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Author Topic: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water  (Read 292673 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2014, 10:24:25 AM »
This has got to be a joke. And a poor one at that. Any kid in a highschool shop class could do a better job. The wire connections: just twisted around terminals. The two huge batteries are of course necessary for any electrical OU device...  but where are the DMMs and the colored clipleads? Can't have OU without colored clipleads and DMMs.


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2014, 10:24:25 AM »

Offline MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2014, 12:20:00 PM »
Supposedly a Patrick Flanagan bought a unit.

Would it be this guy?:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Flanagan

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Flanagan has written books focused on Egyptian sacred geometry and Pyramidology. He holds several patents as an inventor. He is also known for developing a method of drawing the geometrically complicated Sri Yantra. ... During the 1970s, Flanagan was a proponent of pyramid power.[6] He wrote several books and promoted it with lectures and seminars.[7] According to Flanagan, pyramids with the exact relative dimensions of Egyptian pyramids act as "an effective resonator of randomly polarized microwave signals which can be converted into electrical energy.

So, how long can the delivery be delayed?   A looooong time.

Note that they get a significant victory anyway.  Just the fact that someone has "bought" a unit could make some borderline gullibles flip.   5 x $2500 =  $12,500.

Offline MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2014, 12:36:00 PM »
As the self-proclaimed reincarnation of Nikola Tesla, why doesn't Patrick Flanagan already have one of these of his own design?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2014, 01:59:21 PM »
Sigh...
well i just hung up with Mr.Potter ,seems he is quite overwhelmed with the response and is scrambling to get his International patents sorted before shipment ,which is Dec 15 [only Canadian patents in place]
He sold 10 on Paypal link before he caught wind of it and now holding off on orders until product is in house,also He will Not except payment until product is ready for delivery


He said some Turkey posted the Product on three separate energy forums over the weekend and his life went from famine to feast...I did not mention my association with said Fowl ...Yet   8)


 He is quite confident and sincere ,a truly nice fellow looking to play a bit of catch up ATM.more info to come ,I have to make a Dr.s visit/app't


Chet

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2014, 02:05:55 PM »
These people who claim to be "reincarnations" of Tesla, and/or who claim to understand his work or to have improved theoretical understandings of Tesla-inspired systems, cannot hold a candle to the _real_  modern-day proponents of the heritage of Tesla's knowledge and work: the Corum brothers.

http://www.teslasociety.com/corum.htm


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2014, 02:05:55 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2014, 02:23:06 PM »
Sigh...[/size]well i just hung up with Mr.Potter ,seems he is quite overwhelmed with the response and is scrambling to get his International patents sorted before shipment ,which is Dec 15 [only Canadian patents in place]He sold 10 on Paypal link before he caught wind of it and now holding off on orders until product is in house,also He will Not except payment until product is ready for deliveryHe said some Turkey posted the Product on three separate energy forums over the weekend and his life went from famine to feast...I did not mention my association with said Fowl ...Yet   8) He is quite confident and sincere ,a truly nice fellow looking to play a bit of catch up ATM.more info to come ,I have to make a Dr.s visit/app'tChet

What are the numbers of the Canadian patents, and are they granted patents or merely applications?

How does he deal with the issue of Canadian CSA certification ?

Just what does he really mean by "3000 watts per hour"? Why are we being asked to trust someone who cannot even get his units of power and energy right?

ETA: At least his address is actually in an industrial area. Looks like there is a lot of tire-recycling going on nearby his heated vehicle storage business.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2014, 02:23:21 PM »
Sigh...
well i just hung up with Mr.Potter ,seems he is quite overwhelmed with the response and is scrambling to get his International patents sorted before shipment ,which is Dec 15 [only Canadian patents in place]
He sold 10 on Paypal link before he caught wind of it and now holding off on orders until product is in house,also He will Not except payment until product is ready for delivery


He said some Turkey posted the Product on three separate energy forums over the weekend and his life went from famine to feast...I did not mention my association with said Fowl ...Yet   8)


 He is quite confident and sincere ,a truly nice fellow looking to play a bit of catch up ATM.more info to come ,I have to make a Dr.s visit/app't


Chet

Did you ask him if his prototype actually _worked as claimed_ ?  From the sound of things, and the images of the device, I am guessing that it is another case of "I know it will work, just a few more little things to iron out, for some reason it quits after 3 hours but that's just an engineering issue, and we should be ready to ship working models in a couple of months."

I have been looking for someone who will do a site visit. I know a few people in and around Toronto yet and hopefully one or more of them will be curious enough to waste, er, spend an afternoon checking it out.

If he has accepted money for any unit, but it doesn't work _as claimed_ at the time he accepted the money, he is putting himself in a tricky legal situation. And if he is selling some kind of electrical device that has not passed Canadian CSA  certification... ditto.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2014, 02:23:21 PM »
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2014, 02:24:43 PM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2014, 02:29:08 PM »
The Pelton-wheel generator inside the tank can't do anything unless there is _water flowing_, turning the Pelton wheel. This is obvious, isn't it? So where does the water flow come from to turn the Pelton wheel?  The rest of the thing might actually work, as long as a strong water flow is driving the Pelton-wheel generator. Without something turning the generator though... then what?

Patent numbers, please.


Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2014, 02:30:55 PM »
Fantasy or fiction the thing has already gone global http://m.alibaba.com/product/50002273662/portable_water_generator_runs_on_water_.html

Four hundred units per month.

Come on, get real.


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2014, 02:30:55 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2014, 02:37:58 PM »
Sigh...
well i just hung up with Mr.Potter ,seems he is quite overwhelmed with the response and is scrambling to get his International patents sorted before shipment ,which is Dec 15 [only Canadian patents in place]
He sold 10 on Paypal link before he caught wind of it and now holding off on orders until product is in house,also He will Not except payment until product is ready for delivery


He said some Turkey posted the Product on three separate energy forums over the weekend and his life went from famine to feast...I did not mention my association with said Fowl ...Yet   8)


 He is quite confident and sincere ,a truly nice fellow looking to play a bit of catch up ATM.more info to come ,I have to make a Dr.s visit/app't


Chet

Sigh indeed.  If you are going to assume the role of the "follow-up guy" then you have to follow through all the way.  Your big problem is that when these things go sour you clam up and say nothing and leave people hanging.  That happened with the spoon/resonance water heater guy.  He was supposed to make a film and offer real proof that his gizmo worked.  You were following up and then you clammed up and went silent.  Then you were supposed to get the "real deal" from Bill Alek but you clammed up and went silent.

Now you are following this guy.  You just revealed that he has already taken in $25,000 (if the guy is actually telling the truth).  This is just another con job, a stupid piece of junk that will never be delivered to anybody.  He spent about $1000 on a prop, made a clip and put it on YouTube, and now he has $25,000 sitting in his PayPal account.  Sounds like a pretty good deal already and he is playing you like a fiddle.  Then of course he will play Sterling Allen like a fiddle also and laugh his way to the bank.

You might not like these words Chet but that's what's going down as far as I can see.  Your challenge will be to follow-through and not go dark.  So, when the first deliveries get pushed out to January, then February, then March and beyond, you should be telling us that by posting on this thread.  When the guy stops answering emails, and the web site goes offline, and when the cell phone number gets disconnected, you should be posting that in this thread.

You think that you are acting in good faith supporting some guy that has totally world-changing technology that will revolutionize everything, but you are not.  You are helping this guy pick other people's pockets by being the "follow-up guy."  So you are not so altruistic when you put things in that context.

Again, the challenge is for you to tell the truth, and that means telling the good and telling the bad.  It all sounds "good" to your ears right now.  But when nothing gets delivered and you start getting that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, will you tell us the bad?   If you want to be real and credible you have to tell the good and the bad the moment you volunteer to take on this role to be the "follow-up guy."

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2014, 02:39:46 PM »
Luc
I think the PMA may have something to do with the AC supply ,as the motor driving it seems to be the only thing going through the emergency cut off switch.The black wire from that same motor that is driving the PMA seems to go over to the solenoid/load dump resistor's. Could it be that when the emergency cut off switch is hit,the power is disconected from the inverters(12volts),and the power still being generated from the PMA and pelton generator until they wind down,is sent to the load dump resistor's?.The solenoid may be being used as a ground state switch-hence the negative wire from the battery,to the solenoid,then from the solenoid to the motor driving the PMA. Once the emergency cutoff switch is hit,and the circuit becomes open,then the solenoid would also become open,disconecting the inverters from the battery,while redirecting the wind down power to the load dump resistors. I think the load dump resistors are only a safty feature.

I don't know Brad?  the one thing I can see is they demoed a device that is not completely wired up and fully operating.
Obviously they didn't operate the Pelton generator in the video but we can see it has been tried, since when he lifts the water tank cover it's all wet in there.
From the phone conversation Chet reported, it looks like they are not ready and that can be seen from the inside their device.

Luc

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2014, 02:39:48 PM »
Sigh...
well i just hung up with Mr.Potter ,seems he is quite overwhelmed with the response and is scrambling to get his International patents sorted before shipment ,which is Dec 15 [only Canadian patents in place]
He sold 10 on Paypal link before he caught wind of it and now holding off on orders until product is in house,also He will Not except payment until product is ready for delivery


He said some Turkey posted the Product on three separate energy forums over the weekend and his life went from famine to feast...I did not mention my association with said Fowl ...Yet   8)


 He is quite confident and sincere ,a truly nice fellow looking to play a bit of catch up ATM.more info to come ,I have to make a Dr.s visit/app't


Chet
I am sorry, but the BS meter is off the chart.  The PCT patent window slams shut the moment a product is advertised.  He cannot obtain any patent based on any application filed since he began advertising.  If he had a patent lawyer and were filing patents, he would know that.

A confidence artist has to sound sincere.

Any substance, water included is not fuel unless it is converted into something else in the process of yielding energy.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2014, 02:47:08 PM »
Fantasy or fiction the thing has already gone global http://m.alibaba.com/product/50002273662/portable_water_generator_runs_on_water_.html

Four hundred units per month.

Come on, get real.

He has now taken down that add

Luc

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2014, 02:49:36 PM »
The pictures of the "models" are really hilarious. Some PhotoShop color replacement, and the yellowgreen 5000 W unit becomes an orange 10000 W unit, and then a purple 15000 W unit. All identical, the very same picture.

He does not have working prototypes of any of these units.


Patent numbers, please.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
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