building brick as the weight to lift up.  Say that you have to lift the brick up by one-half meter in height.

So you need to figure out a way to attach a line to the brick.  Assume that everybody will be able to weigh their bricks.  Then you need to figure out a way to lift the brick.  For example, you could get fishing line and some pulley wheels at a hobby shop and make your own pulley system that connects to the shaft of the pulse motor.

You could measure your lift time, and your power/energy requirements and try to make your motor as efficient as possible.  It would be quite a bit of a challenge.  You would probably want to design a pulse motor that can generate some real torque, but that's not absolutely necessary.

<pulse motor> -> <pulley or other lifting system with a certain mechanical advantage> -> <lift a brick up by one meter.>
I will require that "for safety" the maximum net vertical acceleration be held to +/-0.5g.  I will then infuse my set-up with an advanced technology known to the privileged few as a counter weight.  TK probably knows why I must insist on the safety precaution.

 

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »
I have an idea for a pulse motor based on GAP technology and my magnet core output coil. First take a look at the power side:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxrJoGZy1to
 
The following video on the "Neutral Zone" is essential for what comes next. Note the width of the "Neutral Zone" at 2:30:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvP7VuFmNo&list=FL3v-1RhhS50L5H2_FYFFBqQ
 
Now notice at :46 seconds into Konzen's video, a shorted magnet backed coil identical to the GAP power coils in the first video that Doug carefully positions in the "Neutral Zone" to achieve "Lenz Propulsion:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaEdGPO7C8&list=UUQ6H_iTqiOiZHbdU-Rjf_eg&index=1
 
The power coils and the output coils would be identical in this pulse motor. Magnetite cores, bifilar coils backed by magnets. The rotor N facing out monopole; The circuit Hall sensor Mosfet.
 
Here's what kEhYo has to say about his GAP motor:
 
"In this short clip I am testing this new setup according to Gap-Power_com experiments. The RPM here is 1250, the power is being supplied by 12V 7.5 AHr battery. The current draw is measured as a voltage drop on 0.1 Ohm shunt resistor and its value is 370 mA maximum. There are 6 N52 neodymium magnets on the rotor, the driving coils are bilfilar in series, 2 in series, 4 Ohms total resistance and about 15 mH inductance together. A Hall sensor turns on a MOSFET transistor on an approaching magnet to neutralize repelling force from the stack of magnets behind the driving coils that push the rotor at Top Dead Center when the power is off. In that moment the coil becomes a generator coil as the core (magnetite powder + iron powder + resin) switches polarity and returns much of the energy back to the battery. This can be seen on the scope trace as the lover curve bump, below the marker line. It seems to be a very efficient motor, the cores do not heat up, more testing to come".
 
The point in bold strike is that the power output has nothing to do with rotor induction. The power coil is bifilar. One strand for power the other for output. The power coils are wired in series.
 
The magnet backed output coils would be wired series bifilar, and positioned in the neutral zone to generate "Lenz Propulsion". The output coil leads would be connected to a capacitor and fast switching diode in series. The output would generate from the backing magnet field oscillation over the series bifilar coil windings and be apart from but coupled with rotor induction. This is an overunity concept.
 
The additional feature of this simple design is that the coils can be switched from power to output and vice versa as desired.

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2014, 02:28:49 AM »
Hi All,

I added a few more part to this build today, just about ready for me to make the coils next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDyYrCgkqv8

Tom
 

shylo

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2014, 11:49:39 PM »
Hi Tom, Very nice work.
Are you saying that only 2 cylinders will fire at a time?
Sorry I can't ask at "OUR"
Thanks artv

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2014, 12:53:02 AM »
Hi shylo,

 Well, something like that. Each firing will drive the piston down to a 45 deg rotation to allow the next firing to happen, in others words to fully rotate the motor 360 deg 8 pulse is needed.

Tom...

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2014, 12:57:40 AM »

shylo

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2014, 01:30:06 PM »
Hi Tom ,I tried to watch the 2 videos you just linked ,but it says you removed them?
artv

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2014, 02:09:37 PM »
Hi Shylo.

 Sorry, but I got some nasty comments and thought it would be best to just remove my account.

I have better things to do then put up with jerks!

I really didn't expect them, so I will only put up my finished PMBO before Dec. 14th...

Tom

markdansie

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #56 on: November 28, 2014, 02:51:31 PM »
Hi :Boss: long time no hear, I thought it might be you. I hope things are going well for you at last. Thanks for the nice comment, but there are probably just as many people or more, who might donate to a fund to _prevent_ me from retrieving my gear and being more active! Certainly I get more insults and disrespect here than the "average bear" gets.   ;)

Chet, you are talking about driving with a trailer into the Toronto area in the coldest winter we've had in a while? Sleeping in your car? You could easily get buried in the snow, frozen to death on the highway. And who knows what will happen at the Customs entry point. I'd feel much better if the stuff could just be shipped directly from Toronto by a Customs broker/shipping company like Kuhn&Nagel. This might cost a bit more, but it will avoid you having to deal with all that snow and the terrible traffic along the Canadian 401 "freeway" which is the most ridiculous, traffic-congested road I have ever been on. Ten lanes, count'em, ten, in either direction (out near Pearson Airport anyhow) and even in good weather often bumper-to-bumper stop-and-go. They even have tow-trucks pre-positioned in clusters along that highway so that wrecks and stalls can be cleared quickly enough so that people don't freeze to death in their cars. But I just don't know what to expect, maybe the trailer idea is better after all, if the weather is good.
Fortunately there is a Motel 6 (my choice for travel accommodations) with reasonable rates a few miles west of the location at the intersection of Winston Churchill street and the 401. This is on the west side of Toronto, though, and the GDS location in Oshawa is beyond the east side of Toronto, at least an hour, probably more like 90 minutes, of drive time away.
My offer also still stands TK and I am willing to contribute financially to whoever can collect your goods for fuel and some accommodation. I would do it myself if I was still stateside. So whatever gets organised give me an account to send the funds to or I can Western Union it
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

ramset

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2014, 04:35:18 PM »
Tommey
That is very sad Indeed.
some people love watching the Moment by moment building and your real friends will miss that
 however your real friends and well wishers would still comment in these forums
on these threads .
 Perhaps you can do what others do and  "Comments disabled" ??

don't let a little bit spoil the whole...


@Mr.Dansie
please forward a contact to ChetKremens@Gmail.com
I will keep you in the loop and gladly accept your help or anyone else interested.



respectfully
Chet







TinselKoala

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2014, 04:50:18 PM »
Hi Shylo.

 Sorry, but I got some nasty comments and thought it would be best to just remove my account.

I have better things to do then put up with jerks!

I really didn't expect them, so I will only put up my finished PMBO before Dec. 14th...

Tom
Wow, Tom, that's too bad, I myself think you are doing good work and I was following your radial motor with great interest. It gave me a couple of great ideas, I'd like to build a horizontally-opposed variant using a Scotch Yoke and double-eccentric flywheel cam system along with the linear alternator-drive coil system. The idea to switch coils from driving to generating is a great one and only fully possible with multiple, dual purpose coils like you are developing. Put a nice flywheel on that sucker and you can drive with three coils and generate with five, rolling around the circle, and the flywheel will take up the slack...

I get all kinds of trolls on my YT videos too... can you imagine, I already got two "thumbs downs" on a video I just posted last night, that does nothing more than show my "perpendupetulum" self-starting with a pingpong ball bob! It's a wonder to me how anyone could subscribe to my channel, just so that they can be notified when I post a new video, so that they can drive by and leave a "thumbs down" vote without commenting. I enjoy putting the trolls down though. What has made me consider removing my account and all of my nearly 700 videos is the stupid broken Google+ screwed up commenting system.

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2014, 04:58:00 PM »
Mark, please check your PMs, thanks very much!!