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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 02:12:59 PM »
Bought a one meter transparent tube with inside diameter at 30mm.  The cost was HKD65.  A two meter tube costs HKD103.

Got six 28mm diameter magnets to match.

Ordered the copper wire and the ferrite rod.

Shall get the dust off the Atten oscilloscope to prepare for a demonstration experiment.

Show how to catch the first fish?

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2015, 01:37:24 AM »
The plan is to dedicate the magnet repulsion experiment to Mr. Lee Cheung Kin.  His funeral service will be on Aug 7, 2015. 

I hope to have the draft experiment completed at the Hong Kong Invention Association.  He and the late Mr. Cheung Kai Fung did much to help the Alternative Energy Researchers.

May he rest in peace forever.

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »
Circuit diagram to hook up to the Atten DSO.

With the Coil in the circuit, both the voltage and current waveforms will not be DC.  We can get the Power accurately from the integration of the Voltage and Current.  We can also get the Input Energy from selecting the time period after looking at the waveforms.

The waveforms will be digitized by the Atten and the result can be analyzed with EXCEL.  This will be demonstrated as "catching the first fish".  The top of the line DSOs at Hong Kong University can do the calculation automatically.  We shall publish one set of COP > 1 results.

The students can follow the demonstration first.  They can then compete to get the best COP by varying the DC power, the Coil windings, the circuit components, using different magnets and different ferrite material etc.  The detailed scientific results are planned to be published towards the end of 2015.

The Divine Wine flows.

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2015, 12:21:44 PM »
Circuit diagram to hook up to the Atten DSO.

With the Coil in the circuit, both the voltage and current waveforms will not be DC.  We can get the Power accurately from the integration of the Voltage and Current.  We can also get the Input Energy from selecting the time period after looking at the waveforms.

The waveforms will be digitized by the Atten and the result can be analyzed with EXCEL.  This will be demonstrated as "catching the first fish".  The top of the line DSOs at Hong Kong University can do the calculation automatically.  We shall publish one set of COP > 1 results.

The students can follow the demonstration first.  They can then compete to get the best COP by varying the DC power, the Coil windings, the circuit components, using different magnets and different ferrite material etc.  The detailed scientific results are planned to be published towards the end of 2015.

The Divine Wine flows.

Lawrence
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There are lots of ways to obtain grossly incorrect results from such a simple experiment.  Such was demonstrated by years of erroneous measurements of a similar circuit by Rosemary Ainslie and some of her followers.



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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2015, 12:46:19 PM »
Caught 8 big ones.  Use steel wire.  Drawback was less sensitive.  But the advantage for outweights.

Can demonstrate the technique.

Looks like we can also do a demo on the magnet repulsion before the students experiment...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2015, 01:17:27 AM »
What are the possibilities of experimental errors in the vertical tube Magnet Repulsion Experiment?

Prof. Dennis Leung is correct in breaking the lead-out energy flying saucer into many small student projects.  The first one he chooses is the vertical tube Magnet Repulsion Experiment.

As Physicists and Engineers, we all did the experiment with a coil and a magnet.  The most common experiment is to pass DC current through the coil to turn it into an electromagnet.  This electromagnet is then used to interact with a permanent magnet.  The attraction and repulsion behavior can be easily demonstrated.  More advanced experiments include comparing air core with ferrite cores.

The suggested experiment is to accurately measure the Electrical Energy Input with the Potential Energy Output.  All Universities and Commercial organization with good DSOs can do the experiment.

The plan is for the preparation team to do a sample experiment demonstrating overunity.  This will be confirmed and verified by hundreds of Undergraduate and Post graduate Students at Hong Kong University.  The Students will compete to modify the demonstration set up to get the best COP.  This is expected to be followed by other Universities in Hong Kong and Worldwide.  The scientific data and paper will then be published officially.

The chance of an experimental error by hundreds or thousands competing Students and Universities is next to zero. 

China and USA may have no choice but to disclose their top secrets.  The many reported UFOs may already be using the lead-out energy flying saucer technology.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor and the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier may see daylight.  The World will benefit.

I shall post my efforts including every material purchase, every experiment detail here.  I may make mistakes.  My poor eyesight and shaky hands are prone to errors.  Do not rely on my results.  Rely on the hundreds of improved competition experiments and the Official Scientific Papers from Hong Kong University and other establishments.

Divine Wine flows.

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 12:16:15 AM »
Material list for the draft experiment on Vertical tube magnet repulsion.

1.   Vertical transparent tube 30mm inside diameter, 1 meter, HK$65, Sun International Supplies Limited 2780-0858
2.   Round circular magnet with hole in middle diameter 28mm, Six at HK$18 each, Wah Fai 9753-3792
3.   One coil wire 1mm diameter, 100 meters, HK$80, Wing Hong Electrical Supplier 2625-4736
4.   One ohm resistor up to 10 watts, Two at HK$6 each, Crocodile Clips etc. at HK$18, Bozam Radio Service 2388-9859
5.   On and off switch up to 10 Amp, HK$31, Ban Wah Control Equipment Co. Ltd. 2770-0800
6.   10 meters Magnet Wire, 2 soft ferrite rods 10 cm long, one diameter 30mm, one diameter 35mm, HK$100 Wai Choi 2388-3839

An Atten Oscilloscope and a DC Power Supply up to 30V were available from previous purchases.  Estimated cost HK$3,000.

Total cost = HK$3414
The cost including travel, small tools etc. should be less than HK$3,500.

***This vertical tube magnet repulsion experiment can be done by almost every University, every Secondary School with a DSO in Hong Kong and Worldwide.  At this stage, it can be treated as a scientific experiment worth exploring.

Can USA and China stop such an experiment Worldwide?  Will they disclose their top secret to benefit the World?

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 08:33:11 AM »
I like the motto “give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life”... sir you are doing a big movement! Which I see a small guy fishing in a big pond full of fisher men.

I use to fish myself as creativity. You can sense the bite of a fish with your six senses via just the sensory of the fingers. One can catch any fish with out looking at it. The more you catch, the greater the hook engineering improves. But it comes to a point where the energy of trowing in the hook is very little of what bites. COP >  blue whale.

Sir you motivate people and I'm glad there are people in this world like yourself.  GOOOD job sir! Looking at things from different angles comes with age and experience. My respects. I some times need a reminder that there is actual life outside my closet of enslaved fear to not get penalties with money when I speak out.

Lets educate the children with positive things instead if allowing them to watch spongebob.

BTW sir, interesting fact, piranha can bite through steel wire. Their teeth are like steel pliers. And their “mother nature” engineering teeth will amaze you. They are teeth like in a human mouth but they sharpen themselves when biting. It's amazing to understand these things. I believe that 99% of the modern population is “tapping” in to mother nature way of life. NO HUMAN HAS INVENTED ANYTHING ONLY WILL DISCOVER FROM THE GIFT OF MOTHER NATURE "FREEE" ENERGY” :)

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 02:40:01 PM »
Lessons learned from the first experiment.

1.  The 28mm diameter  magnet was too thin.  As soon as current was ON, it flipped and attraction took place.  One way is to use thick magnets.  Another way is to use multiple magnets to increase thickness.  Another way is to screw the magnet onto a wood or plastic piece to prevent flipping.  The non-magnetic HK$1 coin happens to have almost same diameter as the magnet.  Tried to tape 4 coils to magnet and got better results - no flipping.  May glue them together.

2.  The magnets are too strong compared with the coils.  The 1mm general purpose wire could not produce enough magnetism to attract paper clips with air core.  It could do so with the ferrite core.  When the magnet wire was used, it could attract paper clips even with air core.

3.  We may need to use more turns with the magnet wire.  Closer matching would be needed.  The present set up used 120 turns.  500 or more turns will be tried.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2015, 01:42:21 AM »
Pictures of various tests.

The first test is to check the properties of the circular magnet and the ferrite rods.

The circular magnets are very strong.  When two are attracted on top of each other, the only way to separate is to slide with great strength.

The Ferrite rod has no magnetism but can be magnetized easily.  It retains some magnetism for a short period after the permanent magnet is removed.  It does enhance the magnetism of the coil.

Following the Divine Guidance.

Lawrence

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2015, 11:23:28 AM »
Use coin taped to magnet to increase thickness and prevent flipping inside tube.

Need to increase strength of coil.  Shall try more turns and higher current.  Multiple layering will also be tried.

It looks like the experiment done in 2009 with smaller tube and smaller magnet was better.  Need to rethnk and re-examine material list. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC3As-tmCQU

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Divine Revelation?

The material list and the circuit diagram are now posted.  A sample demo from 2009 at the Office of Dr. Raymond Ting was available.  The actual parts may need change (Magnet too thin and too tight, Coil strength too weak etc.).  However, any qualified University or Organization with good DSO can do the experiment now.

The fishing scenario is complete.  The fishing line, the hook, the bait are defined.  Let others shine.  Let the student compete to do the first COP greater than 1.  Let them compete for the best COP.  Let them improve from straight line to circular motion.  Let them get the largest fish.  Just cheer them on.  Let them meet the challenge. Let them have the fun and the honor.  Let them shine.

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Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2015, 07:47:32 AM »
Magnetic fields are complicated to understand:

Part 1: https://youtu.be/GEogsEfFXrg

Part 2: https://youtu.be/BkGElmxZmhk

Part 3: https://youtu.be/HWuXvZFn91Q

BUT they are not 100% understood = more research is needed that can maybe takes is into another dimension.

It is 100% obvious though that a circular magnet has an intake and outake/exhaust. Like a car engine the way it breathes. It takes in air and fuel for the pistons to make an explosion. The magnets also need an intake and an exhaust to keep on being magnetic. I think everything is all magnetic even when it comes to the mind.

If you can use some type of equipment to measure the magnetic field of a female brain waves and compare the female magnetic wave field that of a male, you can see the different magnetic fields in both. IMO.

Now if we look in the macro world, why does the hot vapor move up and how much of magnetic field has in the macro atoms? By the same token, how much magnetic field does a “heavy” macro atom has “to fall down in to gravity”? 

I have a feeling that the universe can be under a great magnetic field that is so strong that no human six sense can feel it..It may be HUGE that “tapping” in such huge magnetic field can make one disappear or fly to another earth in the galaxy.

At any rate, this is all learned once very mature in age which is another evidence of the magnetic field. = a young child has food of the electromagnetic to attract food from the mature. A mature person keeps on going by feeding magnetism from the youth = a magnetic field of the mind. Which = expansion or contraction but mostly expansion. Gravity is just a misconception of magnetism.

Hey sir, How much energy does it take to fish a blue whale? :)

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2015, 07:58:12 PM »
Use coin taped to magnet to increase thickness and prevent flipping inside tube.

Need to increase strength of coil.  Shall try more turns and higher current.  Multiple layering will also be tried.

It looks like the experiment done in 2009 with smaller tube and smaller magnet was better.  Need to rethnk and re-examine material list. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC3As-tmCQU

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Divine Revelation?

The material list and the circuit diagram are now posted.  A sample demo from 2009 at the Office of Dr. Raymond Ting was available.  The actual parts may need change (Magnet too thin and too tight, Coil strength too weak etc.).  However, any qualified University or Organization with good DSO can do the experiment now.

The fishing scenario is complete.  The fishing line, the hook, the bait are defined.  Let others shine.  Let the student compete to do the first COP greater than 1.  Let them compete for the best COP.  Let them improve from straight line to circular motion.  Let them get the largest fish.  Just cheer them on.  Let them meet the challenge. Let them have the fun and the honor.  Let them shine.

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Lawrence
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Let us see who will catch the first fish.  Who will reproduce the flying magnet experiment posted in 2009?  Who will compare the air core with the ferrite cores and post on this thread?  Who will do the Input Energy and Output Energy comparison?  Who will claim to have achieved Overunity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC3As-tmCQU

We can have Hong Kong University as the judge or referee.  Their Students can compete also.  If the Hong Kong Government provides the necessary support, will Hong Kong become the Innovation Center of the World?

Will China and USA disclose their top secret?  Who will shine???

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2015, 01:10:34 AM »
The single picture that would save one thousand words.

Now that the stage is set for the fishing competition.  Almost all Universities or Engineering Institutes can do the experiment. Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer will be a certainty if not already happened.

Will Hong Kong be the Innovation Center and benefit the World?

Will the politicians and academics support it?

Lawrence


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