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Thinking on a beach...
« on: September 12, 2006, 10:27:16 PM »
...this time on a gravity coast,border about falling bodies and waves,I must remind the natural law :no waves ,no fresh move,energy ,power.This time the Ocean is not before us,it can be upwards.It appears to be a potential source of power only,as an unseen ,huge but frozen cascade of "dry" water(Friedman's perception):it's a kind of flow that manifests apart,when we see falling bodies.As we can notice at the sea-shore,the "wet" water waves have different shapes to the beach vs. on the beach(here a longer up time and a short-energy releasing time).Now,let's look up and try to imagine,understand something alike,regarding the gravitational field... a kind of flow or an equivalent that we can obtain.Gravity only pushes vertically downwards;it's irrotationally,we can't change or bend it in a some  way .At the sea-shore we have the pendular motion of the incoming waves and an inclined plane.So,again the basic mechanics:lever(pendular lever,a paired pendulum /counterbalanced pendulum/Roman balance) and the inclined plane.Pendulum is not only a time keeper(clock,mechanical oscillator),but also a transformer,a "waver", mechanical wave  effect-maker,if we take into consideration that fraction of the gravity push that we have in "hand" for the torque.This one is a result,an effect,a consequence of a complete fall,swing in gravity of an elementary pendular path motion.Can we consider this one as a real mechanical wave?So says mathematics:it help us to see that gravity fall component "on the radius",as a sine push-movement.More:it's the only one that we can collect "outside".but...a single moment.Friction and others...works  "against us".The pendular motion seems to be as a reflexive "mirror" flux,wave-flow;the power comes and goes back/if not seized,or if it is catched,this happens one time only:no continuity,no self-process,no "procedure"...so no hope for a non-stop working device or arrangement.Thinking again at the sea-shore(gravity "beach") about the shape of the incoming water waves(pendular motion+inclined plane) and reminding the so old Roman balance,settled so easy to perform a double-swing pendular motion,with the help of an inclined plane(only flexing the long arm end part!),have we that long ascending wave?Sine becomes a " beach wave"?Imagination,as a fictional image-map,from time to time,occasionally meets the real world.But when you will remind Newton,the father  of gravity law:"I feel myself as a child  playing on the  shore of this huge Ocean....".This time the Ocean can be gravity,so take a look up ,for a moment,at least.All the Bests!/Alex...an Inertial Sailor

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Re: Thinking on a beach...as Newton...
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 06:21:47 AM »
...addressing,in a letter,to his nephew:"I know not what I appear to the world,but to myself,seems to have been only a boy playing on the sea-shore ,and diverting myself in now and then,finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary,whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me".It's a so great lesson from  a man that masters understanding of gravity over our ephemeral time.It was an expression of the gratitude of his heart,soul and a manner of love with eternity.Remind ,sometimes that we are "only a boy playing...". Best Regards!                                                    /Alex

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Gravity waves...
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 06:34:09 AM »
can have an open expression,evidence as a pendular motion.As light in a mirror.Best Regards!/Alex

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Set them free...
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 06:55:21 AM »
....these gravitational waves,as on a beach,sea-shore.In physics,gravity is the tendency of mass-objects TO ACCELERATE toward the "ground" level.Mass falls to the ground when set free.So,to speed-up,increase in speed or velocity,it "ask for time".TIME IS THE KEY PROBLEM,so that the gravity power to "precipitate",increasing that power to "press down" and "via" torque and momentum energizing our enduring attempts(so many...) to open the door for an overwhelming clean energy.So,let's play mass and time to OPENING UP(as "stepping on the gas" when driving a car),with an appropriate "wheel"(if you want...),or more easy with that pendular lever/Roman balance "modified",or your own design.Keep in mind:give time to fall,to flow that real gravitational wave:long charge-short discharge tempo,pulse.Think about time.As said Plutarch "Time is the wisest of all counselors" . All the Bests!/Alex  ...an Iertial Sailor

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2006, 01:01:31 AM »
hello iacob alex,
there is a german engineer with name Emil Johannes Pfautsch("armer"Rentner),
look for his developments/inventions ( www.dpma.de ),
probably similar thinking/intention !

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2006, 02:54:55 AM »
Hello de Lanca!Thanks for data.Sometimes I visit this kind of "shops" when they have free entrance.Face to face to the net huge wave of data/information they play a perdant way:money.It's not my style,that is the reason I am on your forum.Patent offices ask for money as lottery,they closed the door for free thinking.We play a planetary aquarium,globally but they in a closed box.So,you know about that happy chance.Freedom of thinking and expression is the winner,alltimes.I will try to type this name on net,separately,the name Emil Johannes Pfautsch/"armer" rentner,with curiosity.Anyway,thanks!Best Regards!/Alex...an Inertial Sailor

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2006, 04:10:07 AM »
Hello "sailor",
 www.dpma.de  http://depatisnet.dpma.de
 is the cost-free info-webpage of the  german patent-office where
you  can receive all international(WIPO) patent documents !
The expression "armer Rentner" means "poor recipient of pension",
so this will not help by the net-search !

But all his,Emil Johannes Pfautsch, publications are in german language !

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 08:28:14 AM »
Hi Lanca!Just I visited "the Patente Buro/Amt" regarding our "armer Rentner"(a kind of "money in hand").Five patents(1986-98),regarding some machines to get energy by manipulating two permanent magnets,or superconductive coils.Irish Steorns,seems to be with the "proof in hand"(let's wish them success!) on the same path.Emil Pfantsch  has a patent regarding a "centrifugal acceleration propulsion plant".Propulsion and plant words are hard "mixing",to achieve,to imagine something, a "start idea"...About his thinking mood,no information.By the way,if you search:  www.evert.de  there is a "big german thinking aquarium" regarding the topics of our forum.German language is constructive,productive but it's not for wanderers,inertial sailors...as me!So I prefere  a mixture a kind of franglish .What a pitty about some "lost" sites!(as  www.space-drives.org ),a true collection of  a worldwide patent drawings(the ''new wave" from Asia/Japon,South Korea...is very intuitive).It seems that here is an "unseen war" between open doors(forums) and their closed shops(patent booths,cubicles).Money talks,as usually but people talk,also...there are two ways.Science ,in my opinion,is simply common sence /perception+observation+logic+intuition+destiny matter of choice.You can steal,borrow,seize,inspire an idea but not his constellation.This one,without a communicative way,medium is a lonely "being" on the time river:a common disappearance.So,long live forums,these global village virtual chat rooms.It's a common wealth.An English Style.All the Bests!/Alex

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Funny science....
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2006, 10:53:22 AM »
...nothing new under our Sun.Thinking about the poor people and their unequal-arm balance,the steelyard ...an ancient device still used in some places,because of its simplicity,portability and low cost...vs. our "advanced" technology and huge mass  of "paper-science",let's open the eyes about this wonder of mechanics.The greatest science is reality.It can be a "starting-line" regarding our unceasing seek for fresh energy as waves.Really we repose on a gravity beach,except waves...seldom on the clouds,as painted by a magic hand.This steelyard,Roman balance ,body-fulcrum relation in gravity and inertia has the beauty of  clarity,intelligibility.As we can talk with someone in a easy,natural language.So,let's voice,put in words.The first step is easy:we release the steelyard in a common full up-down fall (180 degrees)/pendulum like motion.The second and last step,that is intended to lengthen this fall(more then 180 degrees),is yours.In a short story:an habitual  charge-discharge tempo of a pendular fall is intended as a charge-charge -discharge rhythm.An anisochronic,asymmetric pendulum.After we make a "balance-sheet",have we some good news?Let's hope!All the Bests!/alex

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2006, 06:20:55 PM »
Hello iacob alex,
I thought about his,Emil(Johannes) Pfautsch,Osmose-/sea wave-/flow generator !
Less about his other kind of inventions.

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Re: Thinking on a beach...
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2006, 08:51:57 PM »
Hello de Lanca!Searching on net your information{Emil(Johannes)Pfantsch,Osmose-/sea wave-/flow generator} I had no interesting results:something about abstracts mathematics only...The strange situation is that we try to understand physics with the help of mathematics!?What kind of "tailoring phenomena"?Do we really  know the Nature's "measuring method"?If he(Emil Pfantsch) is intending an associative,comparative means  gravity(sea waves) as a diffusion(osmosis phenomenon) through an interface(the wall of a living cell,generally a semipermeable membrane ),so to equalize a difference...in my opinion,it can be "something",a "far connection",a very general "touch" description.The details are quite diverse.A flow,a flux is more lucrative,fruitfu  in my opinionl.By the way,a fuzzy problem:when you have not such "fit ,appropriate tools" as "final" mathematics and physics ,how can you figure the reality ?"De Rerum Naturae" "posture" can help us ,so to make use, of our first a,b,c...steps in phisics and mathematics.We are not at the end of science,but on the way.Best Regards!/Alex

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Fishing gravity waves...
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 08:11:04 AM »
...like any fishing ,depends on  your style.If you notice the technique on the beach,for deeper waters ,let's say that we use the pendular cast.The secret is the same,the momentum:instead of loading from a stand still,we are loading  on a moving bait...a full pendulum extended cast(or "fall"...).The pendulum cast is a very powerfull cast.This time we are "fishing" gravity  and "deep water" inside it,is inertia.If we remind that loop current rings,eddy,vortex in a flow,linear flux that develops sometimes ..we have a natural suggestion.We know about that "mgh" barrier,interdiction to get a self pendular motion in gravity.But...if we vision (not dream,because we are not asleep and the fit images are so many around us) about an energetically,powerfully,pressing motion so to stimulate a phenomenon of a rotating body?We are interested in a kind of transfer,substitute as  that of an eddy in the water,this time in gravity:a certain self-sustained oscillator,an autorotation.If a pendulum has enough energy to rotate without falling back,it depends on the initial conditions.So,let's remind about again about the "fishing" method on the "beach":a full pendulum extended cast.This time down,so a longer down motion between the same limits,levels imposed by the "mgh" restriction.A two step fall,one step rise("remake" of the top position).If a full pendular motion begins with an incipient velocity,we have something different.Can we get this one in a "self manner"?That's all the problem.A pendular pumping on one side only,a gravity self-pulsatory eddy.We have a potential flux,we need the "visage",shape or this resistive body,like a stone that exposes an eddy,a whirlpool in a river.Speak to the nature and it shall teach thee.All the Bests!/Alex

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Spiraling gravity...
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2006, 06:24:54 AM »
...it's a kind of fishing energy that we can notice around as:whirlpools,tornadoes,sunspots,galaxies.Can we exit from the "vicious" circle and transit to the "spira miriabilis"?from an old mentality(destroy,"eat" structures to get energy) to that of electronics(play atom's "wonders" to get...what you want)?. Some people try by "splitting"  a  magnetic core,ring(circle) or with a spiraling antenna to the sky.They hope to harness some "free" magnetic energy from the Earth.Anyway it's a tiny("soft") one, a kind of 1/1836(electrons/nucleus).If we think a little,let's hope to get more...The natural suggestion is to utilize a vortex-antivortex "hook" /method for this set of energy wave-"fishes".The hooks are many shapes.For gravity  the "hook" is a pendulum,one fit for  spiraling it:something that plays as the mechanical spring of a classic clock.So,let's go back in nature for information:all wonder is the effect of it on our lack of knowledge...or inapplication.All the Bests!/Alex

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Falling chimney...
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 02:55:44 AM »
....you can find data about this subject if you type the binomial:a plenty of,beggining with "falling stick demo" to actual comments about WTC destruction as a "falling chimney effect"(that difference beteen the  theoretical fall time 9,1 sec of the top and the real/effective fall time -8 sec of the full structure).It was a tragic lesson of physics...what a pitty about people!It's a moment to think more dealing with gravity,linear free fall,rotational free fall that produces higher accelerations,in a a single word with regard to a full fall of a pendulum.Some comments you can find at #198   www.inter-corporate.com./iacob_alex/Stellarotor.htm    and not only.In my opinion ,pendulum(mass-arm,foot/tail-fulcrum) is a synthetic and generative representation of the mechanical world,that we can use efficiently in our first line designs.All the Bests!/Alex

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Falling chimney on inclined plane...
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2006, 03:40:22 AM »
...at #199   www.inter-corporate.com/iacob_alex/Stellarotor.htm   All the Bests!/Alex