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Author Topic: Electricity like you have never seen it before  (Read 9613 times)

Offline Panul

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Electricity like you have never seen it before
« on: October 13, 2014, 04:48:55 PM »
Here I want to make a thread about the greek physicist and mathematician professor Panos Pappas. He claims he disproved Einstein, Maxwell and pretty much most modern physics, he is a  fan of tesla and ampere and claims to have the correct and complete theory for electromagnetism, which he calls ampere-pappas theory. whats your opinions on his ideas? he also claims to have made a machine named papimi that heals with nanopulses and is sold all over the world and not only that but its also a form of a free enrgy device! (or at least holds the potential for the design of such a device)

http://www.panospappas.gr/ look only at the "science" parts and not pay attention to the national conspiracy theories.

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Offline MarkE

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 06:05:52 PM »
The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson.  I didn't see any actual scientific argument.


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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 06:14:52 PM »
The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson.  I didn't see any actual scientific argument.

why dont you have a public debate with prof. pappas if you are so certain about your claims. playing smartass with simpson jokes is easy, contributing is hard. in fact he has quite many proofs and suggestions there. maybe you didnt understand them? from now on i will report any comment that doesnt contradict (or complement) with maths or logical arguments his claims.

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 06:23:51 PM »
why dont you have a public debate with prof. pappas if you are so certain about your claims. playing smartass with simpson jokes is easy, contributing is hard. in fact he has quite many proofs and suggestions there. maybe you didnt understand them? from now on i will report any comment that doesnt contradict (or complement) with maths or logical arguments his claims.
I wasn't able to find any actual argument to discuss in that mess of a foaming at the mouth "Jew conspiracy", "I am the reincarnation of Ampere" mess of a web site.


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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 09:09:25 PM »
The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson.  I didn't see any actual scientific argument.

Ouch. The first clue that you are dealing with... shall we say... an extreme eccentric, is the scroll elevator bar on the right side of your browser window. Notice that a single screen is only a tiny fraction of that ONE web page. This is the internet equivalent of the run-on sentence that just meanders from point to point, sprinkling in lots of adjectives and adverbs to greatly enhance the reading pleasure of the poor innocent person who is just trying to get to whatever real point might be buried amongst the many different typefaces (a typographical layout no-no which only distracts the reader and might even wind you up with unbalanced parenthetical statements that divert the line of the sentence from the original topic which was what ,exactly, but nobody really knows or cares and then whenever someone objects to this totally unreadable style they get insulted by the Great Scientist's sycophants who really just want to make some kind of point but wind up arguing with experts from a position of ignorance instead.

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 09:09:25 PM »
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Offline Panul

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 12:13:02 AM »
Ouch. The first clue that you are dealing with... shall we say... an extreme eccentric, is the scroll elevator bar on the right side of your browser window. Notice that a single screen is only a tiny fraction of that ONE web page. This is the internet equivalent of the run-on sentence that just meanders from point to point, sprinkling in lots of adjectives and adverbs to greatly enhance the reading pleasure of the poor innocent person who is just trying to get to whatever real point might be buried amongst the many different typefaces (a typographical layout no-no which only distracts the reader and might even wind you up with unbalanced parenthetical statements that divert the line of the sentence from the original topic which was what ,exactly, but nobody really knows or cares and then whenever someone objects to this totally unreadable style they get insulted by the Great Scientist's sycophants who really just want to make some kind of point but wind up arguing with experts from a position of ignorance instead.

useless comment. i consider you no kind of expert since the only thing you talked about is the site's structure not the scientific theories that are proposed. are you so sensitive that you cant go through some "headache" to see if there is actual substance in his words? im noones sycophant you pull conspiracy theories out of your butt a strong indication of your own prejudice and imaturity. i'm really interested though in that machine of his that he claims can achieve 120% to 2000% overunity, and his ampere-pappas theory of eletromagnetism.

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2014, 09:18:57 PM »

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 07:45:34 AM »
Feel free to insult me all you like, I don't care. It's not going to make your dreams come true, and it's not going to turn Pappas into anything other than what he is. You think he's got a device that is OU, fine, go build it, test it and report your results here. You think he's got a better theory than QED and Maxwell's Equations, fine, demonstrate that by using his theory to design something and show that it behaves according to him and not according to Feynman. You asked for comments on the link you posted... and you got them. You don't have to like them or agree with them but unless you can _refute them_ you might as well just stick to your insults and complaints, for all the effect you have on anything.

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 12:20:48 PM »
i don't have the money to test them. i would. we are a relatively poor family that barely makes it. why don't YOU try it and show us the results. all the maths are correct though. i've studied hos works and there is nothing mathematical i can refute. as for the contradictions to some popular physics theories its simply because these theories are wrong and lacking. and pappas along many others have proven that already.

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 05:09:13 PM »
i don't have the money to test them. i would. we are a relatively poor family that barely makes it. why don't YOU try it and show us the results. all the maths are correct though. i've studied hos works and there is nothing mathematical i can refute. as for the contradictions to some popular physics theories its simply because these theories are wrong and lacking. and pappas along many others have proven that already.
What have you done so wrong in life that made you the way you are?

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2014, 09:35:42 PM »
Isn't it happening all the time; Someone claims he has discovered OU, but does not have the money. They ar all very ill, on the droorstep to death, very very poor as well. And ofcourse ask someone else to build and test.


I can say this: OU does not exist in our world. If it did, practically everything could be OU. This worlds physics does not have potential for OU, and therefor will never exist no matter how you put parts together.


The closest to OU we can get is the sun. Harness its energy and you'll have free energy for at least the next 5 billion years. No one needs to spend their life, money and work into building something that isn't supplied with an energy source.


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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 10:47:56 PM »
What have you done so wrong in life that made you the way you are?

what an inhibited and poisonous comment. what have you done to be the poisonous viper you developed into? you mammas boy born in feathers and silk. in case you didnt know most people born in poor families, die poor. im a mere worker that makes a few money barely to live. and i didnt even start a family yet cause my parents still need my economical aid. life wasnt so easy for everyone kiddo.


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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 10:50:39 PM »
Isn't it happening all the time; Someone claims he has discovered OU, but does not have the money. They ar all very ill, on the droorstep to death, very very poor as well. And ofcourse ask someone else to build and test.


I can say this: OU does not exist in our world. If it did, practically everything could be OU. This worlds physics does not have potential for OU, and therefor will never exist no matter how you put parts together.


The closest to OU we can get is the sun. Harness its energy and you'll have free energy for at least the next 5 billion years. No one needs to spend their life, money and work into building something that isn't supplied with an energy source.


Vidar

wrong. in the center of the sun only a 25% is from nuclear reactions 75% is from what we call genic energy. there is overunity in that universe. no doubt about it. as there are superluminal speeds and ampere's energy. do not bite the propaganda so easily...

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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 05:00:55 AM »
Quote from http://panospappas.gr/university.htm:

"Notice 0, The left or entering electron end effect is always accelerating, favouring our conclusions and results for the creation or excess energy."

I understand that in this case a grid placed on electron path attracts this electron and thus accelerates it until it reaches the grid. However, the same attraction works on both sides of the grid, so, the attraction force from the grid still makes an influence on the electron and decelerates it after passing the grid. Thus all the energy gained on left side of the grid is lost while on the right side.
 
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Re: Electricity like you have never seen it before
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 07:01:24 PM »
Quote from http://panospappas.gr/university.htm:

"Notice 0, The left or entering electron end effect is always accelerating, favouring our conclusions and results for the creation or excess energy."

I understand that in this case a grid placed on electron path attracts this electron and thus accelerates it until it reaches the grid. However, the same attraction works on both sides of the grid, so, the attraction force from the grid still makes an influence on the electron and decelerates it after passing the grid. Thus all the energy gained on left side of the grid is lost while on the right side.

The orbit is like a circle or an arc of a circle. the Force exerted on the electron is always vertical to the direction of its speed, thus the  magnetic field neither adds or takes energy from the subject. the speed u can be analysed in the ux and uy. uy is the extra speed added in every loop, it is excess energy being created. All the added screen is doing to correct and control the end effect of the field on the right of the capacitor.  The end effect of  the capacitor is affecting  velocity U  to a small extend, depending on the vertical position, of the electron, going out of this capacitor, whether it is closer or less closer to the separated positive plate from the negative one. Using the screen this vertical position of the electron  dependency  is eliminated. Provided, the particular electron is not hitting the solid metal grid of the screen by pure chance, and it is not absorbed by or distorted by the solid metal grid of this screen.

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