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Author Topic: Ufo propu engine, closed loop  (Read 187063 times)

Offline endlessoceans

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #885 on: February 10, 2017, 10:51:11 AM »

Trying out another strategy. Put in a sell order. This means that we have two opposite orders cancelling each other out. I can rest at peace no matter how the market moves. The plan is to get deep into the resistance level. If the rate keeps rising, there will be no more risk. Can wait until a very high level. When the rate falls clearly, take profit on the long side. Let the short side take advantage of the downward trend and profit.


Actual figures:
Short the pair @6.8643 No stop loss.  Aim to take profit when the pair drops to 6.8123. Profit 520 PIPs.
Long the pair @6.8709 No stop loss. Total unrealized loss = -7,200. Aim to hunt for the top resistance level totally risk free. (Will have to pay some premium.)





*** When top presumably reached, short again at that level.


Hey Stupid

This forum about Energy, not Forex or Politics.  Are you that desperate to hear your own voice that you need to just dribble manure all day.

What happened to all those UFO's you said were flying around?  Please show us working UFO off the Fung wheel or whatever madness it is you are vomiting.

I realise that in China you don't get paid much and this leads to general unhappiness but please go outside and find a girlfriend or something

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #885 on: February 10, 2017, 10:51:11 AM »

Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #886 on: February 11, 2017, 01:35:00 PM »



Hey Stupid

This forum about Energy, not Forex or Politics.  Are you that desperate to hear your own voice that you need to just dribble manure all day.

What happened to all those UFO's you said were flying around?  Please show us working UFO off the Fung wheel or whatever madness it is you are vomiting.

I realise that in China you don't get paid much and this leads to general unhappiness but please go outside and find a girlfriend or something
UFO technology is closely tied to politics. We are in the middle of an Economic War. Forex is an important weapon in this economic war.

The many UFO sightings indicate possible man-made flying saucers. The theory has been described here. Don't expect me to build one. The amount of money and resources is beyond any individual.

I spent over 40 year in UK and USA. Now I am happily retired in Hong Kong, China. Money is no longer an issue. I prefer to use this forum as there is little "noise".

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #887 on: February 11, 2017, 01:48:04 PM »
The attached picture showed the positions and thoughts. The price is around 7,000 virtual HK$. The knowledge gained is as valuable as the book "Beat the Dealer" describing the Black Jack card counting technique.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #888 on: February 12, 2017, 12:59:25 AM »

The "correct" technique in TREND forex trading.


Can the trade really turn 200K to 5m in six months?
If he uses leverage of 200:1, he effectively controls 40m.  He can use 1m as one unit in trading.
Making 5 units with capital of 40 means 12.5% return in 6 months.
He may be right. The Hedge Funds and Bank of China are handing him money!!!


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #889 on: February 14, 2017, 08:58:32 PM »
The learning experience and the strategy to turn 200K to 5m riding on the Hedge Funds attack on RMB.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2017, 01:02:58 AM by ltseung888 »

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #889 on: February 14, 2017, 08:58:32 PM »
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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #890 on: February 15, 2017, 11:02:21 PM »

The attached picture showed the positions and thoughts. The price is around 7,000 virtual HK$. The knowledge gained is as valuable as the book "Beat the Dealer" describing the Black Jack card counting technique.


It looks like the graph shaped above is occurring. After much confusion, two sets of "offsetting" bets were placed to take care of the potential downward movement, followed by the expected up movement again.


This Forex trading game is very additive. See if the "sure win" technique can double the 200K to 400K in the next few weeks as planned...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #891 on: February 16, 2017, 11:34:42 PM »
The learning experience and the strategy to turn 200K to 5m riding on the Hedge Funds attack on RMB.


A bit surprised that there were only 5 downloads of the presentation file as of this morning.
Looks like many people are skeptical when I claimed a "sure win" strategy that can turn HK$10K to over 200K within 6 months. He who understands and takes action will become millionaires.

One individual told me, "During the Asian Financial Crisis, the Hedge Funds attacked the Thai Current. If I had betted that the Thai currency would devalue sharply, I could have made tons of money. That was the only opportunity I know as sure-win."

Actually, a similar sure-win scenario is occurring right in front of us.  Examine the USD/CNH graph carefully. If you had Opened the currency pair 18 months ago on the expectation of the value rising (RMB devalue), you would have gained 6,600 PIPs (not counting the Premium). If you had Opened the currency pair 6 months ago (Aug 2016) at 6.7000, your gain would be 1600PIPs (6.8600 - 6.7000). If the rate hits 7.5000 by the end of the year as "predicted" by some hedge funds, the gain would be very juicy(75000-68600=6400PIPs).  For full understanding, download and read the presentation file.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #891 on: February 16, 2017, 11:34:42 PM »
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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #892 on: February 17, 2017, 05:23:04 PM »

It looks like the Stop Loss technique is much better than the "Peace of Mind" technique where a simultaneous buy and sell are placed.  Sooner or later, a firm decision must be made. A Stop Lmeoss order does not involve an additional transaction cost.


An initial Stop Loss can be carefully thought through. The loss can be calculated first.


The "Peace of Mind" method creates much uncertainty at the point of taking away the protection. The fluctuating market gets the mind confused. Putting protection on and off and on again caused so much transaction cost that it ended in loss for me.  Stick to the tried technique of Stop Loss. Ego hurts when guessed wrong. But indecision and haste decision is worst.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #893 on: February 18, 2017, 01:37:18 AM »

A friend asked: "I would like to make HK$800 a day. I can be a day trader as I am retired. If I invest HK$200 (same as the demo account), how many PIPs do I need to gain on average per day?"


For Day Trading, there is no need to consider Premium. Each PIP is worth anpproximately HK$700. He needs to make 12 PIP profit a day on average. The transaction cost is 19PIPs. He needs to find a transaction that gives at least 31PIP gain. Note that he would be helping the Broker to make more money (19 vs 12PIPs).


Thus searching for Broker with lowest spread is important. This FOREX trading game is additive. If and when China allows FOREX trading in China with proper controls and regulations, the volume of daily transaction is likely to double.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #894 on: February 20, 2017, 03:59:18 PM »

 I was at a seminar organized by Alibaba.com. Their success is no accident. The Seminar had speakers covering Government Funding, Using the Alibaba platform, logistics and selling via an Alibaba partner when one only focuses on manufacturing.

I was given a few minutes at the end to talk about Forex Trading under the attack of Hedge Funds on RMB to those interested. I was challenged to justify the statement that a 200K account can be traded to have a balance of over 3m in six months.

I used historic data and selected a six month period. I randomly started in Aug 2017 buying the pair at 6.6300 and closing at 6.8611. The gain was 2,311PIPs. At HK$100 per PIP, the gain before the daily premium was HK$231,100. That was using a margin of around HK$20K. If we use PIPs, the average daily gain in PIPs is 12.8(2,311/180)PIPs. Assume a daily premium of 4PIPs, the daily gain should exceed 8 PIPs.

If after 30 days, the gain is 240 PIPs, I Close the position. I Open 2 units using a margin of around 40K. The gain in the next 30 days should average 16PIPs. After another 30 days, I use the total gain of 480PIPs to Open 4 units etc.

With initial 1 unit (HK$20K margin), the monthly gain would be:
240 480 960 1,920 3,840 7,680

At the end of six months, the total gain would have been 7,680 PIPs.  There were no significant dip in the period selected.  Thus the net gain per Unit invested would be HK$768,000.

If I had invested 4 units, the total gain would have been HK$3,072,000. Many eyes popped out. Most did not understand the mechanism of FOREX trading. One immediately placed an Open Order. He said, “Let us plan to meet again in six months.”

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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #895 on: February 21, 2017, 07:47:18 PM »

 A senior commented: “Who knows such an insane money making strategy? I have been trading FOREX for some time. I certainly never learned it.”

The Hedge Funds attacking the RMB certainly know it. Hopefully, every FOREX trader will know it within weeks. They would flood the system with millions of orders betting the devaluation of RMB. The Central Bank of China would have no choice but to re-evaluate its strategy. Do it now before the Reserve have been drained!!!

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #896 on: February 21, 2017, 08:09:29 PM »

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Lawrence,  I would consider that expecting the past six month trend to continue straight line projection to the following six months is naive and too simple minded.  Nothing on earth is so perfect and smooth.

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We are not looking for perfection. We are talking about the strategic directions. The West devised such rules to attack any Nation without firing bullets. Should China stupidly play according to such rules?

The calculation is to show that any average person can be a part-time FOREX trader and make millions. (The Hedge Funds are already making billions.) China is stupidly draining its reserve to protect the Currency Exchange Rate. The rules set up by the West is so biased that China simply have no chance to win.

Go back to the rigid Foreign Exchange Control days and do NOT play the stupid game...

Introduce the New Competition - two camps competing to develop the poor Nations. Make others rich so that one can be rich and remain rich.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #897 on: February 22, 2017, 03:11:08 PM »
One comment: "Your calculation is theoretically correct. But in practice, no one does things to that extreme unless it is virtual money. Most people will take some money out early to enjoy. They will invest less aggressively to reduce the potential downside risks."

With 200K, the total protection is 2000PIPs theoretically. Using it to protect 1 unit of bet is definitely sufficient. But to use it to protect 32 bets towards the beginning of the sixth month, the protection will only be 62PIPs (2000/32).

Most people will be yelling with joy if they can double their money in six months.

Keep up with the theoretical calculations, they are good stimuli...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #898 on: February 22, 2017, 10:07:13 PM »

 Question 1: If Central Bank of China or its agents do not participate in the FOREX Market any more, what is likely to be the outcome?
When there are sellers of RMB and no buyers, the RMB will devalue very quickly. Instead of a maximum depreciation of 2% a day, the depreciation can be many times that (Learn from USSR and the Asian Financial Crisis).

Question 2: Where do the FOREX Market Makers get their RMB to do the trading?
They do not need to own any RMB. The FOREX Market plays on derivatives – or numbers based on the trading. For example, I do not need to own any USD or RMB to buy or sell the USD/CNH pair. My account is in Hong Kong Dollars.

Question 3: What will happen to my Open Order (betting RMB to depreciate) when there are no buyers of RMB in the FOREX?
The USD/CNH rate will shoot up from the present 6.8 to well over 10. You may not be able to close the order to realize the profit. But on the books, you will show a very high unrealized gain. You may be able to use that unrealized gain to do other trading…

Question 4: Is it likely that the Central Bank of China to take the drastic action of not supporting the RMB in the FOREX market? It still has close to Three Trillion USD reserve.
Three Trillion in a daily 5 trillion market is not very much. The Hedge Funds and calculating Traders are draining that reserve slowly. They already succeeded in capturing 1 trillion. There are still close to 3 trillion for them to profit. China already fell into the trap of “letting the market determine the rate”. The Market is actually the gang of crocodiles feasting on the unknowing. It will take many weeks or months for the Chinese Decision Makers to think through the problem and the solutions. My bet is that they will eventually quit the game – probably after losing another trillion.

Question 5: If I jump into the FOREX market and sell the USD/CNH pair now, am I likely to make some profit?
Yes. While the Central Bank of China is still in the “consideration mode”, you are likely to make some money. Take profit while you can. If China really decides not to pay the FOREX game and go back to pegging to the USD rigidly, you may never realize your profit.

Question 6: Are you claiming that the five trillion USD FOREX trading is an Economic Weapon that can be used by USA to destroy any Nation?
USSR was destroyed. The Asian Miracle evaporated. China lost a quarter of its reserve. Instead of using the reserve to buy goods and services (or recruit and train talent), China handed the reserve to the crocodiles. When will China ever learn?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #899 on: February 23, 2017, 05:58:06 PM »
Went to the iFXexpo  in Hong Kong. Got much information.

The FOREX trading in China is not yet regulated. But the activity is rapidly increasing as Chinese Citizens have more spare cash.

I believe the best way is to channel that cash into Meaningful Economic Activities such as helping other Nations to become rich.

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