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ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #555 on: June 26, 2016, 10:46:29 AM »
4.  Heavily Promote the Negative Energy BEMF

One possible intermediate step is to use the BEMF as engine to drive trains or ships.  No need to fly up immediately.

Some people will call this as pulse engine efficiency.  That is fine.  Science moves ahead no matter how people call it.

My approach is to examine the Milkovic 2SO and see that it does lead-out gravitational energy.  This was first proposed to me by the Late Lee Cheung Kin.  We can then focus on the Fung Wheel - leading out both gravitational energy and electromagnetic energy.

The waveforms in the horizontal and vertical positions will teach us a lot...


The high speed trains in China may benefit first with this approach.  People feel safer on the ground.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #556 on: June 26, 2016, 01:36:13 PM »
http://overunity.com/16589/mhs-ideal-coil-and-voltage-question/new/#new

There is intense discussion going on in the above thread.  The question of BEMF and related issues were raised.  Sooner or later, someone will produce the waveforms.  Some of these waveforms will be similar to those in this thread...

The most important part is the high negative voltage and positive current giving negative power over the leading edge of the pulse.  That represents negative energy.

Can that negative energy be interpreted as bringing in electromagnetic energy from the environment?

When we place the Fung wheel horizontally, we get less negative voltage.  Can we interpret that as less gravitational energy was brought in?

If we can bring in gravitational energy, should we re-examine the Milkovic 2SO.

China and USA Military have mastered that long ago.  Man made UFOs are flying.


China is still using conventional rocket technology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXJOQtECsGw


It will not be long when the new UFO technology is used...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #557 on: June 30, 2016, 02:42:32 PM »
Someone questioned the validity of the Fung Wheel.  At overunityresearch.com, someone proposed to ban my posting.

The Fung wheel is the beginning of the design of the ninth version of the Flying Saucer.

The diagram is reproduced here.

The details are in the overunity.com "ufo propu" thread starting in reply 1.

What is so special about the Fung Wheel is that it is a combination of the following concepts.

1.  Leading out of gravitational energy.
2.  Leading out of electromagnetic energy.
3.  Unbalanced Wheel replacing the pendulum.
4.  Net thrust produced via the difference in Centrifugal Forces.
5.  The capturing of the Negative Voltage waveform on the leading edge of the pulse.

I shall explain each in more detail..

1.  Leading out of gravitational energy.
The Milkovic 2SO showed that the seesaw action is created by the centrifugal force of the pendulum.  When the pendulum is at the lowest position, its velocity is highest.  That gives rise to the highest centrifugal force.  The Rhead video 5 clearly showed that the weight on the LHS was lifted at the moment of the lowest position of the pendulum.  The lifting of the weight did not significantly lower the amplitude of the pendulum.  Where does the energy come from?  My interpretation is that it comes from gravity.  The Fung Wheel gave us confirmation.

When we measure the waveforms of the Fung Wheel in the Vertical and in the Horizontal positions, we found that the Vertical position gave about one-third more.  In the vertical position, the Fung Wheel essentially replaced the pendulum action with that of the rotation of an unbalanced wheel.

2.  Leading out of electromagnetic energy. 
We know that ferrite material can be thought of as consisting of many tiny magnets arranged at random.  When DC Current is passed to magnetize it, these tiny magnets align to become a large magnet.  The question is that whether the electrical energy used to magnetize the ferrite material E1 can be smaller than the resulting magnetic energy E2.  The first experiment we did was straight line coil and magnet repulsion.  At Hong Kong University, one experiment was tried.  One 130 turn coil was used to repel one circular magnet.  The electrical Energy Input was measured on a DSO.  The output Energy was taken to be the potential energy of the resultant jump (mgh).  The result was a disappointing COP of 0.06 or 6%. The researcher gave up!

We took the equipment back from Hong Kong University.  The number of turns was increased to 600.  The number of magnets were increase to 4.  The COP increased to 0.3 or 30%.  The Input Pulse was carefully examined.  The duration of the Pulse is actually dependent on how long the researcher pressed the button.  It could vary from 100ms to many seconds (if the researcher did not release the button).  The COP=0.3 was obtained with the Pulse Time of around 200ms.

The question of whether we could reduce the Pulse Time was raised.  If we could have a short pulse of 50ms, we might get COP greater than 1.  In playing with rapid pulses, we observed a sudden high negative voltage.  Initially, some remarked that it was just the normal BEMF as the duration was only 1-2ms.  But the current was positive while the voltage was negative.  That gave rise to negative power.  During those 1-2ms, we have negative energy.

I immediately took that as representing lead-out energy.  Mr. Bill Fung decided to build the circular Fung Wheel.  To our delight, we could observe very high negative voltage.  A 5 V DC Input can give a -580 V waveform. 

If the negative energy is indeed the lead-out energy, the 225 HP Pulse Motor developed in USA but funded by Hong Kong may be a reality.  (That device is considered top military secret in both USA and China after Lee Cheung Kin and I explained its operation at Tsinghua University in 2006.)

3.  Unbalanced Wheel replacing the pendulum
If the Milkovic 2SO can lead-out gravitational energy, a magnetic pendulum must be able to lead-out or bring-in magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  All we need is to replace the pendulum bob with a magnetic bob and place permanent magnets in appropriate places.  Gravitational forces are everywhere including outer space.  It will still be there if the object is cooled down to absolute zero degrees.  Some people call this zero point energy.

The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier used three unbalanced cylinders.  A cylinder can be considered as many wheels put together side-by-side.  Thus the fact that it can have COP of 30 is no surprise.

4.  Net thrust produced via the difference in Centrifugal Forces.
Some Christians told me that the principle was shown in the Bible.  King David killed the Giant Goliath with the sling.  We realized that this might be the reason for the top military secret.  A man-made UFO is possible.  Two months after our Tsinghua presentation, an UFO appeared over Nanjing...

5.  The capturing of the Negative Voltage waveform on the leading edge of the pulse.
We now have the Fung Wheel in Hong Kong clearly showing the large  negative voltage at the Leading Edge of the good pulses.  Some pulses even have the large negative voltage at both trailing and leading edges.  Most pulse motor researcher did not realize the importance of this negative voltage.  (A bad pulse can indeed rotate the wheel back!)  Manually built pulse wheels could easily have mixture of good pulses and bad pulses.  We now understand why the Tong Wheel was so difficult to tune...
 


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #558 on: June 30, 2016, 05:59:41 PM »
Circuit diagram for the Fung Wheel

Be sure to connect to the DSO correctly.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #559 on: July 01, 2016, 04:24:51 PM »
Repeat of the straight line repulsion case.
The important thing to note is that the Negative Voltage is clearly shown.

Is it lead-out energy?  Can the electrical input energy align the tiny magnets to produce the lead-out energy?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #560 on: July 02, 2016, 10:29:31 AM »
Circular repulsion via the Fung Wheel.

We learnt much from the manual pulsing of the Fung Wheel.

1.  The DC Power supply was set at 5V.  Higher setting did not necessarily lead to higher negative voltage.
2.  The timing of pressing the switch was very important.  It needed good co-ordination of eye and hand.  Lawrence Tseung got average of 3 consecutive rotations and the very best was 11.
3.  Most senior citizens (65 or over) could not get over 10 no matter how many times they tried.
4.  Most youngsters could get over 10 after a couple of tries.
5.  After success at over 10 revolutions, the focus was on getting the largest negative voltage as seen on the DSO.  One more criterion was the smallest pulse duration.

This is being developed into a competition.
1.  The general public will compete for the largest negative voltage with the existing Fung Wheel.
2.  The Students, Technicians and Engineers will compete on building a new Fung Wheel that has the highest COP.

It is unlikely that the contestants can beat the USA or Chinese Military Teams but the knowledge gained will benefit all...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #561 on: July 02, 2016, 11:57:05 AM »
One comment:

If you can use gravitational energy continuously, you are effectively tapping into the essence of the Universe.  The entire universe has masses of different sizes.  They attract each other.  We, the Earth, the Sun are all attracted by other bodies from all sides.  We are effectively immersed in a sea of gravitational forces.  We are being pulled from all sides.  If the pull on one side is greater, the force can do work or provide energy.

What you are claiming is that the Milkovic 2SO can already use such energy.  UFO technology is not all that difficult.  The seesaw action of the Milkovic 2SO brings the unbalanced forces and energy into the system.  If the pendulum is replaced by an unbalanced wheel, the efficiency will be much higher.

If gravitational energy can be utilized this way, magnetic or electromagnetic energy can be brought in via magnetic pendulums or unbalanced magnetic wheels.

If it is this simple, why are we not seeing products...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #562 on: July 03, 2016, 07:12:39 PM »
One comment:

If you can use gravitational energy continuously, you are effectively tapping into the essence of the Universe.  The entire universe has masses of different sizes.  They attract each other.  We, the Earth, the Sun are all attracted by other bodies from all sides.  We are effectively immersed in a sea of gravitational forces.  We are being pulled from all sides.  If the pull on one side is greater, the force can do work or provide energy.

What you are claiming is that the Milkovic 2SO can already use such energy.  UFO technology is not all that difficult.  The seesaw action of the Milkovic 2SO brings the unbalanced forces and energy into the system.  If the pendulum is replaced by an unbalanced wheel, the efficiency will be much higher.

If gravitational energy can be utilized this way, magnetic or electromagnetic energy can be brought in via magnetic pendulums or unbalanced magnetic wheels.

If it is this simple, why are we not seeing products...

If you read Patrick Kelly's e-book, you would find hundreds if not thousands of free energy inventions.

If you follow Sterling Allan's website, you would get information on dozens of free energy inventions.

My experience tells me that the ones trying to stop the commercialization of such inventions are the most powerful Governments - USA and China.  Both have the UFO technology.  Many UFOs are man-made.

Both Governments can stop any invention from commercialization.  All they need to do is to tell the inventors that the technology is of national security and offer some deals.  My experience was that the 225 HP Pulse Motor or the Tsinghua Energy Multiplier could have been developed for the Market over 10 years ago.  Instead, China developed the Nanjing UFO.

The Oil Cartel knows it and that is why the oil prices have dropped drastically.

My gut feel is that some small Nation will announce the UFO technology first...

*** If you read reply 545, you will find that Tesla Motors is selling the Powerwall.  That is a form of lead-out energy.  Apache Ong learned and improved the FLEET technology.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #563 on: July 04, 2016, 01:02:14 PM »
Forever Yuen working on the Fung Wheel.

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« Reply #564 on: July 05, 2016, 12:20:13 PM »
https://youtu.be/wqblRcfHb6I

Wayne and Lau tried to get high negative voltage  on July 4, 2016.

Spin wheel fast but failed to get timing right...

*** Another classmate passed away.  Must not take the technology to my grave.  Get more Youth involved...

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« Reply #565 on: July 09, 2016, 11:38:43 AM »
Brainstorming session on Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer

Principle behind Brainstorming:
1.    Let every idea have a chance no matter how crazy it seems.
2.   When an idea is selected for discussion, first, everyone must support.  Then everyone must object.
3.   Senior managers must not throw their weight behind any idea.  Some ideas can be randomly picked up from a pile of suggestion papers.

Some ideas that came up in the first brainstorm session.
1.   Get North Korea to build an UFO.
2.   Link FLEET to Powerwall.
3.   Help an African Nation to demonstrate an UFO.
4.   Heavily Promote the Negative Energy BEMF.
5.   Challenge the academics.

5.   Challenge the academics.

The challenge is in two parts.

1.  If we can bring-in energy from the surrounding environment, there is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.

2.  We can continuously bring-in gravitational energy as demonstrated by the Milkovic 2SO.  The pendulum can be replaced by the unbalanced wheel for higher efficiency.  The Fung Wheel is an unbalanced wheel.  When pulse-rotated vertically, It will bring-in both gravitational energy and electromagnetic energy.  When pulse-rotated horizontally, it will bring-in only electromagnetic energy.

The Fung wheel can be reproduced easily.  The important thing is to examine the waveform with the oscilloscope.  The thing to look for is the high negative voltage at the leading edge of the pulse.  The challenge is to produce the largest negative voltage which gives rise to the largest lead-out energy.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #566 on: July 10, 2016, 10:33:50 AM »
5.  Challenge the Academics

I still remember my first challenge to the academics in the early 1980s.

3.2  The meeting with the Nephew of a Chinese Official

Tseung had the chance to meet the nephew of a Chinese Official in Los Angeles.  In the 1980s, the young relatives of many Chinese Officials were sent to the USA to learn.  This particular nephew opened a store selling Chinese Economic Information.  Tseung was interested and spent many hours discussing various economic concepts.

The first example was the issue of increasing the money supply.  The nephew was complaining about the need to raise money to build a road.  He said that China was poor and needed to borrow money to build the road.  Tseung said, “It is total nonsense.  China can and should print money to build the road.  China already possesses the know-how to build the road.  Most of the materials are available within China.  China must print money to build the road.  Assume China prints 1 billion RMB to build the road.  After the road is built, the real asset or value of the road to China is at least 1 billion RMB.  The economic activities in building the road easily exceed 1 billion RMB.  The workers need to eat and have entertainment.  The printing and spending the 1 billion RMB can easily stimulate 4-5 billion RMB worth of meaningful economic activity.  If China does not increase its money supply, how can the Chinese people be wealthy?”

The nephew argued about the need to control inflation.  Tseung said, “It is a matter of adjusting the rate of currency increase to the rate of increase of meaningful economic activities.  Deficit spending is good and necessary if properly managed. A Country is different from an Individual.  It can increase the money supply.  Money is just a number in a trusted institution.  Such numbers can increase or decrease.  It can even be infinite.  However, one must not overdo it.  Otherwise, the supplier of goods may refuse to sell, hoping the price will increase in the near future.  Instead of stimulating economic growth, the excess printing of money may even retard the economy”.

The nephew was impressed.  They talked about the best housing policy for China.  Tseung said, “One way is to announce that China intends to rebuild City X every 50 years.  There can then be an estimate of how many new houses or old houses that need to be build or rebuilt annually.  The Government can help to guarantee loans for its Citizens.  This can be an important source of meaningful economic activity.  Modern Wealth is just the quality and quantity of meaningful economic activities”.

The nephew said, “Previously, I always thought that the kings or rulers were suckers.  They did not work but demanded the farmers to give a portion of their harvest.  The rulers provide protection from other rulers.  Now I understand that rulers are responsible for the coordination of the creation of meaningful economic activities.  They are the guardians of modern wealth.  It is a new role that few presidents or politicians understand.  I shall discuss it with my uncle.  You should write a book”.

*** The e-book is available with the title innovation.doc in
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2100.0

*** The reaction to my above concept.
It ranges from: "This is a blueprint that China or any Nation should follow." to "You are a complete idiot.  You do not know anything about economics.  You are now banned from our (senior citizen weekly) meetings."

*** On the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy Theory
From a retired electrical engineer who was also a classmate at Secondary school.  "You claim to have a degree in Physics.  You are working on the impossible Perpetual Motion Machine.  If you say anything like that in our gatherings, I shall be impolite and throw you out."

In overunityresearch.com, there is a thread titled - Banning ltseung888?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #567 on: July 10, 2016, 11:35:07 AM »
5.  Challenge the Academics

The first example was the issue of increasing the money supply.   If China does not increase its money supply, how can the Chinese people be wealthy?”


If China now has the UFO technology, will China ever be poor again?

China can build modern housing complexes in its remote poor villages and say that these are "village hotels".  The villagers, as managers and staff, are entitled to live in them.  Should they be paid to maintain the high quality?  Can "government" or semi-government meetings be held there?

How much meaningful economic activities will be created?  Can every Chinese Family become "moderately wealthy" within 10 years?  Can China maintain a two digit GDP growth for the next 10 years?

The UFO technology will demand many more scientists, engineers, workers to fill many highly paid jobs...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #568 on: July 10, 2016, 02:16:38 PM »
5.   Challenge the academics.


2.  We can continuously bring-in gravitational energy as demonstrated by the Milkovic 2SO. 

it is very easy :

1) you can proof OU with the Milkovic 2SO

2) there no selfrunner because the Milkovic 2SO is under 50% efficient

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« Reply #569 on: July 10, 2016, 03:19:33 PM »
it is very easy :

1) you can proof OU with the Milkovic 2SO

2) there no selfrunner because the Milkovic 2SO is under 50% efficient

1.  The normal pendulum can be 99% efficient.
2.  The leading-out of gravitational energy only occurs when the pendulum bob is at the lowest position when its velocity is highest.  The leading-out of energy is not during the entire operation of the pendulum.
3.  The normal self-runner mechanisms are not efficient as the percentage of the lead-out energy is so short.
4.  One way is to replace the pendulum with the unbalanced wheel as in the Chan Wheel.  The unbalanced Chan Wheel can rotate much faster. 
5.  If the wheel is replaced with a cylinder, the efficiency will be even higher.  The cylinder can be considered as many wheels placed together.
6.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier uses three cylinders.  It leads-out both gravitational and electromagnetic energy.  The claim is that 1 part of electrical energy input will give 30 units of output energy.
7.  In lead-out energy, there is often no direct link between Input and lead-out.  The analogy is like plunging a hole in a water tank.  The energy used to plunge the hole is not related to the energy obtainable from the water in the tank...

With the Fung Wheel, we just examine one pulse and see the waveform to check if there is lead-out energy. The experimental result showed the high Negative Voltage...