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Author Topic: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter  (Read 250420 times)

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #315 on: January 20, 2018, 04:19:01 AM »

Could you elaborate in more detail please?


Fausto.



"The geometry is simple:  Copper Plate - Paper Tower
impregnated [/size]with Epson Salts saturated
solution - Paper Towel impregnated with MnO2 - Zinc
Plate."

Interesting.this setup will burn through many stages 1st Cu2+ e-,2nd MnO2 + H+ e-,3rd O2 + H+ + e-,finaly O2 + h2O + e- it'l burn longtime yes

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #316 on: November 04, 2018, 02:50:52 PM »
Soon I will post some very interesting things. Well, sharing now, I have officially passed the 5 years mark with 3 cells running inside an epoxy brick without any contact with air, water or even anything coming out.


I am studying a phenomena in these cells that shows a "heart beat" when the cell is completely dead.


I am preparing a series of videos about this phenomena.


And no, i have not stopped this research for even a day in all these years. I am having very promising results.


Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #317 on: November 30, 2018, 07:54:46 PM »
Today I am very happy with my research. Finally after almost 10 years I got my first 1 milli-watt cell running an LED for 3 years, and this cell is OPENED.


My other cell is running for 5 years and it is casted in epoxy. I cannot open it.


Guys, this is something but I think no one cares which is ok.


I am very happy because with 1 milli-watt I can finally run an electronic device such an oscillator or joule thief.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #318 on: December 01, 2018, 12:00:00 PM »
Hi Plengo,

Thank you for this interesting subject (including Marcus Reid's thesis, to which you referred a few years ago).
This thread having started a long time ago, it's difficult to find our way around. Could you summarize your experiments and measurements (possibly in texts rather than video, it's more synthetic)?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #319 on: December 01, 2018, 04:55:18 PM »
Here are pictures and measurements and graphs.


First pic is the cell running an LED and performing load tests. This cell was created on June-3-2015 and unfortunately cracked open which literally kills the cell. I revived her (third and final forming process) and now here she is running forever an LED very brightly.


Second pic is its voltage and current over 1k resistor. Left gray meter is on micro-amps scale showing an almost 1 ma current. Voltage is 1 volt +.


Third pic is a load test graph. The higher voltage (pulse) is a 5 minutes time run and shows the voltage across the terminals of the battery while running an LED. The next 5 minutes shows the cell under a heavier load of 1k ohm. Observe the response time. Almost instantaneous response no matter what kind of load i put. Regular commercial batteries do not behave like that.


Fourth pic is the third pic zoomed.


Fifth pic is the hearth beat of the cell.


Sixth pic is a close up of this old running cell under load.


Seventh pic is showing the mother of all proofs, a extremely steady cell running an LED. This graph is only a tinny piece of YEARS like that. Those cells get stronger with time.


When the cell is DEAD it shows this hearth beat with pulses of 4 volts running indefinitely.


Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #320 on: December 01, 2018, 05:06:33 PM »
First pic is a close up of one cell.
Second pic is showing a "before formed" cell (you can see the Mg rod very shinny) and second cell is formed and running.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #321 on: December 01, 2018, 05:17:14 PM »
I need to patent this invention to protect it from evil people. I have no problem having people creating products of it and making money without paying me anything BUT if a COMPANY tries to do the same I will certainly look for my rights.


After watching how patent wars work I decided that I have to protect this invention. Patent wars are very damaging to inventors and the public in general. If someone else find out how I do it they will patent it and send me a letter of cease and desist forcing me to stop all this research and lose my rights.


So, if anyone here has a better idea, please, let me know. Running 1 milli-watt is very useful.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #322 on: December 01, 2018, 06:36:10 PM »

How much power does the battery deliver and how long does it work?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #323 on: December 02, 2018, 04:38:37 AM »
1 milli-watts and indeterminably.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #324 on: December 02, 2018, 12:17:50 PM »
The power you supply is 1 mW. Over 3 years, this represents an energy of 3*365*24*1*1*1/1000=26.2 Wh. You are within the range of a non-rechargeable R14 battery, and since the volume of your cell seems to be of the same order as that of an R14, this is an excellent result in terms of energy density.

Nevertheless, this performance is on the order of what ordinary chemical reactions could produce, and since the instantaneous power is much lower than that of R14 batteries, it could be assumed that the reactions here are more complete.

Is there something that lets you think that this is not the result of ordinary chemical reactions in the cell unlike any pile? I mean do you think there is a new process at work, or do you think it is the result of an obviously very smart engineering design and reaction products choice, but based on a conventional principle?


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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #325 on: December 02, 2018, 04:05:26 PM »
I need to patent this invention to protect it from evil people. I have no problem having people creating products of it and making money without paying me anything BUT if a COMPANY tries to do the same I will certainly look for my rights.


After watching how patent wars work I decided that I have to protect this invention. Patent wars are very damaging to inventors and the public in general. If someone else find out how I do it they will patent it and send me a letter of cease and desist forcing me to stop all this research and lose my rights.


So, if anyone here has a better idea, please, let me know. Running 1 milli-watt is very useful.


Fausto.

   Fausto:  Can you show just what you are using a "1 milli-watt" cell for?  Why do you think that this amount of voltage with very little current is useful?
   I also have totally dry aluminum carbon cells that are years old and still can output over a volt, and a couple of mAs. 
However, I don't see any point in trying to use their output of obtain any use able amount of light from them. And is why I ask you in what way are those cells useful?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #326 on: December 02, 2018, 06:25:47 PM »
The power you supply is 1 mW. Over 3 years, this represents an energy of 3*365*24*1*1*1/1000=26.2 Wh. You are within the range of a non-rechargeable R14 battery, and since the volume of your cell seems to be of the same order as that of an R14, this is an excellent result in terms of energy density.

Nevertheless, this performance is on the order of what ordinary chemical reactions could produce, and since the instantaneous power is much lower than that of R14 batteries, it could be assumed that the reactions here are more complete.

Is there something that lets you think that this is not the result of ordinary chemical reactions in the cell unlike any pile? I mean do you think there is a new process at work, or do you think it is the result of an obviously very smart engineering design and reaction products choice, but based on a conventional principle?


I think it is not conventional. First I know what corrosion is by looking at others cells with same mass and materials.


Second, cells get 1 degree celsius below room temperature.


Third, the cell is outputting more and more energy as it is used.


Fifth, the graphs, the graphs and the graphs.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #327 on: December 02, 2018, 06:27:38 PM »
   Fausto:  Can you show just what you are using a "1 milli-watt" cell for?  Why do you think that this amount of voltage with very little current is useful?
   I also have totally dry aluminum carbon cells that are years old and still can output over a volt, and a couple of mAs. 
However, I don't see any point in trying to use their output of obtain any use able amount of light from them. And is why I ask you in what way are those cells useful?


1 mW is enough to run an LED and a Joule third.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #328 on: December 03, 2018, 12:50:21 AM »
    Fausto:
   Can you show it doing so, along side of a normal LED? Perhaps you can convince me that the cell's lumen level thus obtained is useful. In any case it would be good to also show what you are referring to, like in a video, along with some meter readings.   
   I'm not asking to disclose any secrets, but if you'd like some comments or interests from the forum, it would be good to show some results.
   The fact that you mentioned that one cell cracked open makes me wonder about oxidation, and the old galvanic reaction.
As salts absorb water in open cells, which helps any type of salt crystals to grow, while it eats away at the magnesium and the copper, providing an output. The drier the cell, the longer it lasts. Hermetically sealed cells work the longest, yet have the least output in mAs. 
   Does this all sound familiar?  What has changed, then?
                 NickZ   
   
   Remember me?  I was on the crystal cell thread, for quite a while, as you were, as well.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #329 on: December 03, 2018, 09:45:16 AM »
...Second, cells get 1 degree celsius below room temperature.
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Of course, this is the most critical point. How did you check this temperature and how many times over the 3 years?
Karpen has patented a possible process for converting ambient heat into electricity without a chemical reaction, but a mix of both processes is still possible. Could it be related to his cells?

See here also.