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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 02:17:32 AM »
Scorch:

You said:

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I see no evidence there has been any expressed claim of "over-unity" from Quanta Magnetics

This clip from Quanta Magnetics:  "Gyroscopic Inertia Pulse Motor Generator DEMO - 3 new inventions - one machine."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VdsWn-Q9Y

At 2:39 Mike Kantz states, "Becasue this alternator fits within the space of the outer gyro weight and the innermost axis here, it does not kill the inertia of the gyro when this thing is under load."

That's a claim of over unity and it is pure BS, a lie.  Don't even try to state, "You can't be sure of this because you haven't built and tested his machine" because you would be making a fool of yourself.

Plus you have Mike Kantz playing the Tesla game, just like Fix the World and hundreds of others.  Then you have the nonsensical Schumann resonance claim from Mike Kantz which is more nonsensical BS, and you are avoiding that issue completely.

Plus, the "3 new inventions" claim is a joke.  I watched the clip and there is nothing there.  And of course you have the outrageous cost for these pulse motors.  I have lots of valid reasons for having issues with Quanta Magnetics.  At the same time I clearly stated that he is free to charge whatever he wants for his kits and people are free to discuss that issue if they want to.

And the one thing that is almost comical is that you are arguing against free speech and the free exchange of ideas on a forum where the explicit purpose of the forum is to engage in free speech and exchange ideas.  People have been fighting and dying for the First Amendment and with lots of verbal-ese and crazy contortions of logic you want to crush it.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 02:17:32 AM »

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2014, 07:56:07 AM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

I see what appears to be a mechanical advantage (leverage) there.
A mechanical advantage of the larger flywheel over the much smaller rotor of the alternator that serves to help preserve inertia and smooth out cogging feedback from the alternator.
I would not consider or call this advantage "over-unity" nor did I assume he portrayed that advantage as over-unity as you may have assumed.

A mechanical advantage is what may be accomplished by using different diameters of disks and rotors similar to that accomplished with gears or pulleys.
For example the 12" disk of a Q3 pulsed motor will have a 2:1 advantage over a 6" rotor of an alternator.
Or, in the case of the Q3 toroidal generator, the advantage is nearly 5:1.
These mechanical advantages may be very useful for the conservation of kinetic energy and conventional PM alternators that tend to have a 'cogging' effect under load.

There may be far more happening on many levels.
Mechanical advantages are only one aspect to consider.

And I believe flywheels perform better, or in different ways, when gear ratios are applied.
Just a thought from the physics point of view anyway.
This IS a moving, synchronous, system after all.
And there is something like 12 different parameters of adjustments and tuning...

Just need the correct ratios and synchronizers.  8)
And if it actually is a resonate system tuned to mother earth, and located within the spherical capacitor that is the planet and ionosphere, then locating the nearest ley line, or the junctions of dodecahedron shaped core, of this planet  may also be useful when considering all the physical aspects of this thing located and positioned within the source field...

Kindest regards;

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Scorch:

You said:

This clip from Quanta Magnetics:  "Gyroscopic Inertia Pulse Motor Generator DEMO - 3 new inventions - one machine."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VdsWn-Q9Y

At 2:39 Mike Kantz states, "Becasue this alternator fits within the space of the outer gyro weight and the innermost axis here, it does not kill the inertia of the gyro when this thing is under load."

That's a claim of over unity and it is pure BS, a lie.  Don't even try to state, "You can't be sure of this because you haven't built and tested his machine" because you would be making a fool of yourself.


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2014, 04:12:43 PM »
Scorch:

At 2:39 Mike Kantz states, "Becasue this alternator fits within the space of the outer gyro weight and the innermost axis here, it does not kill the inertia of the gyro when this thing is under load."

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I see what appears to be a mechanical advantage (leverage) there.
A mechanical advantage of the larger flywheel over the much smaller rotor of the alternator that serves to help preserve inertia and smooth out cogging feedback from the alternator.
I would not consider or call this advantage "over-unity" nor did I assume he portrayed that advantage as over-unity as you may have assumed.

You have to get real, Mike Kantz is lying.  Your backpedaling and frivolous discussion about "mechanical advantage" does not change a single thing.

"Mechanical advantage" is not even relevant to this discussion.  You have a flywheel that is say 14" in diameter.  It does not matter if the diameter of the generator attached to the flywheel is one inch, five inches, 10 inches, or 20 inches.  The only thing that counts is that the generator when powering an electrical load will draw rotational energy out of the flywheel.  If the generator is one inch in diameter and powering a two-watt load or eight inches in diameter and powering a two-watt load it will make no damn difference to the flywheel and the flywheel will slow down at the same rate.

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Just a thought from the physics point of view anyway.

If you want to be able to analyze your pulse motor effectively you need to learn about real physics and real electronics.

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And if it actually is a resonate system tuned to mother earth, and located within the spherical capacitor that is the planet and ionosphere, then locating the nearest ley line, or the junctions of dodecahedron shaped core, of this planet  may also be useful when considering all the physical aspects of this thing located and positioned within the source field...

There is no resonance happening anywhere with a pulse motor.  Your quoted comments above are almost as bad as the fake "Schumann resonance play" that Quanta Magnetics makes about their plain ordinary vanilla pulse motor that is not fundamentally different from any other pulse motor.  There is no such thing as "tuning a pulse motor to Mother Earth."  That is just ridiculous nonsense to appeal to the "New Age consciousness" crowd in an attempt to make a sale.

MileHigh

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2014, 06:55:41 PM »



  Poor old scorch trying to tout something like this on here is akin to the hapless
fellow who found wolf traps in a storage unit he bought.
   He then proceeded to take them to a woman who ran a wolf sanctuary for
appraisal, and guess what, she wasn't impressed!
            John.


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 07:53:55 PM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

This would depend on how "nit picky" I may want to be about these experiments.
My analysis may go no further that to confirm or deny the apparent affect in the video and I have no desire to become a PhD. in order to explain it in that particular language.  ;)

I am not real concerned about the physics at the atomic level and it's illogical to nit pick specific wording vocabulary of a mysterious video versus over-all intent and examination of the device.
I will be respectful and honorable to my fellow man-inventor and actually build it and learn, for myself, whether or not I might be able to confirm or deny some of the apparent results by way of my own replication of the same experiment.

A "peer review" so to speak. From one backyard inventor to another.
Although, considering the background of this inventor and his well designed products and professionalism, this inventor is apparently a little more than a mere "backyard inventor" working with spare parts and hardware store supplies. ;)

And, so until then, until I actually ACT in this respectful manner to honor my fellow man by reviewing his experiment; this is all talk and no action. :P

It may produce a unique effect or it may not.
But I am certainly not going to air such very serious accusations lightly and without any first hand knowledge such as actually examining the machine for myself.
Nor am I going to simply ignore possible discoveries merely because I hear somebody else say it's all BS (hearsay) who has not talked to the inventor and not replicated the specific experiment.

Without any proof of claim, of "lying" or "fraud", the allegations are merely hearsay opinions or frivolous claims from a party who has NOT actually performed any experiments with this specific test platform. :o

IF it does produce a unique effect that I may find useful for providing a little extra energy or demonstrating this effect for others; what care, I, the nature and cause?

Do I need to know all the tiny, little, intimate intricacies about how the machine works in order to use the machine by turning the switch on?  ???

Here is the scenario-
Party A says: "I am going to activate this black box and power my lights."
Party B says: "Don't do it because, in my reality, I believe it's impossible for this box to power your lights in your reality."
Party A accepts his claim, without proof of his claim, walks away and lives in darkness the rest of his life...

Is there an apparent effort to keep us in the dark?
At this point, and beyond a mere "good luck" statement, is there any evidence here of any positive, constructive, input about these interesting possibilities from any other user beside myself?
Has anybody here even considered or studied the sciences of the source field investigations complete with hundreds of verifiable, peer reviewed, scientific references?

And, if not, why not and what is purpose of this forum?!?

Isn't this forum supportive of these types of experiments exploring these types of systems?
Why is there an appearance of these efforts to discourage these experiments?

MileHigh -
Are you capable of providing any positive support for these possibilities we desire to explore per the stated purpose of this forum?

Kindest regards;

}:>


Scorch:

If you want to be able to analyze your pulse motor effectively you need to learn about real physics and real electronics.

MileHigh

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 07:53:55 PM »
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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2014, 09:57:49 PM »


Is there an apparent effort to keep us in the dark?


And, if not, why not and what is purpose of this forum?!?

Isn't this forum supportive of these types of experiments exploring these types of systems?
Why is there an appearance of these efforts to discourage these experiments?

MileHigh -
Are you capable of providing any positive support for these possibilities we desire to explore per the stated purpose of this forum?

Kindest regards;

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MH, along with several other smart (educated) guys on this forum serve a purpose to keep beginners and novice experimenters from going down blind alleys that have been explored fully before.  There is so much crap on the net and Youtube that excites these newcomers, even though they are nothing more than scam/fraud/faked videos and, lucky for us here on this forum, we have these guys that know better and attempt to save folks from spending hard earned money and time attempting to replicate a faked device.  MH, like the others, do not get paid for this valuable service...they do it in an attempt to promote real learning and experimentation. 

Do they know everything?  Of course not.  If you look at all of their posts over the years, there are times where TK, Mark E, and MH actually say..."I don't know" or "I am not sure what might be happening there."  It does not happen often, but it does happen.

TK, if he is confronted with something that appears to be outside of the generally accepted knowledge, will quickly build a replication and report all of his findings openly, wherever the chips may fall.  He does not have to do this.  In my opinion, the members of this forum are better because of this.  No one is paying any of these guys to share their hard earned knowledge with the rest of us.

MH does not do replications as far as I know, however, the opinions and conclusions he offers are usually supported by the other smart guys on here that do, so I am pretty sure he has spent a long time working in this field and knows what he is talking about.

So, the choice is yours, learn from these guys and respect their knowledge and be thankful they share it for FREE, or not and do it the hard way and keep rediscovering things that have never worked.

I love this forum and am grateful for all of the freely shared knowledge offered here which has taken me from a total newb, to someone that actually makes an interesting device every now and again.

Bill

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2014, 10:24:40 PM »
Scorch:

What you have learned so far is that you have made many incorrect assumptions and statements.  You have been corrected so that you will be induced to stop and think and reassess your statements and realize that you need to address these issues if you want to grow and improve and get more out of your analysis of your motor.  You don't need a PhD for that.  Now beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if you were wise you would realize that my comments are in fact positive contributions to your efforts.

Reality:  Mike Kants is BSing when he claims that his flywheel will not slow down under load.  Talking about mechanical advantage in this case is nonsensical.

So it's up to you if you want to learn something and turn it into a positive, or just stick your head in the sand and keep marching forward talking pseudo-tech without substance and parroting stuff like the bit about the Schumann resonance.

Think:  Can you provide a rational and understandable reason precisely how and why a Quanta Magnetics pulse motor has something to do with the Schumann resonance?  Are you a parrot or can you think for yourself?

Don't hide behind the "you can't say anything unless you build the same setup" line.  That's just a cop out, a "get out of jail free card" so that you don't have to deal with real issues.  Let's say you go to a mechanic to service your car.  The guy has been a car mechanic for 25 years and has worked on thousands and thousands of cars.  Do you cay to the mechanic, "You have never worked on a 2002 Toyota Camry automatic and I have a 2002 Toyota Camry automatic so I am not going to let you service my car."  You don't say that, do you?  You would feel like an idiot if you said that face-to-face to your seasoned and experienced mechanic.  The same thing applies here.

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Is there an apparent effort to keep us in the dark?

It's time for you to reassess and think about that statement.  Is that really true or is it just a fake attempt to hide your head in the sand and try to pretend that there is a "bad guy?"

Note your thread hasn't really started, you haven't done a single experiment.  Although I may comment once in a while, I have no intention of following it closely.

Also, please resize your posted images from now on.  I try to keep my images to 900 pixels wide or less.  Posting very large (wide) images makes it difficult for everybody to read the thread.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Bill, thank you for your posting of support.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2014, 01:39:58 AM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

This is correct. This subject was unintentionally created under the incorrect board of solid state, "kapanadze", devices and my message to Stephan requesting his assistance to move this subject to a more appropriate board has gone unanswered. So I merely created a new topic and I intend to abandon this one eventually and, hopefully, the admin will deal with it... eventually. . . .

In fact it's best I simply stop responding here which is perpetuating the thread.

And, of course, I will not be doing any experiments until I actually complete fabrication of the experimental test bed to experiment with.
Which will be detailed at a more appropriate forum here-
www.overunity.com/15030/gyroscopic-inertia-generator
Where it's best to comment there instead of here.

And, yes, I have noticed the image formatting has changed since all the work I did in the past here-
www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg376516

If I recall correctly; all the images used to remain small on this web site and I had to click on the file to see the large version which is the way it SHOULD be.
I prefer large images for better detail so, due to this web site failing to handle images and word wrap properly, this is kind of a catch 22 where larger images are prefered for detail but the web site is not accomodating these images like it should...

So what is the solution? Why has this changed?
How do we deal with really nice, clear, images but still maintain proper word wrap inside whatever the window size is?
Isn't this an issue for the web master?

My original images are typically high resolution images that are over 4000 pixels wide and they are already being down sized to around 1200 which looks ok on my monitor and not affecting word wrap here.
The fact is that it appears word wrap is not working at all and it just keeps generating a horizontal scroll bar instead of a wrap or sizing the image to the window....

Kindest regards;

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Scorch:

Note your thread hasn't really started, you haven't done a single experiment.  Although I may comment once in a while, I have no intention of following it closely.

Also, please resize your posted images from now on.  I try to keep my images to 900 pixels wide or less.  Posting very large (wide) images makes it difficult for everybody to read the thread.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Bill, thank you for your posting of support.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2014, 02:12:24 AM »


So what is the solution? Why has this changed?
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It's called bandwidth.  That costs money and Stefan (Our gracious host)  has to deal with millions of posts, many of which have photos so, a compromise has to be reached.  I post everything at 800x600 and have no problems.  If needed in a certain situation, one could email a higher res photo to show some special detail although i would doubt that this would happen often.

Bill

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2014, 11:14:27 AM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

This would depend on how "nit picky" I may want to be about these experiments.
My analysis may go no further that to confirm or deny the apparent affect in the video and I have no desire to become a PhD. in order to explain it in that particular language.  ;)

I am not real concerned about the physics at the atomic level and it's illogical to nit pick specific wording vocabulary of a mysterious video versus over-all intent and examination of the device.
I will be respectful and honorable to my fellow man-inventor and actually build it and learn, for myself, whether or not I might be able to confirm or deny some of the apparent results by way of my own replication of the same experiment.

A "peer review" so to speak. From one backyard inventor to another.
Although, considering the background of this inventor and his well designed products and professionalism, this inventor is apparently a little more than a mere "backyard inventor" working with spare parts and hardware store supplies. ;)

And, so until then, until I actually ACT in this respectful manner to honor my fellow man by reviewing his experiment; this is all talk and no action. :P

It may produce a unique effect or it may not.
But I am certainly not going to air such very serious accusations lightly and without any first hand knowledge such as actually examining the machine for myself.
Nor am I going to simply ignore possible discoveries merely because I hear somebody else say it's all BS (hearsay) who has not talked to the inventor and not replicated the specific experiment.

Without any proof of claim, of "lying" or "fraud", the allegations are merely hearsay opinions or frivolous claims from a party who has NOT actually performed any experiments with this specific test platform. :o

IF it does produce a unique effect that I may find useful for providing a little extra energy or demonstrating this effect for others; what care, I, the nature and cause?

Do I need to know all the tiny, little, intimate intricacies about how the machine works in order to use the machine by turning the switch on?  ???

Here is the scenario-
Party A says: "I am going to activate this black box and power my lights."
Party B says: "Don't do it because, in my reality, I believe it's impossible for this box to power your lights in your reality."
Party A accepts his claim, without proof of his claim, walks away and lives in darkness the rest of his life...

Is there an apparent effort to keep us in the dark?
At this point, and beyond a mere "good luck" statement, is there any evidence here of any positive, constructive, input about these interesting possibilities from any other user beside myself?
Has anybody here even considered or studied the sciences of the source field investigations complete with hundreds of verifiable, peer reviewed, scientific references?

And, if not, why not and what is purpose of this forum?!?

Isn't this forum supportive of these types of experiments exploring these types of systems?
Why is there an appearance of these efforts to discourage these experiments?

MileHigh -
Are you capable of providing any positive support for these possibilities we desire to explore per the stated purpose of this forum?

Kindest regards;

}:>
Scorch if someone wants for whatever reason to explore by experimenting, I think that is a good thing to do.  There is a lot that one can learn from the process of experimenting even if they do not get the results that they hope, and even if the experiment reproduces experiments that have been previously conducted many times. 

If the results of a proposed experiment are predictable, then  I see no reason not to state the prediction.  If the individual wishes to proceed after seeing the predictions, then that is entirely up to them.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2014, 04:11:03 PM »
Hey Bill.  :)

I am familiar with bandwidth.
Please explain:  How does the method a page displays an image or wraps text actually effect bandwidth?

Is it possible bandwidth may actually be conserved by NOT serving and displaying the full size image until user actually requests it by clicking on a thumbnail image or link?

Kindest regards;

}:>

It's called bandwidth.  That costs money and Stefan (Our gracious host)  has to deal with millions of posts, many of which have photos so, a compromise has to be reached.  I post everything at 800x600 and have no problems.  If needed in a certain situation, one could email a higher res photo to show some special detail although i would doubt that this would happen often.

Bill

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2014, 06:06:06 PM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

Please forgive my confusion and additional questions for the purposes of clarification and "reassessment" as you suggested.

Is the humble *question the same as a firm statement?  ???
*Asked for purpose of gaining information so one may reassess.

And what is the definition of a "bad guy" or "an apparent effort to keep us in the dark" in the context of this exploration of these possibilities?

Here is what I believe the definition might be:
"A guy who may interfere with scientific discovery processes by repeatedly claiming "it doesn't work", or author a lot of other negative claims, before he or I have actually built or tested the G1.".

Another possible definition might be:
"A guy who may interfere with this process by way of a substantial number of frivolous claims including, but not limited to,"spin zone", "cop out", "highway robbery", "lying", "pretending", "hiding","talking nonsense", "ignoring", "ridiculous", "fake attempt" and "impossible""
Just to name a few of the more recent and other definitions may be applicable.

Here are some other direct quotes of MileHigh from the last few days:
"I would advise everyone in the strongest possible terms to avoid Quanta Magnetics devices like the plague."
"pump it up so that you can dump it on someone else"
"he (Mike Kantz) barely knows what he is doing when it comes to electronics."
"Anybody saying or suggesting that it's remarkable that the device can produce high voltages is disingenuous and misleading."
[ Note: See scope voltage measurement here- www.overunity.com/15030/gyroscopic-inertia-generator/msg420509/#msg420509
And video of high voltage experiment here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kTzzAf_dw ]
"There is nothing promising or remarkable about that and for me there is nothing intriguing going on.  The clip is a dud that says next to nothing."
"Generate some energy my ass"
"...you are leading yourself down a garden path."
"All that you are doing is blindly believing..."
"The entire notion is complete and utter crap."
"...you are starting out on the wrong foot..."
"It's just one of many myths that is pervasive on the free energy forums."
"That's a claim of over unity and it is pure BS, a lie."
(In response to the video demonstration and Mike's dialogue: "Becasue this alternator fits within the space of the outer gyro weight and the innermost axis here, it does not kill the inertia of the gyro when this thing is under load.")
"...claim from Mike Kantz which is more nonsensical BS..."
"You have to get real, Mike Kantz is lying.  Your backpedaling and frivolous discussion..."
"That is just ridiculous nonsense to appeal to the "New Age consciousness" crowd in an attempt to make a sale."
(He wrote about Scorch who was merely referring to the verifiable, scientific, source field investigations and who is not actually selling anything.)
"...or just stick your head in the sand and keep marching forward talking pseudo-tech without substance and parroting stuff"
"Is that really true or is it just a fake attempt to hide your head in the sand and try to pretend that there is a "bad guy?"
"What you have learned so far is that you have made many incorrect assumptions and statements."
(As if he holds first hand knowledge of Scorch's reality therefore 'knows' what Scorch has learned...)

What have I learned?
I have learned there appears to be substantial negativity in just a few days.  :o
Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know. *shrugs*
There usually are reasons for such things and I am first to admit I know nothing therefore I take no position that it's "good" or "bad".

It just IS. A mere neutral event.
Therefore I intend to merely continue moving forward to actually gain experiential knowledge BEFORE claiming "it does (or doesn't) work".  :)
See: www.overunity.com/15030/gyroscopic-inertia-generator/

Please forgive him as he knows, not, what he does and I see no evidence or record that a humble question is the same as a bold statement, or the existence of a proof of any of these or those claims, and I believe no such evidence or record exists.  8)

Kindest regards;

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Scorch merely asked: "Is there an apparent effort to keep us in the dark?"
MileHigh wrote:
Scorch:

It's time for you to reassess and think about that statement.  Is that really true or is it just a fake attempt to hide your head in the sand and try to pretend that there is a "bad guy?"

MileHigh

P.S.:  Bill, thank you for your posting of support.

Does Bill support the negativity discovered throughout this record?


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2014, 07:24:58 PM »
Scorch:

That's a nice try but it's a hollow attempt.  Every one of those points has a legitimate context.  Some of those points were made to you, but you didn't respond and you clammed up.  It would seem that you are afraid to address many of the issues raised.

When a free energy or alternative energy promoter is a "pro,"  i.e.; they are doing something professionally, I discuss their propositions and evaluate what they are doing based on reality.  They are evaluated relative to legitimate technology.  Are they offering something of value?  Are they being honest?  Do they know what they are talking about?  If someone is an amateur experimenter not looking to make a buck off of somebody else, I don't say anything, even if they are talking crazy nonsense.  Once in a while I may offer a helpful suggestion but that's it.

Fix the World are pros.  Ineligentry are pros.  Quanta Magnets is a pro.  If a "pro" organization offers something credible and of value and they know what they are talking about, I will say so.  If they offer something that's not credible, it's of very little value, and they don't know what they are talking about, I will say so also.  There are some people reading that can get something out of this.  All three of the aforementioned organizations fail miserably in all three categories.  Jamie Robitaille and John Rohner can barely punch their way out of a wet paper bag when it comes to electronics, yet they promote themselves as electronics experts and they use that self-promotion to solicit funds from people and I take issue with that.

So, my impression is that you thought Quanta Magnetics offered somewhat pricey but great products and you collaborated with this guy and got support from him, etc, etc.  You thought his technology was great and amazing.  Now it comes as a shock to you to hear someone express a differing opinion and it's someone with a technical background.

You are not the issue, but if you stick like glue to Quanta Magnetics naturally some of what I say is going to be upsetting to you.  But I will repeat again, you are not the issue.  There has been negativity expressed about Quanta Magnetics and it's legitimate.  If you want to stick up for them then respond to the issues I have raised about them.  If you don't want to respond or can't respond then let it go.  You just bought a few kits from them, you don't have to be stuck to them like glue.

The abuse of technical language to pump up your product is a real issue if you are a pro.  "TPA" stands for "Toroidal Power Amplifier."  I see a toroid ferrite with two coils wrapped around it that is coaxial with the main shaft of the pulse motor.  That's not a "power amplifier" and it certainly does NOT amplify power.  Do you have anything to say about that fact?  Or do you just remain mute and accuse me of "negativity?"

Now is this next comment "negativity" or a "blunt technical critique?"  It looks like the "TPA" is a toroid that is coaxial with the pulse motor and there are spinning magnets inside it.  (see attached pic.)  I bet you thought that was pretty cool.  The harsh reality is this:  It's totally retarded, show that to a bunch of engineers and they would gasp in disbelief.  You probably didn't realize how ridiculous that design is.  For sure you will get something out of the two coils wrapped around the toroid, but it's still retarded.  It's almost like it's out of Monty Python's Flying Circus.  If you don't know why I am saying that, start yourself on a learning course about electronics in parallel with your experimentation with the motor.

Here is the clip again:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kTzzAf_dw

There is no power amplification going on and demonstrating increased output voltage should be demonstrated and explained.  Unfortunately most likely Mike Kantz can't explain what is happening in that clip.

Here is a clip where it is clear that he cannot explain what is happening and there is no power amplification taking place:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3h2cEbHw&list=UUreJcMjYx-ovTpN4MomNNtw

So what is positive in what I am saying?  Now you know the truth about Quanta Magnetics.  You are a little bit wiser.  I am still encouraging you to experiment to your heart's content with your pulse motor.  However, now you know that many "remarkable effects" shown by Quanta Magnetics are explainable and not remarkable.  You also know that Mike Kantz can't explain them himself.  That means if you invest some time and put some effort into experimenting and learning, in a few short months you will have far surpassed what you see from Quanta Magnetics.

Put it this way:  If you have a trusted movie reviewer and he or she tells you a new movie sucks, then you just saved a hundred bucks because you don't take your wife and kids out to see that movie.  That is a positive.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2014, 07:58:28 PM »
Scorch:

The "TPA" is nothing more than a pick-up transformer added to the pulse motor shaft.  i,e.; It's nothing more than adding a generator pick-up coil setup attached to the pulse motor.  By definition, a transformer does not amplify power.  So calling it a "Toroidal Power Amplifier" is yet another lie.

HOWEVER, never in my life have I seen a toroidal ferrite core used as the core for a magnetic pick-up coil.  Toroidal cores are designed for usage as toroidal transformers.  They were never designed to be used as pick-up coils.

Nonetheless, the spinning magnet on the center axis of the toroidal core will induce changing flux through the core that the the pick-up cols will see and you will get an output.  But it is very unorthodox.  So much so, that you can say that the design is "retarded."  I doubt Mike Kantz realized this when he designed it.

Plus the pulse motor already has generator coils as part of the design.  What is the point in adding yet another set of generator coils?

Like I said to you before, every single clip from Quanta Magnetics is filled with gaffes, and he never offers anything of substance with respect to his voice-over beyond the most basic description of what is going on.  It's like that movie "Catch Me if you Can" where the protagonist bluffs his way through impersonating a doctor by watching some movies featuring doctors and some medical soap operas on TV.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2014, 08:48:22 PM »
Hey MileHigh.  :)

Please forgive me but I am very busy making an honest, scientific method, attempt to replicate the experiment and results; therefore all this discussion about why it 'won't work' is absolutely irrelevant, very distracting from this scientific process others are attempting to follow, and detrimental to the spirit and intent of this forum.

Absolutely irrelevant until such time somebody actually does make an honest attempt to replicate the experiment by actually building it and attempting to replicate the apparent results.
THIS is what a peer review is. I am NOT qualified to peer review the experiment without actually reviewing the experiment through a hands on, scientific method, process including replication of the experiment.

Please forgive me and my choice to "clam up" and set aside all your irrelevant, negative, "same old song", opinions about how that, which you and I have not yet built, 'doesn't work' so that I may actually move forward.

And IF the replication of this experiment actually does reach a 'dead end', sometime in the future, then I might consider your opinions but, more than likely, I will seek a more neutral, unbiased, authority for assistance now that you have brought so much controversy about said unknown future.

Kindest regards;

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Scorch:

That's a nice try but it's a hollow attempt.  Every one of those points has a legitimate context.  Some of those points were made to you, but you didn't respond and you clammed up.  It would seem that you are afraid to address many of the issues raised.

When a free energy or alternative energy promoter is a "pro,"  i.e.; they are doing something professionally, I discuss their propositions and evaluate what they are doing based on reality.  They are evaluated relative to legitimate technology.  Are they offering something of value?  Are they being honest?  Do they know what they are talking about?  If someone is an amateur experimenter not looking to make a buck off of somebody else, I don't say anything, even if they are talking crazy nonsense.  Once in a while I may offer a helpful suggestion but that's it.

Fix the World are pros.  Ineligentry are pros.  Quanta Magnets is a pro.  If a "pro" organization offers something credible and of value and they know what they are talking about, I will say so.  If they offer something that's not credible, it's of very little value, and they don't know what they are talking about, I will say so also.  There are some people reading that can get something out of this.  All three of the aforementioned organizations fail miserably in all three categories.  Jamie Robitaille and John Rohner can barely punch their way out of a wet paper bag when it comes to electronics, yet they promote themselves as electronics experts and they use that self-promotion to solicit funds from people and I take issue with that.

So, my impression is that you thought Quanta Magnetics offered somewhat pricey but great products and you collaborated with this guy and got support from him, etc, etc.  You thought his technology was great and amazing.  Now it comes as a shock to you to hear someone express a differing opinion and it's someone with a technical background.

You are not the issue, but if you stick like glue to Quanta Magnetics naturally some of what I say is going to be upsetting to you.  But I will repeat again, you are not the issue.  There has been negativity expressed about Quanta Magnetics and it's legitimate.  If you want to stick up for them then respond to the issues I have raised about them.  If you don't want to respond or can't respond then let it go.  You just bought a few kits from them, you don't have to be stuck to them like glue.

The abuse of technical language to pump up your product is a real issue if you are a pro.  "TPA" stands for "Toroidal Power Amplifier."  I see a toroid ferrite with two coils wrapped around it that is coaxial with the main shaft of the pulse motor.  That's not a "power amplifier" and it certainly does NOT amplify power.  Do you have anything to say about that fact?  Or do you just remain mute and accuse me of "negativity?"

Now is this next comment "negativity" or a "blunt technical critique?"  It looks like the "TPA" is a toroid that is coaxial with the pulse motor and there are spinning magnets inside it.  (see attached pic.)  I bet you thought that was pretty cool.  The harsh reality is this:  It's totally retarded, show that to a bunch of engineers and they would gasp in disbelief.  You probably didn't realize how ridiculous that design is.  For sure you will get something out of the two coils wrapped around the toroid, but it's still retarded.  It's almost like it's out of Monty Python's Flying Circus.  If you don't know why I am saying that, start yourself on a learning course about electronics in parallel with your experimentation with the motor.

Here is the clip again:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kTzzAf_dw

There is no power amplification going on and demonstrating increased output voltage should be demonstrated and explained.  Unfortunately most likely Mike Kantz can't explain what is happening in that clip.

Here is a clip where it is clear that he cannot explain what is happening and there is no power amplification taking place:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3h2cEbHw&list=UUreJcMjYx-ovTpN4MomNNtw

So what is positive in what I am saying?  Now you know the truth about Quanta Magnetics.  You are a little bit wiser.  I am still encouraging you to experiment to your heart's content with your pulse motor.  However, now you know that many "remarkable effects" shown by Quanta Magnetics are explainable and not remarkable.  You also know that Mike Kantz can't explain them himself.  That means if you invest some time and put some effort into experimenting and learning, in a few short months you will have far surpassed what you see from Quanta Magnetics.

Put it this way:  If you have a trusted movie reviewer and he or she tells you a new movie sucks, then you just saved a hundred bucks because you don't take your wife and kids out to see that movie.  That is a positive.

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
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