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Author Topic: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion  (Read 6735 times)

Offline roth

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Not possible? Read on and asses.

First thing you need is land of course, which i do not have or i would have an example already.

You will need to be on a large hill, in the mountains or build a large tower.  So to start with a large pool, pond or container for the water. So you will pump the water from the source to the top of the wheel to turn a generator to generate power, batteries will have to start the pump to start with, then a switching circuit will go from batteries to generator to run the pump. Want to store power add more batteries ( not necessary ) This power should be enough to run the pump. Catch the water from below the wheel on a channeled ramp and let it flow to another wheel below it for more power. Need more do it again ect...  Then have the water end up at the source to be used again.

So simple i am sure others have done it but i have never ever seen one or seen it posted. I see no reason this should not work. Some day i will build it. Have at it if you wish.


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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 05:19:30 AM »
First off, let me say that I am glad you left the word "and" in between the words, "read on" and "asses" in your second sentence.  I was reading a little fast and glossed over it the first time.  If you'd left it off, such a sentiment would have fit right in here on the forum, such as it is, as of late.

I gather that you were speaking of something like the following, but of much greater scale?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KtFZMN7_Bw

TS


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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 08:26:42 AM »
Not possible? Read on and asses.

First thing you need is land of course, which i do not have or i would have an example already.

You will need to be on a large hill, in the mountains or build a large tower.  So to start with a large pool, pond or container for the water. So you will pump the water from the source to the top of the wheel to turn a generator to generate power, batteries will have to start the pump to start with, then a switching circuit will go from batteries to generator to run the pump. Want to store power add more batteries ( not necessary ) This power should be enough to run the pump. Catch the water from below the wheel on a channeled ramp and let it flow to another wheel below it for more power. Need more do it again ect...  Then have the water end up at the source to be used again.

So simple i am sure others have done it but i have never ever seen one or seen it posted. I see no reason this should not work. Some day i will build it. Have at it if you wish.
There are numerous pumped hydro installations around.  While they are useful and among the lowest cost ways of storing energy, none of them self-power.

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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 03:35:43 PM »
First off, let me say that I am glad you left the word "and" in between the words, "read on" and "asses" in your second sentence.  I was reading a little fast and glossed over it the first time.  If you'd left it off, such a sentiment would have fit right in here on the forum, such as it is, as of late.

I gather that you were speaking of something like the following, but of much greater scale?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KtFZMN7_Bw

TS
Nice machine, but not at all like i meant.   Water wheel would be high enough to drop water on another water wheel to run another wheel with same water and repeat as necessary.


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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 08:55:24 PM »
Hi folks, hi roth, i have thought about your idea in the past as well.
How about a smaller scale floor model, 4-5 feet high or so to run some led lights or charge batteries in addition to the ones for the water pump.
At least with this smaller model, we should be able to prove the concept.
The water wheels could be unbalanced water paddle arms that extend and retract as it goes around, that might increase output.
I'll draw something up here when i get the chance.
peace love light

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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 08:55:24 PM »
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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2014, 10:54:06 PM »
Roth, I know what you meant, however you will need extremely efficient machines in succession in order to make the project worth building full scale.  This is what makes the whole idea unfeasible. The necessity of building numerous machines combined with the required energy to lift the water to starting point creates a massive meteor crator in the ROI before leaving the box.  Leave the box.

The future, if there is one, regarding 'free' energy, is in nano and sub-nano materials.

Consider the current limits of efficiency in producing electricity via EM induction.  This is where much fertile soil remains unturned on the frontier of energy research.  Study what occurs at induction itself, then consider ways to make the process more efficient than simply passing wires at right angles to magnetic fields.

Perhaps start with a simple deskstop experiment such as trying to find the most efficient way of causing one magnet to flip over with another magnet.  Once you are satisfied with your results, begin searching for ways to cause repeated interactions such that one or several PMs (permanent magnets) can reliably cause one or several other magnets to flip repeatedly.

After you are successful, you may dream of ways to increase efficiency such that no longer are costly mechanical interactions required.  But instead, accurately structured materials may be produced that generate copious amounts of energy by passing through magnetic fields at no cost.

Massive amounts of energy potential go unnoticed every day.  In fact, the greater the energy potential, the more subtle the avenues of exploitation often remain.

This is by design.

How hard are you 'really' willing to work to get something for 'free'?  And once you get it, how long do you wish to be able to share/enjoy it?

These are important questions to consider before beginning a journey of lasting importance.


http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/04/ancient-high-performance-electric-motors-discovered-that-are-still-in-production-2685290.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/06/pole-shift-of-noahs-day-about-to-happen-again-heres-the-evidence-you-decide-2461772.html


Good Journies


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Re: Water wheel without river or stream / free energy / perpetual motion
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