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Author Topic: Ufo propu engine, closed loop  (Read 135450 times)

Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2015, 03:10:18 AM »
Waveform of DC Pulse across the iron core coil.

The DC Power Generator was set to 14V.  The Pulse was from the hand push of the switch.  Several attempts were tried before the attached waveform was captured.  Much more work needs to be done.

Better DSO will reduce experimental errors.

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2015, 03:21:41 AM »
http://energyscienceconference.com/2015/08/11/2015-energy-conference-photos-john-bedini-1/img_7552/

Bedini and his motor at the 2015 energy conference.

Can it be a hoax?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2015, 04:53:29 AM »
http://energyscienceconference.com/2015/08/11/2015-energy-conference-photos-john-bedini-1/img_7552/

Bedini and his motor at the 2015 energy conference.

Can it be a hoax?
It is well established that John Bedini has been pitching BS for 35 years.  He still pays the power utility for his electricity.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2015, 12:13:27 AM »
Waveform across 1 ohm resistor.

Does the waveform make sense?


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2015, 12:21:54 AM »
It is well established that John Bedini has been pitching BS for 35 years.  He still pays the power utility for his electricity.

John Bedini and many others are fighting against the USA Government...  The many UFO researchers are doing the same.  UFOs are known for much longer than 35 years.

Will US or Chinese Governments disclose the top secret?  Or will some other Nation do it?

Will Hong Kong University or any other academic institution publish the scientific data on the magnet repulsion experiment?  Will the governments suppress such research?

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2015, 12:21:54 AM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2015, 01:09:28 AM »
Waveform across 1 ohm resistor.

Does the waveform make sense?
The waveform shows obvious effects of ESL.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2015, 01:11:01 AM »
John Bedini and many others are fighting against the USA Government...  The many UFO researchers are doing the same.  UFOs are known for much longer than 35 years.

Will US or Chinese Governments disclose the top secret?  Or will some other Nation do it?

Will Hong Kong University or any other academic institution publish the scientific data on the magnet repulsion experiment?  Will the governments suppress such research?

Lawrence
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2100.msg50206#new
Lawrence, you do yourself no favors by defending the likes of Bedini.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2015, 01:11:01 AM »
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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2015, 02:00:27 AM »
Input waveforms

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2015, 02:56:09 AM »
Input waveforms
Do you suffer from the misconception that your resistor is free of inductance, or that your scope probe does not require power from the circuit under test?  If you are using a function generator, set the pulse up as a trapezoid and vary the rise time over a range from say 10 times what it is now to 1/10th what it is now and watch what happens to your wave forms.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2015, 03:52:10 AM »
Both channels have bandwidth limiting turned on, and CH2 is AC-coupled. Why?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2015, 02:34:57 PM »
Both channels have bandwidth limiting turned on, and CH2 is AC-coupled. Why?
CH2 is now DC-coupled.  Shall play with bandwidth limiting off.

Bottom diagram has BW limiting off on both channels.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2015, 03:22:49 PM »
The spikes you see in the current waveform are aberrations caused by the ESL of the big cement resistor.  The total voltage across the resistor is the vector sum of I*R + ESL*di/dt.  The ESL*di/dt term distorts the leading and trailing edges.  You can either change out the cement resistor for a low inductance resistor, or compensate the response.  You probably don't have the equipment around to compensate the response so you should buy a current sense resistor that is low inductance.  Invest $6.00 in one of these:  http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/13FPR100E/13FPR100E-ND/998513.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2015, 09:40:29 PM »
Wave form analysis possible with the Atten DSO.

The values of Current (voltage across 1 ohm resistor) and Voltage across the iron-core Coil) can be captured and analyzed.

The BMP file and the Excel graphs are displayed for comparison.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2015, 09:47:00 PM »
Until you clean up the meaurements, it is a case of garbage in / garbage out.  Rosemary Ainslie used cement resistors and two sides of a wire for her current measurements and got completely bogus results.  At least in your case, your scope probe is across the resistor.  You should be assking yourself what could cause the current to overshoot as indicated by interpreting the current viewing resistor voltage as I*R.  Circuit inductance resists changes in current. 

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2015, 01:53:54 AM »
Until you clean up the meaurements, it is a case of garbage in / garbage out.  Rosemary Ainslie used cement resistors and two sides of a wire for her current measurements and got completely bogus results.  At least in your case, your scope probe is across the resistor.  You should be assking yourself what could cause the current to overshoot as indicated by interpreting the current viewing resistor voltage as I*R.  Circuit inductance resists changes in current.

Since Hong Kong University has taken up the experiment as student projects, I shall let them do much more vigorous scientific research.  They have better equipment and resources.  Other academic institutions are likely to join.

My job is to sow seeds. 

I am sure that USA and Chinese Military Researchers have done similar experiments and some UFOs are already flying.

Lawrence
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