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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #915 on: March 04, 2017, 09:47:02 AM »

 Question 20: If China does not want to play according the present rules, which new rule is China most likely to take?
 
In my opinion, China is likely to revert back to pegging rigidly to the USD with periodic appreciation of the RMB. China already had experience and success with that system. China can focus back on international trade and not the losing currency game.

China may stop popping up the RMB exchange rate (USD/CNH pair) and let that rate to increase suddenly to ridiculous levels. The USD/CNH pair value may shoot pass 7.0 and then exceed 10.0. China can then point to the attack by the crocodiles (Hedge Funds) and justify reverting back to the pegged currency system.

When China pegged RMB rigidly to the USD and had strong currency controls, the RMB was highly valued. Investors viewed it as safe; paying higher interests and were happy to own RMB. The Foreign Currency Reserve kept piling up.

Can China move back to the good old days? YES. Let the crocodiles jack up the rate to ridiculous levels for a few days. Explain the need to change the rules of the game clearly. Get the Chinese economists and other like-minded economists to write hundreds or thousands of supporting articles. Promise President Trump that the RMB will periodically appreciate and not take advantage of the low rate to boost exports.


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« Reply #916 on: March 04, 2017, 05:23:50 PM »

Question 20: If China does not want to play according the present rules, which new rule is China most likely to take?
 
In my opinion, China is likely to revert back to pegging rigidly to the USD with periodic appreciation of the RMB. China already had experience and success with that system. China can focus back on international trade and not the losing currency game.

China may stop popping up the RMB exchange rate (USD/CNH pair) and let that rate to increase suddenly to ridiculous levels. The USD/CNH pair value may shoot pass 7.0 and then exceed 10.0. China can then point to the attack by the crocodiles (Hedge Funds) and justify reverting back to the pegged currency system.

When China pegged RMB rigidly to the USD and had strong currency controls, the RMB was highly valued. Investors viewed it as safe; paying higher interests and were happy to own RMB. The Foreign Currency Reserve kept piling up.

Can China move back to the good old days? YES. Let the crocodiles jack up the rate to ridiculous levels for a few days. Explain the need to change the rules of the game clearly. Get the Chinese economists and other like-minded economists to write hundreds or thousands of supporting articles. Promise President Trump that the RMB will periodically appreciate and not take advantage of the low rate to boost exports.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/8-facts-about-chinas-economy/


The above article summarized the rapid growth of the Chinese Economy. It did not compare the Asian Financial Miracle before 1997. It did not describe the economic weapon used by the Hedge Funds that destroyed that Miracle.


Can China neutralize that weapon? (In the financial world, the big fish eats the small fish). Can China set up the nets to prevent the sharks from devout their prey? Can the educational level of the Chinese Citizens rise as fast as or faster than the economic development?

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« Reply #917 on: March 05, 2017, 05:50:24 AM »


To: Officials and Political Leaders in Hong Kong
From: Lawrence Tseung et al
Subject: Is China losing in the Economic War and can Hong Kong help?

Many of you already noticed that the RMB was depreciating since 2015. The exchange rate was 1USD to 6.20RMB then. It is now around 6.89. The Chinese Foreign Currency Reserve dropped from 4 trillion to 3 trillion USD. The Hedge Funds and many Western Media “predicted” that RMB would further depreciate and some even predicted the rate would be 7.5 by the end of 2017. That caused many in Hong Kong to change their RMB holdings to HKD.

Many of you also saw the collapse of USSR in 1991. Before the collapse, one Ruble = 3USD. After the collapse, 1USD = 4,700Rubles. USSR was wipe out in the Economic War. You may also remember the Asian Financial Crisis in 1997. Before the crisis, the region was the Asian Miracle with increasing GDP and rapid growth. At the crisis, countries after countries fell – Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, South Korea, etc. Their Foreign Currency Reserves were drained and the currency collapsed.

The same weapon is again used on China. China is losing. Can Hong Kong, with its financial brains, help? An article discussing the issue is in:
http://overunity.com/15077/ufo-propu-engine-closed-loop/msg501198/#msg501198
Should Hong Kong help with solutions or just be an observer?

Yours sincerely,
Lawrence Tseung at al
March 3, 2017

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« Reply #918 on: March 05, 2017, 09:24:02 AM »
Question 21: Most people lose money in Forex Trading. You are saying that you have a "sure-win" technique by trading along side with the crocodiles. Will you be devoured by the crocodiles yourself?

The crocodiles are forcing the RMB to depreciate to drain the Foreign Currency Reserve of China. They are using the USD/CNH pair to do so. They open the pair at a low value (e.g. 6.5000), betting the value to go up. Someone has to be on the other side. The Central Bank of China or its agents wants to keep the rate from rising too much and buy the pair at that rate. The crocodiles and the Western News Media "predict" a devaluation of the RMB. The massive news coverage got many RMB holders to exchange their RMB holdings to USD. Most calculating Forex Traders will also bet on depreciation of the RMB. They will bet on the side of the crocodiles.

This means the Central Bank of China will be the only major player betting the RMB will not depreciate too fast (or the USD/CNH rate does not increase too fast). It is a one-sided battle. The gang of Hedge Funds or crocodiles and "allies" will win. The Central Bank of China will drain its Foreign Currency Reserves to pop up the RMB. The drain started in 2015 and continuing.

The present value is around 6.9000. This means the crocodiles have achieved a gain of 4,000 pips. At the same time, it means the Central Bank of China lost 4,000 PIPs. To the average Forex Trader, each PIP represents HK$100. But for the crocodiles, each PIP easily represents HK$1,000,000. 4,000 PIP means 4,000,000,000 or HK$4billion. Each crocodile took in HK$4 billion. The drain of the China Foreign Currency Reserve of 1 trillion USD is not surprising.

This sure-win strategy will continue as long as the crocodiles attack the RMB and the Central Bank of China is the only major player popping up the RMB. In this scenario, we are not talking about trading Forex in general.  We are talking about betting with the winner who is overwhelming the Central Bank of China and draining its Reserves. When will China ever learn?

The crocodiles are too busy devouring the Chinese Dragon to care about the small fishes (the small Forex traders.)


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« Reply #919 on: March 05, 2017, 06:53:02 PM »

Question 21: Most people lose money in Forex Trading. You are saying that you have a "sure-win" technique by trading along side with the crocodiles. Will you be devoured by the crocodiles yourself?

The crocodiles are forcing the RMB to depreciate to drain the Foreign Currency Reserve of China. They are using the USD/CNH pair to do so. They open the pair at a low value (e.g. 6.5000), betting the value to go up. Someone has to be on the other side. The Central Bank of China or its agents wants to keep the rate from rising too much and buy the pair at that rate. The crocodiles and the Western News Media "predict" a devaluation of the RMB. The massive news coverage got many RMB holders to exchange their RMB holdings to USD. Most calculating Forex Traders will also bet on depreciation of the RMB. They will bet on the side of the crocodiles.

This means the Central Bank of China will be the only major player betting the RMB will not depreciate too fast (or the USD/CNH rate does not increase too fast). It is a one-sided battle. The gang of Hedge Funds or crocodiles and "allies" will win. The Central Bank of China will drain its Foreign Currency Reserves to pop up the RMB. The drain started in 2015 and continuing.

The present value is around 6.9000. This means the crocodiles have achieved a gain of 4,000 pips. At the same time, it means the Central Bank of China lost 4,000 PIPs. To the average Forex Trader, each PIP represents HK$100. But for the crocodiles, each PIP easily represents HK$1,000,000. 4,000 PIP means 4,000,000,000 or HK$4billion. Each crocodile took in HK$4 billion. The drain of the China Foreign Currency Reserve of 1 trillion USD is not surprising.

This sure-win strategy will continue as long as the crocodiles attack the RMB and the Central Bank of China is the only major player popping up the RMB. In this scenario, we are not talking about trading Forex in general.  We are talking about betting with the winner who is overwhelming the Central Bank of China and draining its Reserves. When will China ever learn?

The crocodiles are too busy devouring the Chinese Dragon to care about the small fishes (the small Forex traders.)

There are some sure-win businesses. Lottery ticket is one of them. If it were run by private companies, it is a scam. But if it is run by the Government, it is legitimate. The proceeds or profits can be directed to social services and citizens generally accept it.

In some places like Macau or Las Vegas, Gambling is legal and heavily regulated. It becomes a vital business and source of jobs and revenue. It attracts tourists. Is it a meaningful economic activity?

At the moment, Forex trading is "unregulated". There is no "true market forces" that will more or less balance the transactions. It is very easy for the crocodiles to gang together to devour the economy of any Nation. USA found that such a setup allowed it to disintegrate USSR; evaporate the Asian Miracle and wipe out China (If China stupidly play the game in the Foreign Forex Exchanges).

If China regulates its Forex Exchanges and the Government effectively runs it as a sure-win business, it will be a different story. The Government can "manipulate" the transactions so that the "currency exchange rate" is effectively controlled by the Government. That rate is allowed to fluctuate to provide the volatility (or ups and downs) for the "Market Forces" to play. In reality, all Governments can run their Forex Exchanges similar to the lottery business.

What would happen to the 5 trillion Forex Industry?

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« Reply #920 on: March 05, 2017, 07:36:35 PM »
There is an unwritten rule and a well kept secret.

In the 1920s, the USA public blindly believed that the stock market would only go up. They poured in their savings and many borrowed to jump onto the stock market. What goes up must come down. The great depression followed.

Now, the USA big banks and government have this unwritten rule and secret. They will intervene to ensure the Market does not get crazy again. They will cool the market down to prevent another depression.

There is no such an unwritten rule and secret intervention in the Forex Market. The unknowing Nations stupidly use their reserves to pop up their exchange rates. It is up to the crocodiles to decide when to devour them.

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« Reply #921 on: March 07, 2017, 03:29:44 AM »
Fishing while enjoying the Forex Game.

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« Reply #922 on: March 07, 2017, 08:46:18 PM »

There is an unwritten rule and a well kept secret.

In the 1920s, the USA public blindly believed that the stock market would only go up. They poured in their savings and many borrowed to jump onto the stock market. What goes up must come down. The great depression followed.

Now, the USA big banks and government have this unwritten rule and secret. They will intervene to ensure the Market does not get crazy again. They will cool the market down to prevent another depression.

There is no such an unwritten rule and secret intervention in the Forex Market. The unknowing Nations stupidly use their reserves to pop up their exchange rates. It is up to the crocodiles to decide when to devour them.


This actually leads to the role of Hedging. The known drawback of the Market is the occasional swing to the extremes. When the majority believes that the Stock Market will keep going up, they will buy and force the Market to go up further. The earnings of Companies will not justify the valuation.


The role of Governments and its directed Hedge Funds need to intervene to cool down the Market. The concept of hedging is to establish positions on both sides of the Market. This means the Hedge Fund establishes both Long and Short positions. The result is neutral. Some people may think that this is stupid. There is no gain nor loss no matter what happens.


When the Market goes too wild going up, the Hedge Funds can play in the opposite direction to cool down the Market. Since it has bets on both sides, there is no loss. If it succeeds (with the blessing of the government), the Market cools down. The holdings on the other side will increase in value and the Fund reaps good profits.


The role of these "Government Directed Hedge Funds" is the secret in providing Market Stability. China is still new in this "investment" game. Some Officials do not understand the importance of such hedging and the important role of such hedge funds. When will China ever learn?

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« Reply #923 on: March 07, 2017, 09:09:03 PM »

 Question 22: Do you think that Governments must have a role in the “financial markets”? Will the simple law of supply and demand be sufficient as the controlling mechanism?
 
Past experiences tell us that the “free market” will sometimes swing to extremes. For example, the Hong Kong Housing Market is going crazy. Property Developers bid up the land prices to unsustainable new heights. There is no supply of new lands to cool down the Market. Housing is no longer for living but has become a vehicle for speculation.

The crocodiles know this too well. They can devour the unknowing Public and even Nations.

Responsible Governments must have the “shark prevention” nets and the trained officials to regulate, monitor and intervene if and when necessary. They should have “friendly” hedge funds...

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« Reply #924 on: March 08, 2017, 02:19:42 AM »


The Chinese Foreign Currency Reserve rose to above 3 trillion. What does it means? Has China seen the posts from here? Are they Forex trading via a Chinese Forex Exchange? Will they be able to stop the drain on the Reserve?

The attached picture is the tradition Chinese New Year custom - post some encouraging words at the door.

The Rooster crows; The World hears.
The Good News will be heard for Ten Thousand Generations.

Does that mean the two camps will not fight the economic wars? Will they compete to get poorer Nations rich?

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« Reply #925 on: March 08, 2017, 01:06:22 PM »

 The attached USD/CNH one minute chart clearly showed the battle between two sides.  One wants the rate up. The other wants the rate down. The difference between two values easily exceed 30 PIPs.

Is China still playing in the London Forex Exchange – battling against the crocodiles?
When will China ever learn?

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« Reply #926 on: March 09, 2017, 03:43:29 PM »

Question 22: Do you think that Governments must have a role in the “financial markets”? Will the simple law of supply and demand be sufficient as the controlling mechanism?
 
Past experiences tell us that the “free market” will sometimes swing to extremes. For example, the Hong Kong Housing Market is going crazy. Property Developers bid up the land prices to unsustainable new heights. There is no supply of new lands to cool down the Market. Housing is no longer for living but has become a vehicle for speculation.

The crocodiles know this too well. They can devour the unknowing Public and even Nations.

Responsible Governments must have the “shark prevention” nets and the trained officials to regulate, monitor and intervene if and when necessary. They should have “friendly” hedge funds...


I was surprised to read a Hong Kong Newspaper article claiming that the high bidding price for land in Hong Kong was nothing to worry about. Hong Kong Government benefits from the land sales. Hong Kong Government can build more low cost housing for the low income.


Property speculation helped many to become rich. The average home owner in Hong Kong can easily sell his home and buy a much larger piece of property in USA, Europe, Canada, Australia and China. He does not need to live in Hong Kong.


Is he right???


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I was surprised to read a Hong Kong Newspaper article claiming that the high bidding price for land in Hong Kong was nothing to worry about. Hong Kong Government benefits from the land sales. Hong Kong Government can build more low cost housing for the low income.

Property speculation helped many to become rich. The average home owner in Hong Kong can easily sell his home and buy a much larger piece of property in USA, Europe, Canada, Australia and China. He does not need to live in Hong Kong.

Is he right???

If the two camps (USA, China+Russia) compete to help poorer Nations rich, having Hong Kong Citizens move to such Nations to help in the development may be a good suggestion. Hong Kong Citizens have developed the entrepreneur spirit. They have built a prosperous Hong Kong. They helped to create the China Miracle.

The educational level is amongst the best in the World - better than most developed Nations. I am sure that the elites in Hong Kong can spot the many opportunities in the poorer Nations. In fact, most wealthy families plan to have their children settle elsewhere and not just stay in Hong Kong. With the one-belt-one-road initiative from China, achieving win-win will not be an obstacle.



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« Reply #928 on: March 09, 2017, 04:23:58 PM »

Question 23: Do you think that the 5 trillion a day Forex Market is just a game? If China trades through its own Forex Exchange and posts the results in the Forex Computer Systems, it can theoretically achieve any exchange rate? All other Nations can do the same? Individuals can still trade and participate in the 5 trillion a day trading. Is it meaningful?
 
I have been discussing this with many others. It is like gambling in the casi*o owned by the family. Losing or winning makes no effective difference. The result of the trading is posted as the “official exchange rate”! It clearly is a game.


*** I have to admit that I enjoy the game - even with fake or demo money. It is intellectually challenging. It get me to read much more about the "international happenings" including unemployment figures, trade balances, news events and articles by journalists. It is more addictive than almost any computer game. I can start conversation with almost any stranger with the opener - I think I have a sure-win strategy based on the crocodile attack on the RMB.
 
 

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« Reply #929 on: March 09, 2017, 11:31:34 PM »

 Question 24: This Question was from a fellow Senior Citizen living in the same retirement complex. He said: “I do not know anything about Forex but I have common sense. What you are claiming is that if China “Forex Trades” through its own Forex Exchanges, the results will be honored as proper transactions in the International Forex System. Thus China can effectively be the dominant market force and establish any exchange rate it desires. This is against common sense. If it were true, why did China not do it before? Why would China drain a trillion USD of its Reserve?”

Tseung: “China is going through the learning process in the financial markets. China first plays by the rules set up by the West. China then examines these rules and finds their drawbacks. The Forex Exchange Market caused China 1 trillion. But the same rules caused USSR to disintegrate. The same rules evaporated the Asian Miracle in 1997. China now understands. If it still plays in the old way – in the foreign forex exchanges and drains its Reserves – the Communist Government will be the laughing stock by the West and by its own citizens.”

Hong Kong financial elites can save China. (Even if the West managed to lock up two of its top financial brains in jail!)

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