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Author Topic: Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC  (Read 73147 times)

Offline pomodoro

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Any idea of why a more conventional circuit is not used? Those pulses of 300ns are not really ultra short at all, although that what the authors called them.

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Any idea of why a more conventional circuit is not used? Those pulses of 300ns are not really ultra short at all, although that what the authors called them.

I have been thinking about this on and off for a while - couple of years - when I found that it was impossible to buy a Sithy. Given that the Sithy is positively connected, always on, the term static inductor means to me turning the SiThy off is the circuit operation. In terms of logical procedure, therefore, this is a very simple circuit. The Sithy gate and inductor are the essential circuit components setting up a tuned response slightly <15ns out of phase. To my mind, if my analysis is correct, is would not become a static inductor circuit, only an apparent static inductor. The voltags are small so it should be possible to emulate the SiThy operation with a few more componebts without obfuscating the simplicity of this design. At the very least to see what sort of electrolysis response was achieved.

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In that circuit you are at the mercy of the inductance. No easy way of controlling the pulse width and keeping the same voltage or energy stored.  There are also no oscilloscope traces of what the actual output voltage reached across the electrolysis cell. It may never have reached the volts of the unloaded induction coil.  I'm sure many controllable circuits with small pulses and variable frequency have already been tried and tested on here and elsewhere with obviously not much luck. I'm tempted to try it out one day but many more talented folks over the decades have already.

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first off , NGK can be considered a house hold name , large  are rich.

they have 2 electronic components , static induction thyristor + static induction transistor .
these 2 devices exist in the world but they do NOT exist for anyone on the ground floor .

so on that basis do they exist ?

cars and motorcycles that run on water exist but dont exist on the exact same level
the inventor , the tech and the vehicle are discredited by people who have no access to them .
no one attempts to discredit a corporation ?

the only device I can think of that functions similar to SIThy is a magnetic reed switch on an induction coil .
both are normally on , switches .
the SIThy and SIT seem to be purpose designed + built for inductors

with the Japanese and Indian papers , they contain SIThy and FBT . FBT does not function as a normal transformer , commercial FBT have inbuilt diodes so the whole component has to be seen as a semiconductor , the secondary only conducts in 1 direction , forward bias and the primary coil functon is on ,off +idle


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In that circuit you are at the mercy of the inductance. No easy way of controlling the pulse width and keeping the same voltage or energy stored.  There are also no oscilloscope traces of what the actual output voltage reached across the electrolysis cell. It may never have reached the volts of the unloaded induction coil.  I'm sure many controllable circuits with small pulses and variable frequency have already been tried and tested on here and elsewhere with obviously not much luck. I'm tempted to try it out one day but many more talented folks over the decades have already.

I hear you! I wondered whilst reading the patent why they had put a circuit in the patent when they are talking an extra semiconductor layer in the thyrister substrate. So to my mind, there is a little bit of subterfuge going on. Essentially, there is a round robin through the thyrister -> coil primary-> gate diode ad infinitum. If I have understood the operation of the SiThy correctly, during this switching cycle current flows back to the SiThy from the inductor as the thyrister is being switched off. Essentially no current flows! All we have is a voltage potential which is why a double layer is formed at the point of dissociation. There is no energy transferred. Very, very, Teslian! Almost an electronic paradox! Similar to some extent to Puharic's dissociation, but, without the detailed work in setting up the ceramic coated nodes.

Hence, static Inductor!

Thanks

In the attached pdf I think the SiThy is the larger tubular shape to the right which is a series set of SiThy's.

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