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Author Topic: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water  (Read 243577 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2014, 01:04:33 AM »
Perhaps send out a call to Canadians who are close to Toronto before you light the torches
Mark E.


Maybe summon Captain Zero....[I believe he is close to Toronto]




A 10,000 rpm "Turbine" was mentioned ,it runs 4 days on 4 gallons of water,  the unit in the Vid does not look like anybody is cutting and pasting anything ?


Also They don't seem timid about showing the inside works ?


Chet
A bald faced liar is still a liar.  Again:  The machine contains no visible connection between the water tank and the internal workings but a direct connection between the lead acid batteries and the inverter.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2014, 01:04:33 AM »

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2014, 01:23:32 AM »
A bald faced liar is still a liar.  Again:  The machine contains no visible connection between the water tank and the internal workings but a direct connection between the lead acid batteries and the inverter.
It would seem that it may be a 3 phase pelton generator that is mounted to the side of the tank.There also seems to be a pump mounted in front of the motor thats driving who knows what.
These images compliments of Groundloop from OUR.


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2014, 01:27:01 AM »
We also get a quick glimp's of what may be the pelton wheel in the water tank.
Surely this setup didnt have any merrit :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LckOcHJ7r8Y

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2014, 01:42:21 AM »
Thank you Groundloop for the excellent detective work ;)


Luc


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2014, 02:05:23 AM »
Here is the link to buy the Pelton Generator for $211. on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-Home-Power-Water-PMA-Generator-and-Pelton-Wheel-1000-3000-Watts-12-36-VDC-/191154591960

My guess is the 2000w inverter is powering the dark grey AC motor which is attached by v-belt / pulley to the silver permanent magnet generator
which is worth about $460. on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Freedom-II-PMG-12-24-volt-permanent-magnet-alternator-generator-4-wind-turbine-/291164191208?

My next guess is the other long silver 3000 watt inverter powers the AC output receptacles and maybe other single black AC motor which is possibly an off the shelf stripped AC pressure washer pump to spin the Pelton Generator at high speed.

Here are the batteries Pdf Datasheet
http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/datasheets/31GEL_Trojan_Data_Sheets.pdf

Luc

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2014, 02:05:23 AM »
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2014, 02:30:09 AM »
Oh Oh...there may be some face egg involved in this lynching yet...it might be so simple you'd laugh.

'Well boys, put the rope back in the buckboard and blow out the torches, restraint and reason just left the Sherrif's office and the three of 'em are headed over this way.'

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2014, 02:35:59 AM »
Thx anyway Cap


TinMan
This is the second time James Hardy's pump has come up in the last few weeks


That would be quite a surprise ....however why would they need to keep adding water ?

@ All ,thanks for the helpful comments.

We'll know soon enough.


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2014, 02:35:59 AM »
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2014, 02:44:36 AM »
I would have certainly volunteered my services if the invention had been located near me Chet.


If the generator doesn't work, it might make a great bong tho.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2014, 03:01:06 AM »
why would they need to keep adding water ?

@ All ,thanks for the helpful comments.

We'll know soon enough.

Chet

I would guess the water tank would loose a little water if it keeps being recirculated by the electric pressure washer pump.

Have another look at my post above as I kept adding stuff

Luc

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2014, 03:24:13 AM »
But what is the second battery for ???. Seems the light gauge wire go's to what looks like load resistors.Only one battery is conected to the inverter,and i dont see a conection to the second inverter(2000 watt blue one),or is this a charge controller?.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2014, 03:24:13 AM »
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2014, 03:46:37 AM »
I have a correction to my above post ::)

The dark gray motor that turns the silver permanent magnet generator is powered by the right side battery through the yellow shielded wire.
So basically that dark gray motor is a 12vdc motor.
Another possibility is they are using the silver permanent magnet generator as a motor and the dark gray motor as a generator :P

Luc

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2014, 04:06:48 AM »
" Is there any maintenance policy?

Yes every 3 months drain water tank and spray with garden hose." -- http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/FAQ.html

I imagine somewhere in some fine print it further stipulates that the spraying of the hose must be continuous and for up to several hours, perhaps to 'ensure it's clean' or something...

So, what they have is a water-powered electrical generator and storage device that, as their flashy video intro points out, would be handy to have during a storm or whatnot. In most places (that this device is marketed to) does not the water stay on and with pressure long after power has gone out? I imagine they've got a lawyer who's figured out exactly what they can get away with putting in/leaving out to make it seem to be something more incredible... so, sadly, I'd hold off on any calls to the RCMP.


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2014, 04:26:01 AM »
Looking at all the wires coming out of the Pelton generator and the silver permanent magnet generator they both go to the same kind
of contact switches which look to be grouped to the heavy Red positive wire going back to the left battery.
Looking at the dark front Inverter it seems its AC output goes into the front electrical box for the120vac plugs and possibly the rear
silver inverter powers the 220vac plug. Both inverters seem to be connected to the left battery.
I guess then the dark gray motor turning the silver PMG is fed by the right battery but nothing else seems to be connected to it so it has no recharge capability as it is.
Also, from the looks of the way that yellow wire shielding was stripped and connected, it looks like a last minute change :P

I think that's all from me for tonight

Luc

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2014, 04:29:36 AM »
Also, this cracks me up:

" Do I need to connect a garden hose or some sort of water to the generator when running?

No just fill up the tank when you receive your unit and it has a gage on the tank." --http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/FAQ.html

They rigged that 'gage' up, yep. It works nicely and is accurate too! (Floating Device of integral importance to the whole machine also prominently shown.)


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2014, 06:08:45 AM »
Looking at all the wires coming out of the Pelton generator and the silver permanent magnet generator they both go to the same kind
of contact switches which look to be grouped to the heavy Red positive wire going back to the left battery.
Looking at the dark front Inverter it seems its AC output goes into the front electrical box for the120vac plugs and possibly the rear
silver inverter powers the 220vac plug. Both inverters seem to be connected to the left battery.
I guess then the dark gray motor turning the silver PMG is fed by the right battery but nothing else seems to be connected to it so it has no recharge capability as it is.
Also, from the looks of the way that yellow wire shielding was stripped and connected, it looks like a last minute change :P

I think that's all from me for tonight

Luc
Luc
I think the PMA may have something to do with the AC supply ,as the motor driving it seems to be the only thing going through the emergency cut off switch.The black wire from that same motor that is driving the PMA seems to go over to the solenoid/load dump resistor's. Could it be that when the emergency cut off switch is hit,the power is disconected from the inverters(12volts),and the power still being generated from the PMA and pelton generator until they wind down,is sent to the load dump resistor's?.The solenoid may be being used as a ground state switch-hence the negative wire from the battery,to the solenoid,then from the solenoid to the motor driving the PMA. Once the emergency cutoff switch is hit,and the circuit becomes open,then the solenoid would also become open,disconecting the inverters from the battery,while redirecting the wind down power to the load dump resistors. I think the load dump resistors are only a safty feature.

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