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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2014, 06:22:45 PM »
Lol Yes but the result is very good.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2014, 06:58:43 PM »
Lol Yes but the result is very good.
It is a good demonstration of the MPP principle.

My judgement of goodness for a PV module MPP controller is first and foremost how much power gets delivered to the load for a given amount of irradiance impinging a PV module of known efficiency.  Since I don't know what PV module you are using or how much light is hitting it or how much power is coming out of your device I can't judge how good the result is.  AC microinverters connected to ~200W nameplate modules these days get 96.5% weighted efficiency which is really good.  At their peak efficiency, they tend to do a smidge over 97%.  If you can get 90% or better from a 10W to 25W module, then I would say that you are doing pretty well.


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2014, 07:13:20 PM »

Hi MarkE,
This is not a  PV module MPP controller ,and  the solar panel is not relevant , is only to show the circuit work with lower power wattage source;  in my last video i use a battery .What i want to say is that can be used any source off power  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4

What is relevant is the relation between the input power and the output power.
:)

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2014, 07:25:37 PM »
Hi MarkE,
This is not a  PV module MPP controller ,and  the solar panel is not relevant , is only to show the circuit work with lower power wattage source;  in my last video i use a battery .What i want to say is that can be used any source off power  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4

What is relevant is the relation between the input power and the output power.
:)
Yes and no.  In order to maximize the output power from a given source, the load impedance must be the conjugate of the source impedance.  For a resistive source that means matching the resistance.  There are many situations where we don't want to match because it results in unacceptable heating in the source.  For instance if you load a AA alkaline cell with a matched 100mOhm load the cell quickly overheats.


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« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »
Yes and no.  In order to maximize the output power from a given source, the load impedance must be the conjugate of the source impedance.  For a resistive source that means matching the resistance.  There are many situations where we don't want to match because it results in unacceptable heating in the source.  For instance if you load a AA alkaline cell with a matched 100mOhm load the cell quickly overheats.

MarkE ,
The reason of the the great power output of the circuit  is in fact a combination of high current BEMF collected combined with the lower power voltage input source .
If i open the box case of the relay you could see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0       , but the relay will be fault soon because the air.   

Thanks for your explanation but i think there is things very different.
If you could see my other videos to understand what i try to show .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4

Thanks

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« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »
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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2014, 08:09:53 PM »
MarkE ,
The reason of the the great power output of the circuit  is in fact a combination of high current BEMF collected combined with the lower power voltage input source .
If i open the box case of the relay you could see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0       , but the relay will be fault soon because the air.   

Thanks for your explanation but i think there is things very different.
If you could see my other videos to understand what i try to show .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4

Thanks
From what I can see you are building multivibrator based power converters such as were used in military equipment back in the 1940's up until the 1960's.  I think it makes for good steam punk.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2014, 08:33:52 PM »
From what I can see you are building multivibrator based power converters such as were used in military equipment back in the 1940's up until the 1960's.  I think it makes for good steam punk.

No MarkE  is not a  multivibrator based power converters ;)
In a circuit dc to ac inverter either old you don't use the BEMF to input the primary transformer  :)
 The high current output in circuit is low voltage (14v) and provide enough power to load the 55w halogen lamp with low power source as i try to show  .
The AC stage use a pulse bye the BEMF generated for the first transformer in their primary , yes primary not secondary because the power that is used is from the magnetic collapse : Radiant energy
The circuit only need the power input to provide the oscillation (relay work ) the power output in circuit is generated only with BEMF generated in coils, not drain the the power from source (battery). This is a power amplifier circuit based in radiant energy collecting .

See this video and try to understand the base of the idea :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

Thanks

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2014, 08:39:46 PM »
No MarkE  is not a  multivibrator based power converters ;)
In a circuit dc to ac inverter either old you don't use the BEMF to input the primary transformer  :)
 The high current output in circuit is low voltage (14v) and provide enough power to load the 55w halogen lamp with low power source as i try to show  .
The AC stage use a pulse bye the BEMF generated for the first transformer in their primary , yes primary not secondary because the power that is used is from the magnetic collapse : Radiant energy
The circuit only need the power input to provide the oscillation (relay work ) the power output in circuit is generated only with BEMF generated in coils, not drain the the power from source (battery). This is a power amplifier circuit based in radiant energy collecting .

See this video and try to understand the base of the idea :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

Thanks
We can drive a transformer with any AC source that we like. 

I don't see any measurements in your videos that would support a claim that your arrangements obtain "radiant power" from the surroundings.   I have seen demonstrations of steam punk power converters.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »
We can drive a transformer with any AC source that we like. 

I don't see any measurements in your videos that would support a claim that your arrangements obtain "radiant power" from the surroundings.   I have seen demonstrations of steam punk power converters.

Hi MarkE Ok, i respect your point of view  , but sincerely and honestly  i think you don't see the things bye the right way  but i will not waste more your time , because certainly you have things more important to do,  when i try to shit you with things like that   .
Thanks   

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2014, 02:57:04 AM »
That looks cool and, it looks like you put a lot of work into it but, that 4 watt bulb that you light in the first video link can be driven by a single "dead" AA battery and one of my joule thief circuits.  It will light it for many, many hours.  That is with just about .8 volts compared to your 20 volts input from the solar cell.  I guess I am not seeing the utility of your circuit here.

It does look cool though and I appreciate your sharing it with us here.

Bill

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2014, 11:58:50 AM »
That looks cool and, it looks like you put a lot of work into it but, that 4 watt bulb that you light in the first video link can be driven by a single "dead" AA battery and one of my joule thief circuits.  It will light it for many, many hours.  That is with just about .8 volts compared to your 20 volts input from the solar cell.  I guess I am not seeing the utility of your circuit here.

It does look cool though and I appreciate your sharing it with us here.

Bill

Hi pirate88179,

The 4w bulb is not the point off the video is only a "add" in the circuit.  The main propose of the circuit is collect radiant energy and convert in large current.
I think there is a misunderstanding as to the circuit. I now what is a joule thief, I already made ​​dozens of prototypes "https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=GmlpV1MWm40" but is not the point .

Can you make a joule thief and  able to connect the halogen bulb 12v 55w like in the video ?
That is the real propose of circuit ! Not light  in the ac output a lamp of 4w led :) The circuit have 2 output :
AC and DC . The DC output is high current .
the circuit  will collect radiant energy without use the main source to the output.
If you have some doubts see this video for you understand what i try to show and i have sure that you will understand .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0

Is not a joule thief! Is a radiant amplifier.

Thanks 

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2014, 12:57:16 PM »
Hi pirate88179,

... snip ...

Is not a joule thief! Is a radiant amplifier.

Thanks
What evidence do you have that supports this claim?  Where is the radiant energy measured before and after the alleged amplification?


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2014, 03:40:22 PM »
What evidence do you have that supports this claim?  Where is the radiant energy measured before and after the alleged amplification?


ahhhhhhh ok you need the measures ...  i can provide a amp meter in the input but i don't have other to the output ,; the 55W 12v halogen car at full bright do the work to show the power collected ?  For the test you prefers a battery to the input of the circuit ? I can provide a video with this.
But think :
Why i firstly connected the halogen lamp into he solar panel ? For show that solar panel cant provide the wattage of the lamp the filament cant glow  (The solar at 100% conditions will generate 15W but not the case ) and i show in the circuit a output of higher power that can provide power enough to run the 55w 12v halogen bulb.
But if i use a 12v battery the result will be the the same .The power amp collected and storaged is more higher that main input.
I only need the main power to make the relay operate is the only real condition (car relay 12v) all the power collected is produced by BEMF like a joule thief. The difference between joule thief  is that if you use a transistor to the oscillation you cant combine the 2 positives charges because the transistor will burn and you don't be able to produce the effect. The contacts of the relay will act like a green spark " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0" produced bye the combined high current with the high voltage of BEMF.  Do you now anything about Edwin Gray and their technology? you can visit the Aaron Murakami channel and make some consult about this phenoms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9XCK3RNuI&list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A

As you have the right to question my work, I also have the right to question whether you understood what was really going on this .

thanks

   

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« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2014, 05:02:16 PM »

ahhhhhhh ok you need the measures ...  i can provide a amp meter in the input but i don't have other to the output ,; the 55W 12v halogen car at full bright do the work to show the power collected ?  For the test you prefers a battery to the input of the circuit ? I can provide a video with this.
But think :
Why i firstly connected the halogen lamp into he solar panel ? For show that solar panel cant provide the wattage of the lamp the filament cant glow  (The solar at 100% conditions will generate 15W but not the case ) and i show in the circuit a output of higher power that can provide power enough to run the 55w 12v halogen bulb.
But if i use a 12v battery the result will be the the same .The power amp collected and storaged is more higher that main input.
I only need the main power to make the relay operate is the only real condition (car relay 12v) all the power collected is produced by BEMF like a joule thief. The difference between joule thief  is that if you use a transistor to the oscillation you cant combine the 2 positives charges because the transistor will burn and you don't be able to produce the effect. The contacts of the relay will act like a green spark " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfxEAQNOjp0" produced bye the combined high current with the high voltage of BEMF.  Do you now anything about Edwin Gray and their technology? you can visit the Aaron Murakami channel and make some consult about this phenoms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9XCK3RNuI&list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A

As you have the right to question my work, I also have the right to question whether you understood what was really going on this .

thanks

 
If one wishes to claim that process X amplifies quantity Y, then one must show that quantity Y is greater at the output of process X than it is at the input of process X.  You claim amplification of radiant energy.  Therefore you must show the energy in and out of your process.  Amperes are a measure of current.  Amperes are not a measure of energy.


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« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2014, 05:14:35 PM »
If one wishes to claim that process X amplifies quantity Y, then one must show that quantity Y is greater at the output of process X than it is at the input of process X.  You claim amplification of radiant energy.  Therefore you must show the energy in and out of your process.  Amperes are a measure of current.  Amperes are not a measure of energy.

Hi MarkE ,
I never say amperes are a measure of energy  ok i know the ohm law .
I make a new video with a a amp meter on the power source and with a 12v battery with the voltage monitored with a multimeter. is the best i can show now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegRP2521jI


thanks for your opinion


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