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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1080 on: May 22, 2017, 11:46:12 PM »



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENZ7mUw36to

CPEC will receive 50 billion USD investment and generate over 2 million jobs in Pakistan.

Will there be stability? Will there be results within 2 years? Will it be a success story by 2019?

There is much planning being done. Money, technology and determination are there...

Gwadar will become a major port improving the energy route to China.

Will China make it a success? Can Pakistan and China together overcome all difficulties?


Can the Pakistan Economy progress as fast as that of China in the next 15 years?

What will hold back the progress?

What are the sure-win businesses?

What are the model farms, shopping malls, cities, factories, etc?

What are the infrastructures and how can they be built quickly - power stations, dams, roads, airports, hospitals, universities, social services, high speed trains, financial institutions, internet, etc?

What kind of win-win examples can be shown? Will there be shining examples to show in 2019?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1081 on: May 23, 2017, 09:03:37 PM »


 

 
 Can the Pakistan Economy progress as fast as that of China in the next 15 years?
 
 What will hold back the progress?
 
 What are the sure-win businesses?
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 What are the model farms, shopping malls, cities, factories, etc?
 
 What are the infrastructures and how can they be built quickly - power stations, dams, roads, airports, hospitals, universities, social services, high speed trains, financial institutions, internet, etc?
 
 What kind of win-win examples can be shown? Will there be shining examples to show in 2019?
 

I would recommend pouring much more resources into Gwadar. One of the industries can be pre-fabricated Housing. Such housing can have air conditioning, fast internet connections, efficient home appliances etc. Such housing can be the showcase for Pakistan and demonstrate to all the Pakistanis what can be done. The plan can be even more ambitious to include modern transport (multi-level to avoid traffic jams?); integration of home and office; integration of home and factory; green environment; etc.

Get the Pakistan Universities involved. Stimulate the students and professors. Do not wait or hope for outside investors to bring in capital and technology in this effort. Capital (money) can be printed. Technology can be learned quickly. (China can build high rises in days with pre-fabricated housing.) Learn and improve. Let some parts of Pakistan get rich first. Make sure Gwadar have more than enough electricity, running water, hospitals, social and recreational facilities. Provide the image of super-city that can beat Singapore, Hong Kong, Shenzhen or Shanghai.

Do not just let citizens pour into Gwadar. Put in place screening policies. Tell all Pakistanis that this is a bold experiment and sacrifices must be made. Some may feel that it is unfair that they cannot move freely into a privileged city like Gwadar.

Get into the head of every Official in Gwadar that their career depends on the economic success of Gwadar. Learn from Singapore on how to prevent corruption. Set up the many models – model farms, model homes, model malls, model transportation, model factories, model financial centers etc. Introduce super democracy when ready. Introduce Internet Courses so that all Pakistanis will benefit. Introduce social service set ups so that there will not be slums. All sick, disabled or old will be well taken care of. There is likely to be jealousy from other cities. Tell them that it will be their turn later. Let them learn from the Gwadar experience…


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1082 on: May 23, 2017, 10:48:49 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFMdk_OEaY4

The topic is related Chinese think tanks. One important thing pointed out was - tank as a weapon. Thoughts can be powerful weapons. USSR was destroyed by such weapons.

China almost lost the Currency War via stupidly trading in the Forex Exchanges of other Nations. Losing one trillion USD foreign reserve is a loss in the Global Economic Battle. Hopefully, the war is not lost yet...
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1083 on: May 24, 2017, 02:20:40 AM »

 

 Can the Pakistan Economy progress as fast as that of China in the next 15 years?
 
 What will hold back the progress?
 
 What are the sure-win businesses?
 ;
 What are the model farms, shopping malls, cities, factories, etc.?
 
 What are the infrastructures and how can they be built quickly - power stations, dams, roads, airports, hospitals, universities, social services, high speed trains, financial institutions, internet, etc.?
 
 What kind of win-win examples can be shown? Will there be shining examples to show in 2019?


Hong Kong and Pakistan can have a Mutual Credit exchange. The principal activity can be the setting up of Think Tanks targeted on the CPEC or One Belt One Road. Pakistan wants Gwadar to grow to be superior to Hong Kong. One path is to send Strategic Thinkers to study Hong Kong. The thinkers will study the Hong Kong Airport, the MTR, the container ports and the tourism attractions. They will also study the high speed rail, the Hong Kong- Macau-Zhuhai Bridge. They will study how the high housing prices boost the Hong Kong economy. They will study the stock market, the hospitals, the educational systems and the labor market. They will study how the domestic helpers from Thailand, Philippines, and Indonesia etc. helped Hong Kong.

They may also have similar arrangements with Singapore, Shenzhen and Shanghai. There will be much money involved. But that can be thin-air money from both sides. The activities can be classified as Meaningful Economic Activities.

The Strategic Thinkers from the Hong Kong Think Tanks can study and monitor the development in Gwadar and Pakistan. They will study the development model and compare it with other models. They will propose sure-win projects for both sides to achieve win-win. They will study the opportunities for the Hong Kong entrepreneurs in CPEC. They will show how Pakistan can control its own currency exchange rate and protect the financial attacks from the Sharks or Hedge Funds. They will help to set up the various model farms, malls, factories, restaurant or retail franchises, low cost housing, tourist attractions etc.

Both Hong Kong and Pakistan will gain confidence in such Think Tank Exchange Activities. Win-win.
 
 


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1084 on: May 24, 2017, 09:09:56 AM »



Hong Kong and Pakistan can have a Mutual Credit exchange. The principal activity can be the setting up of Think Tanks targeted on the CPEC or One Belt One Road. Pakistan wants Gwadar to grow to be superior to Hong Kong. One path is to send Strategic Thinkers to study Hong Kong. The thinkers will study the Hong Kong Airport, the MTR, the container ports and the tourism attractions. They will also study the high speed rail, the Hong Kong- Macau-Zhuhai Bridge. They will study how the high housing prices boost the Hong Kong economy. They will study the stock market, the hospitals, the educational systems and the labor market. They will study how the domestic helpers from Thailand, Philippines, and Indonesia etc. helped Hong Kong.

They may also have similar arrangements with Singapore, Shenzhen and Shanghai. There will be much money involved. But that can be thin-air money from both sides. The activities can be classified as Meaningful Economic Activities.

The Strategic Thinkers from the Hong Kong Think Tanks can study and monitor the development in Gwadar and Pakistan. They will study the development model and compare it with other models. They will propose sure-win projects for both sides to achieve win-win. They will study the opportunities for the Hong Kong entrepreneurs in CPEC. They will show how Pakistan can control its own currency exchange rate and protect the financial attacks from the Sharks or Hedge Funds. They will help to set up the various model farms, malls, factories, restaurant or retail franchises, low cost housing, tourist attractions etc.

Both Hong Kong and Pakistan will gain confidence in such Think Tank Exchange Activities. Win-win.

Let us estimate how much Meaningful Economic Activities that can be generated with such a Mutual Credit arrangement.

Let us use the data from Hong Kong (I can get very good estimates with real data). The hotel cost will be HK$1,000 per day. The food and travel expenses will be HK$800. Conference, meetings and gifts will be HK$1,000. (To build good will and help to sell the products of a Nation, giving gifts is a good investment.) Miscellaneous expenses will be HK$200. Thus the cost of supporting a think-tank "scholar" is HK$3,000 per day or HK$90,000 per month. Let us round it up to HK$100K. If we exchange 10 scholars, the monthly cost is HK$1m. Such a sum is easily affordable especially done in a Mutual Credit arrangement basis.

How much can be done with an exchange of a 10 member think tank? We can assume a constant exchange and thus a monthly Meaningful Economic Activity of HK$1m. The think tank person is expected to be well educated, property trained and focused. He/she represents the best of a Nation. The good will and the opportunities discovered will be worth every dollar.

If Hong Kong has similar arrangement with 50 Nations, the money invested is only HK$50m per month. With a Mutual Credit arrangement, Hong Kong provides HK dollar to Nation A. Nation A  provides the equivalent of its currency to Hong Kong. If the money is not spent, it will be rendered useless. Thus the Meaningful Economic Activity is almost guaranteed.

On a person exchange basis, Hong Kong will have 500 top level think tank scholars constantly stationed outside Hong Kong to seek out opportunities for Hong Kong and to promote the image of Hong Kong.  No foreign currency reserve is drained... Plan together. Win-win.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1085 on: May 24, 2017, 11:47:24 PM »

China Moderately wealthy by 2020?
 
The stated goal of China is to have all citizens moderately wealthy by 2020. What does that really mean?

1.       From before birth, there are health checks. Additional social services will be provided to the family.
2.       Proper care is taken at birth. Preferably at well-equipped hospitals. The minimum is properly trained mid-wives.
3.       Assigned social workers will visit babies – providing help if and necessary.
4.       Free education up to secondary school level. Every student will have access to Internet via personal computer or smart phone. State subsidies will be provided to ensure such facilities are available.
5.       University or higher education may be available on a competitive basis. The opportunity will be given to the successful competitors. However, continued Internet education is free and available to all.
6.       State Capitalism will try to provide opportunities for all. Citizens can work in Governments or in the private sector. Sure-win businesses will be created with the State providing thin-air money if appropriate.
7.       Every family is guaranteed shelter, electricity, running water, access to internet, health care, social services such as help during unemployment, re-training, disaster relief etc.
8.       Every adult will be able to participate in Super Democracy. They can participate in forums, select representative and vote on key issues via their PCs or Smart Phones.
9.       Every citizen will receive retirement benefits to ensure that they can enjoy a minimum standard of living when retired.

Will China be able to achieve that by 2020? At present, almost all homes have electricity, running water and access to Internet. Computer data can point to every family that may need help. Officials are judged on their ability to bring wealth to these families. The one belt one road initiative is opening vast opportunities outside China. The knowledge level is increasing at a rapid rate. Think Tanks are popping up everywhere. China will not drain another trillion of its foreign currency reserve from stupid Forex trading. That trillion can be directed towards one belt one road projects. If China can maintain peace, it can achieve the fast pace of economic growth.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1086 on: May 25, 2017, 02:03:09 PM »


China Moderately wealthy by 2020?
 
The stated goal of China is to have all citizens moderately wealthy by 2020. What does that really mean?

1.       From before birth, there are health checks. Additional social services will be provided to the family.
2.       Proper care is taken at birth. Preferably at well-equipped hospitals. The minimum is properly trained mid-wives.
3.       Assigned social workers will visit babies – providing help if and necessary.
4.       Free education up to secondary school level. Every student will have access to Internet via personal computer or smart phone. State subsidies will be provided to ensure such facilities are available.
5.       University or higher education may be available on a competitive basis. The opportunity will be given to the successful competitors. However, continued Internet education is free and available to all.
6.       State Capitalism will try to provide opportunities for all. Citizens can work in Governments or in the private sector. Sure-win businesses will be created with the State providing thin-air money if appropriate.
7.       Every family is guaranteed shelter, electricity, running water, access to internet, health care, social services such as help during unemployment, re-training, disaster relief etc.
8.       Every adult will be able to participate in Super Democracy. They can participate in forums, select representative and vote on key issues via their PCs or Smart Phones.
9.       Every citizen will receive retirement benefits to ensure that they can enjoy a minimum standard of living when retired.

Will China be able to achieve that by 2020? At present, almost all homes have electricity, running water and access to Internet. Computer data can point to every family that may need help. Officials are judged on their ability to bring wealth to these families. The one belt one road initiative is opening vast opportunities outside China. The knowledge level is increasing at a rapid rate. Think Tanks are popping up everywhere. China will not drain another trillion of its foreign currency reserve from stupid Forex trading. That trillion can be directed towards one belt one road projects. If China can maintain peace, it can achieve the fast pace of economic growth.


At the fishing pond:

Fisherman: "Can China bring moderate prosperity to all its minority races?"

Tseung: "Yes. Special policies are taken to ensure that. Many of the minority race areas are turned to tourist spots. Special funding is provided. Every minority home has electricity, running water, internet (if not now, by 2020)"

Fisherman: "If China can do that, can it treat all Developing Nations as 'its minority races' and bring moderate prosperity to them all?"

Tseung: "Good idea. I never treat the problem that way. Capital (money) can be printed. Technology is already available. Knowledge can be given out with China gaining more in the process. Treat all Developing Nations as 'Minority Races in China' and bring moderate prosperity to all."

Win-win.

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« Reply #1087 on: May 25, 2017, 02:33:16 PM »



At the fishing pond:

Fisherman: "Can China bring moderate prosperity to all its minority races?"

Tseung: "Yes. Special policies are taken to ensure that. Many of the minority race areas are turned to tourist spots. Special funding is provided. Every minority home has electricity, running water, internet (if not now, by 2020)"

Fisherman: "If China can do that, can it treat all Developing Nations as 'its minority races' and bring moderate prosperity to them all?"

Tseung: "Good idea. I never treat the problem that way. Capital (money) can be printed. Technology is already available. Knowledge can be given out with China gaining more in the process. Treat all Developing Nations as 'Minority Races in China' and bring moderate prosperity to all."

Win-win.


Can US, Japan, Russia bring moderate prosperity to all Developing Nations? Capital (money) can be printed. Technology has been mastered by these Nations. They can give away the knowledge and gain more.

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« Reply #1088 on: May 26, 2017, 08:44:51 AM »
 

 Can US, Japan, Russia bring moderate prosperity to all Developing Nations? Capital (money) can be printed. Technology has been mastered by these Nations. They can give away the knowledge and gain more.

Tseung, as a West trained economist, I always thought that the growth rate of any Nation will slow down as it becomes developed. Europe, Japan, USA, Hong Kong all follow the same path. Once a Nation reaches overcapacity, it has to cut back. 
 
China is defying that phenomenon. It expands via the one belt one road. The expansion is not via military conquest. The expansion is via win-win. Thus the GDP of China can grow back at 10% and help other Developing Nations grow at a similar rate. They can use your concept of Mutual Credits and achieve win-win. The rate of GDP growth needs to slow down only after all Nations are developed…

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« Reply #1089 on: May 27, 2017, 08:32:34 AM »
 Moody’s downgrade of China
 
Economist A: “Will the downgrade affect the economic growth of China?”
 
Economist B: “No. China does not need to borrow money. It can print its own. Other Nations accept RMB eagerly. The one belt one road projects help the economic growth of China and many other Nations.”
 
Economist C: “After 2008, Moody’s and other foreign rating agencies lost their credibility. China is embarking on a new game. It Forex trades via its own exchange. There will no longer be drain on its Foreign Currency Reserve. RMB automatically becomes a strong settlement and reserve currency with the expansion of the one belt one road projects.”
 
Economist A: “So we just ignore Moody’s. I look forward to a steady appreciation of RMB.”

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« Reply #1090 on: May 27, 2017, 11:42:19 AM »

 
  Moody’s downgrade of China
 
 Economist A: “Will the downgrade affect the economic growth of China?”
 
 Economist B: “No. China does not need to borrow money. It can print its own. Other Nations accept RMB eagerly. The one belt one road projects help the economic growth of China and many other Nations.”
 
 Economist C: “After 2008, Moody’s and other foreign rating agencies lost their credibility. China is embarking on a new game. It Forex trades via its own exchange. There will no longer be drain on its Foreign Currency Reserve. RMB automatically becomes a strong settlement and reserve currency with the expansion of the one belt one road projects.”
 
 Economist A: “So we just ignore Moody’s. I look forward to a steady appreciation of RMB.”

Economist A: “Let us talk about Mutual Credits. If China gives X RMB to Nation A and Nation A gives the equivalent Currency A to China, no debt is incurred. Nation A can purchase the products and infrastructures from China. That will stimulate China’s economy. On the other hand, China can use Currency A to build residential buildings, malls, tourist areas, factories and explore minerals in Nation A. That will help Nation A to become wealthy. Such an act will serve as a very powerful engine of growth. Win-win.”
 
Economist B: “That means both China and Nation A will print more of their thin air money. Are there any bad consequences?”
 
Economist C: “ A Nation must increase it currency supply for its citizens to become wealth. The same applies to Nations. If the printing of thin air money is well managed, the act will indeed be a very powerful engine of development. If I were Nation A, I can use thin air money to build my needed infrastructures without incurring debt. I would gladly do so. If China uses my Currency A to help to bring prosperity (not inflation), I would get rich faster. Why not?”
 
Economist B: “If I were Nation A, I would focus on Internet and education. The key to getting rich is technology, technology and technology. I would encourage my people to learn, master and improve on technology. I would ask them to delay getting luxury goods.”
 
Economist A: “If Nation A pegs its currency to RMB, RMB and the pegged currency will have a mass far more than USD. Does that mean RMB will be the default settlement and reserve currency?”
 
Economist B: “China can forex trade via its own Forex Exchange and thus define any exchange rate independent of market forces. Now China is the number one trading nation. Soon it will be the number one investor nation. There will be no stopping it to becoming the largest economy in the World. Its GDP growth can easily be 10% again.”
 
Economist C: “USA, Japan or any other Nation can adopt the China strategy. Make other Developing Nations rich using its spare production capacity and know-how.”
 
Economist A: “If two camps (USA et al and China+Russia et al) compete to get Developed Nations rich, it will not take long to get all Nations developed. I would guess the time to be less than one generation.”
 

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« Reply #1091 on: May 27, 2017, 01:07:15 PM »
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« Reply #1092 on: May 27, 2017, 01:17:46 PM »
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Tseung, with Mutual Credits, China essentially provides the funding and technology to build infrastructures for Nation A. There may not be any “Return On Investment”. The thin air money and labor may result in a road or bridge for Nation A. That road or bridge may not bring any direct benefit to China.
 
Such an act is a violation of economic principles. Economic principles state that there must be a return for any effort. Otherwise, the act would not be sustained. China may be able to do it once or twice but the citizens will soon object.
 
You are also assuming that China can use the thin air money from Nation A to generate wealth for Nation A and for itself. Such an assumption has no basis. It is high risk. US, Japan and other Developed Nations will not do it because they rely on private enterprises. Private enterprises rely on profit to sustain their growth. Do not even think that any Developed Nation will take on such stupid, violation of economic principle acts.

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« Reply #1093 on: May 27, 2017, 02:48:45 PM »
 Pakistan and other Stans
 
Pakistan may be able to establish win-win relationship with other Stans. (Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan)
 
Pakistan has a larger population and the Stans have much oil and mineral resources. The one belt one road initiative covers all these Nations. Roads, rails and bridges may be built to link these Stans to the Gwadar port. Internet can bring education and opportunities to all.


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« Reply #1094 on: May 28, 2017, 04:19:15 PM »

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