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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 608372 times)

gyulasun

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #900 on: June 23, 2015, 09:52:27 PM »

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I would guess this Iron polymer would be non conductive?
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Hi Luc,

Here is some info on this interesting material, it turns out as non conductive and this means eddy current losses should be minimal:

http://www.proto-pasta.com/pages/magnetic-iron-pla#FEconductive 

Scroll up or down on that page to learn about some more info on it. Basically it is fine ground iron powder embedded in PLA.

Regarding its possible permeability value, normally a ring core ought to be made and wind say 10 turns and measure the inductance and then get permeability from formula. There is software for it on the web. In case of a rod shape, first an air cored coil is to be made, then insert the iron PLA core and see the increase in inductance.

EDIT:  A possible drawback for such a ferromagnetic core may be its unknown hysteresis behaviour (this is connected with remanence magnetism) and its relatively low operating temperature (not higher than say 100-130 degree C) compared to normal ferrite or laminated cores.

Gyula

gotoluc

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #901 on: June 24, 2015, 05:24:18 AM »
Thanks for the extra details Gyula.

I really like the idea and new design possibilities this stuff has.

Luc

Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #902 on: June 24, 2015, 09:14:54 AM »
That's a great find. Thanks Gyula

l0stf0x

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #903 on: June 28, 2015, 08:42:26 PM »
So Acording the new diagram and concept, The old generator arrangement probably was like that. what you think?




ATOM1

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #904 on: June 30, 2015, 12:32:23 PM »
? SELF RUNNING ?

50% GOES TO BACK EMF 50% TO THE LOAD TOTTAL NET FREE ENERGY = 0 %  Lets say the back emf is what spins it minus the resistance on the system say 10% it will only last 100 seconds than it will stop !

ATOM1

albator10

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #905 on: June 30, 2015, 04:39:09 PM »
So Acording the new diagram and concept, The old generator arrangement probably was like that. what you think?

What your are showing to us is a stepper motor !

ATOM1

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #906 on: June 30, 2015, 04:54:04 PM »
Where is its formula ?????

ATOM1

l0stf0x

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #907 on: June 30, 2015, 05:56:34 PM »
? SELF RUNNING ?

50% GOES TO BACK EMF 50% TO THE LOAD TOTTAL NET FREE ENERGY = 0 %  Lets say the back emf is what spins it minus the resistance on the system say 10% it will only last 100 seconds than it will stop !

ATOM1

HELLO!!!!  this is not a motor is a gen with no B.emf.
And what you mean self running? you have to drive it with motor..


l0stf0x

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #908 on: June 30, 2015, 05:58:07 PM »
What your are showing to us is a stepper motor !

Look at it again, its a gen!! not a motor! 1 coil only all around or many in series..

remember the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY

ATOM1

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #909 on: June 30, 2015, 06:14:34 PM »
That video is nuts ............ honestly its all a freak show ! it does not work like that !

ATOM1 

waleedsaleem

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #910 on: July 10, 2015, 09:43:45 PM »
Hi Syair,
Can you post new video please
Regards. ;)

sm0ky2

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #911 on: July 11, 2015, 04:23:45 AM »
its' hard to see much with the crappy videos, and mostly time is wasted connecting wires and pointless activities instead of demonstrating the device...

But what it looks like to me, is 160-400 Watts of power produced from a hand-crank. moving slowly at that..
which is actually quite a feat.

let's hope this guy produces a better quality demonstration so we can really see what's going on here.

Back-EMF from motors and generators accounts for most of our system losses. If we had a way to cancel those effects, the result would be an efficiency increase unprecedented in electrical theory.

albator10

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #912 on: July 12, 2015, 07:45:09 PM »
Look at it again, its a gen!! not a motor! 1 coil only all around or many in series..

remember the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY

I know that it is a generator, not a motor, but a lot of motor can become generator by simply  make it turn by another motor

Have you tried to turn a stepper motor into a generator ?

Very interesting how powerfull generator they are (Not OU)

l0stf0x

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #913 on: July 15, 2015, 12:58:32 PM »
I know that it is a generator, not a motor, but a lot of motor can become generator by simply  make it turn by another motor

Have you tried to turn a stepper motor into a generator ?

Very interesting how powerfull generator they are (Not OU)

Who said anything about steper motor.. A steper motor configuration is totaly diferent than my diagram.
Also if you study closely my diagram you will realise that it is a valiation of the same configuration with syairchairun design



waleedsaleem

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #914 on: July 28, 2015, 09:31:05 AM »
For the sample new gen effeciency 350%, more sample and done testing..


Dear syair;
Do you still use aluminum in this new design?