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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 348702 times)

Offline syairchairun

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2014, 02:43:26 PM »
hello everyone,
here in indonesia since new president was elected new hopes arise,hopely someone on top who have heart listen .here is another type of efficient/cheap/free/overun generator.
1. interview and demo ,senior journalist with the inventor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B23joN2ckM4

2. demo with goverment people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B23joN2ckM4

this forum link talk about the device
http://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/54111597c2cb1714498b456c/pertama-di-dunia-solusi-energi-generator-tanpa-bbm-buatan-putra-bangsa-indonesia/

inventor twitter
https://twitter.com/dickyzainal

andyou if look closely,guees what? it's similar with meissner  oscillator ?. no?
@ mod
would you please take this post to proper place.thank you

Itu sangat bagus Gan, Salam, semoga negara kita akan maju.


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Offline lasersaber

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2014, 08:13:16 PM »
@syairchairun


Thanks for responding.  Can you tell me if this is the same generator that you are using: eBay Link


Thanks,
LS
« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 03:34:49 AM by lasersaber »


Offline tinman

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2014, 01:31:37 AM »
If you watch the video very carefully, it looks like the generator power is simply operating a relay to supply grid power.
Especially the turn off delay. The generator seems to be fully stopped and it output is still running.
Probably converting the output to dc and filtering with a cap which increases the relay dropout delay.
 
I hope I'm wrong but it looks a bit odd! (video 1)
It is good to see some one else spotted the scam.
Flux gate alternators put out very little power , and still have the same lenz force effect as any other alternator per watt output. The gate plates carry the magnetic field, and the lenz force acts apon the plates as if they were the magnets them self .I see some great minds on this thread falling for this rubbish.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2014, 02:12:28 AM »
Before we collectively drop our pants and take a big stinking dump on this guy's work, I say we give him a chance. I've been in the FE movement for pretty close to 20 years now, and this guy is among the few who appear to have something viable and replicatable. Let's ask some more questions, get a few more videos and photos, and see if we can shake out all the facts and details. If he's faking it, we'll all know if fairly short order, at which point we can call "bombs away!" Until then, I hope we can all be polite and give him the benefit of the doubt.


Chris



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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2014, 03:44:15 AM »
@syairchairun,yoi gan betul bnget.mdah2an pula negara kita ga trgntung lgi sama bbm  :).
eniwe gan,email agan yg syairalamsyahrazab@yahoo.co.id aktif kaga? yg laen jga kyaknya nanyain hal yg sama. ane dah kirim email. email ane yg bebemc@c@@yahoo.co.id
maju terus gan pantang mundur!  ;)

your blue running generator in first n second video is same original ramadan design right?you showed on the 2 video (ramadan design= printed photocopy paper). and if im not wrong your design is an animated one on your computer right? can't wait to see your build  :) .
would you please also post here the ramadan original design? ( printed photocopy paper).

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2014, 03:44:15 AM »
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Offline syairchairun

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2014, 09:19:45 AM »
@syairchairun,yoi gan betul bnget.mdah2an pula negara kita ga trgntung lgi sama bbm  :).
eniwe gan,email agan yg syairalamsyahrazab@yahoo.co.id aktif kaga? yg laen jga kyaknya nanyain hal yg sama. ane dah kirim email. email ane yg bebemc@c@@yahoo.co.id
maju terus gan pantang mundur!  ;)

your blue running generator in first n second video is same original ramadan design right?you showed on the 2 video (ramadan design= printed photocopy paper). and if im not wrong your design is an animated one on your computer right? can't wait to see your build  :) .
would you please also post here the ramadan original design? ( printed photocopy paper).

Aktif itu gan, sekrang sih saya hanya menunggu izin dari pembuatnya ( Ramadan ), apa boleh untuk dishare, yang asli darinya itu yang 100rpm gan yang pertama x saya buat, tunggu aja saya akan kirm itu, sangat simple sih gan kerjnya.


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2014, 09:25:16 AM »
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Offline Marsing

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2014, 12:22:40 PM »
Aktif itu gan, sekrang sih saya hanya menunggu izin dari pembuatnya ( Ramadan ), apa boleh untuk dishare, yang asli darinya itu yang 100rpm gan yang pertama x saya buat, tunggu aja saya akan kirm itu, sangat simple sih gan kerjnya.

 :o , Alo gan,

mngkin lbh baik jk pernyataan diatas dlm bhs inggris utk mngobati rasa pensran sseorang yg tlah mminta kurng lebh 2x gan.  n tlng d share dsn jg klo dah dpt izin gan.

sukses slalu.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2014, 12:55:45 PM »

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2014, 01:29:44 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2014, 01:59:41 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2GUiV8Bf0&list=PL9lN82Fv_KyXbRPImaD74M6ucsQIMO3fr&index=3
maybe same principle  but using ac instead of magnet
That is a bearing motor-loads of amp's and heat,and very little torque.

Offline Cadman

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2014, 03:16:45 PM »
You may find this interesting.

Dr. Silvanus P. Thompson who was the president of the Institution of Electrical Engineers as well as a professor of physics at the London Technical College, wrote in one of his series of books on Dynamo Electrical Machinery that he and an associate were investigating this same type of set up, a stationary field and armature with rotating iron in between. He wrote that the preliminary results were very encouraging.

That was written sometime between 1893 and 1905.



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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2014, 06:42:20 PM »
I hate to sound like a know-it-all but I'm sure I know exactly how this works and why it takes so little effort to rotate it.

The generator he is using has a 4 pole/coil rotor already and the poles with coils bolt onto the shaft. Unbolt the coils and poles, machine the shaft to get a 1/2” or so of clearance for the new iron pole shoes and reattach the 4 poles.

The 4 new rotating iron pieces are like detached pole shoes. As they rotate, the inner and outer surface, in fact the whole shoe, takes on the polarity and strength of the coils beneath them, and greatly reduce the reluctance at the same time. They also rotate the field lines providing flux cutting just like the original armature.

Also as each shoe transitions between a N pole coil and a S pole coil, or S to N, there is a magnetic attraction from the next pole to the shoe that aids rotation. It's a built in motor, and this is probably the major factor in reduced input HP.

I gotta get me one of these :)

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2014, 08:14:19 PM »
I think before we determine the workings of the generator we should wait for syairchairun to get permission to release the actual construction of the 100 RPM generator shown in the videos.
 
There are many theories how this works but unless you know the exact construction you will be playing the same wild goose hunt as always.
 
If syairchairun can get permission to release the exact 100 RPM generator design, then replication and verification would be simplified.
 
It's my opinion that the 4 pole design will suffer much of the same problems as a conventional generator. Pushing iron that is essentially a magnet across the windings will have the same drag effect as a magnet.
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2014, 09:42:49 PM »
as lumen said i'll wait till mr syairchairun get permission to release from the gen designer (100 rpm gen) :) .

Aktif itu gan, sekrang sih saya hanya menunggu izin dari pembuatnya ( Ramadan ), apa boleh untuk dishare,
 yang asli darinya itu yang 100rpm gan yang pertama x saya buat, tunggu aja saya akan kirm itu, sangat simple sih gan kerjnya


@all,mr syairchairun email is aktif,now he just wait permission from the gen maker ( Ramadan ),he may share it or not.
the original from ramadan is the 100rpm gen which mr syairchairun build in the first time,just wait i will send that,the working principle is so simple


@syairchairun ,terimakasih gan ane akan tunggu  :)
@marsing , ane gak ngeuh klo dsini ada tmen snegara jga  ;D pdahal ane dah muter2 d sub forum kapanadze ampir 2 taonan  :o .salam kenal ya gan  ;D


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