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Author Topic: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines  (Read 17507 times)

NathanCoppedge

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Re: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2014, 07:28:43 PM »

I am referring to your volitional energy term which you state as being equal to potential momentum. Momentum being mass x velocity. The units of momentum being [kg] x [m/s].

This is not an unit of energy.


It is my observation that momentum and energy have a hazy similarity in the case of simple perpetual motion machines, for the simple reason that (some) mass translates directly into energy in the case of any simple working machine. Because the mass and the energy are not the same number (and it would be arbitrary if they were), and it is ambiguous how much of the mass is contributing to energy, it seems  acceptable to declare that momentum, using mass and velocity, is comparable to energy, (in order to solve the problem). This is partly a way of deferring to conventional physics, but with the view that in a simple machine, velocity isn't inherent at all, and thus, everything amounts to mass, thus there is a principle of mass-momentum, or in other words, momentum without inherent velocity.


Also, your vector diagram for the Escher machine is unclear. Are these vectors all occurring in one plane?


The vectors are approximated, but you can kind of tell that they occur in a fan shape between the rightwards motion and the nearly-horizontal G-vector. As I have observed the rightwards motion is sometimes slightly upwards (1/160th to 1/320th of an inch per inch), because of the backboard pushing horizontally with relatively less resistance on the horizontal dimension, summed up by the formula H - V > V(H), referring to angles approximately.

The G-vector you can detect by noting the direction the backboard is pushing the marble. It is approximately perpendicular to the horizontal slope, and follows the angularity of the backboard.

The force vector is the G-vector modified by the angle of the horizontal slope. Thus, it is somewhat complex, because the angle is modified in three different dimensions.

The G-F differential is merely the vector in-between the G-vector and the force vector.

The direction of motion, on the other hand, follows the precise channel laid out by the cardboard arrangement, and thus modifies the force vector, which is somewhat horizontal and rightwards, yielding (sometimes) a slight upward motion, and I believe (in an even narrow set of cases) at no cost of energy.

Thank you for your interest in this simplest of machines.

NathanCoppedge

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Re: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2014, 07:45:28 PM »
I never actually saw this part, almost fell off my chair.
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Forever, he will be one of the best... everything was already layed out when we were born,
by people like Newton.

Perhaps the KGB owed me a favor for defecting to England, but to quote KGB Answers:

'Who is credited with "the theory of perpetual motion"?'
'Several scientist has been credited for their theories of Perpetual Motion such as Isaac Newton, Nathan Coppedge, and Albert Einstein.'

Read more http://www.kgbanswers.co.uk/who-is-credited-with-the-theory-of-perpetual-motion/22774483#ixzz2YiKUR4kz

Take it with a grain of salt, and it begins to make sense. Especially if my devices work. Perpetual motion machines might be remembered longer than the atomic bomb, if I get what I wish. Newton didn't invent the atom bomb, so by this logic, I might be greater than Newton, if and only if I was the only one to invent a working perpetual motion machine, which given the number of frauds, electric-focused tinkerers, slaves, and pure-businessmen, seems possible (if and only if).

NathanCoppedge

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Re: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2015, 01:55:31 PM »
New link on Volitional Science / Volitional Mechanics / Volitional Energy up at:

http://www.nathancoppedge.com/volitionalenergy.html

Maybe it will clarify some things for those that want the good stuff, rather than the bad stuff.

sm0ky2

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Re: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2015, 06:12:57 PM »
defining momentum in a theoretical time-space is clear, cut and dry...
however, momentum itself depends upon a discrete knowledge of a mass' velocity.
which we have no way of truly knowing.....

so, what we observe is "relative momentum". i.e. a mass' momentum relative to the motion of the observer.
while this in and of itself, certainly does not represent any absolute energy value, the momentum of an object
CAN however translate purely to energy in specific cases.
Momentum is always conserved

one such case here on earth, is an object placed 9.8 meters above the ground.
here, if the object were to fall, time (s) = 1
the final momentum of the object at the time of impact is the same as its' energy.
and the potential energy at the start of the system.
now, there are other momentums to consider,
at moments smaller than 1s, which is why they can only be considered the same under certain conditions.
but for the analysis of the system, we will use 1 second.
during this one second, the potential energy of the object became kinetic energy
while momentum (from our inertial frame of reference) increased
from 0 to a value that is equal to both the initial potential energy and the final kinetic energy.
In this case, the Violition Energy would be something like:
VE= system energy + the OU energy = Momentum + a larger than expected crater when the object hits the ground.

there are other areas of physics where time falls out of the equation and momentum and energy translate as one.
magnetic fields, gravity, electrostatics, heat, light, etc....

if you consider the simplest form, as in a pendulum impact hammer, or a balance beam
momentum can be made to translate directly into energy in certain cases



Here's a question

If you push an object with one Joule of energy,
How many Newton-Meters/Meter are there across a distance of One meter?
you see? momentum is not the only thing we can translate from our energy.

the reason we have standard units, is because when you reduce them, they are all the same.
one cubic meter over 1 second of time, at sea level, standard temperature and pressure....
everything becomes 1 and our units are meaningless :)
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ABOUT THE ESCHER GRAVITY DEVICE:::::::::::::::
----MASTER ANGLE?!?!?!?!?------

Try this:   extend the boards with one "master angle"
very very very very very long, or as long as you can find the wood for.....
and see how high you can get it to roll, over a long distance.



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Re: Volitional Mechanics: The Science of Perpetual Motion Machines
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2015, 11:27:41 PM »
If you push an object with one Joule of energy,
How many Newton-Meters/Meter are there across a distance of One meter?
you see? momentum is not the only thing we can translate from our energy.

the reason we have standard units, is because when you reduce them, they are all the same.
one cubic meter over 1 second of time, at sea level, standard temperature and pressure...

ABOUT THE ESCHER GRAVITY DEVICE
----MASTER ANGLE?!?!?!?!?------

Try this:   extend the boards with one "master angle"
very very very very very long, or as long as you can find the wood for.....
and see how high you can get it to roll, over a long distance.

Given and granted the laws of physics work as they work. The question is, HOW do they work? Is there ever an exception, even relativistically (in the philosophical sense of relativism)? The Escher Machine is not the best example. The modular trough leverage device has more evidence behind it, although both have showed what appears to be acceleration.