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Offline ibpointless2

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4-Plate Capacitor
« on: July 14, 2014, 08:53:37 PM »
I would like to hear what you guys think about this...http://youtu.be/oMbSxXGOqSU


So I take 4 plates and separate them by a dielectric. I label each plate A through D, with plate A on the bottom and plate D on the top. I connect a battery to plate A and D and a meter to plates B and C. If I connect the battery I get a positive voltage that shows up on the meter that is connected to plates B and C. If I short out the plates A and D a negative but equal voltage shows up on plates B and C. So when I charge plates A and D from 0 volts to the VCC the B and C plates must start at VCC and go down to 0 volts as A and D get to VCC. When I short out A and D where they go from VCC to 0 volts the plates B and C go -VCC to 0 volts. [/font]

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4-Plate Capacitor
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Offline SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 01:32:45 PM »
Interesting, I wonder what happen when your charge AD remove battery discharge BC and what is left to AD.
Then, measuring capacitance and voltage will get you energy with this Eq: 1/2*C*V^2
Comparing energy input vs ouput at each cycle of charge/discharge and plate.

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 04:58:43 AM »
Lighting 3 LED's with the 4 plate capacitor... http://youtu.be/HPYru-yeId0


I get 3 flashes from LED's from one charge.


The brightness of the flashes is determined by the distance of the plates and not voltage.


The two LED's are connected so that they have opposite polarity so that you can see that the electricity goes both ways depending if your charging or discharging.

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 11:23:54 AM »
hello ib
may be you find this interesting:  http://jnaudin.free.fr/cstack/index.htm

I made one of these with 4 strips of aluminium duct tape tight rolled. (support paper oiled as dielectric)
My intention was to use it as a kind of isolation transformer for the output from an Adams type motogen.
Interesting results.

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 02:21:19 PM »
hello ib
may be you find this interesting:  http://jnaudin.free.fr/cstack/index.htm

I made one of these with 4 strips of aluminium duct tape tight rolled. (support paper oiled as dielectric)
My intention was to use it as a kind of isolation transformer for the output from an Adams type motogen.
Interesting results.


Thank you for the link, it was a good read. Its interesting how we all come from different places but end up on the same page.


What happen to Cris Paltenghe? did he ever continue working on it? It looks like this webpage is from 2001, did he make any advancements? From the write up it looks like he only used AC, I wonder if he ever did DC like a I did and seen the same effect? So many new questions. [/size]

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 02:21:19 PM »
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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 03:43:44 PM »
no idea about Cris P. This is the only reference I have about him.
I think sometime ago, I was inquiring about a "Steele Braden" electrostatic generator at energetic forum, and this subject aroused.
in my case, I was using it with AC from a piggy tail coil (to a load) as I said, but never tried it with DC.


I think that ideas are not originated in brain, they are like soap bubbles floating in the air, as humanity goes round and round, more minds are touched. :P

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 06:37:38 PM »
This is so interesting. When reading the jnaudin article and the paragraph after the last picture...I immediately recall the Testatika and how Baumann said "the trick is to keep the voltage alive". And people started to speculate that multiple "sheets" are within the pots etc. It somehow fits to this "C"-Capacitor.

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
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Offline ibpointless2

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 10:12:20 PM »
I uploaded a new Video...http://youtu.be/RsM1P4PW3jg


Its interesting to note that the LED's are opposite of each other but yet they both light up. Does this mean the current flows both ways at the same time?

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2014, 12:01:25 PM »
I uploaded a new Video...http://youtu.be/RsM1P4PW3jg


Its interesting to note that the LED's are opposite of each other but yet they both light up. Does this mean the current flows both ways at the same time?

I donĀ“t have an answer for your question, but my first thought was that when you make contact, (in fact you short the circuit) may be an imperceptible spark is produced.
As you certainly know you get then a pulsed DC which is a different situation. (even with one pulse).
Anyway, food for learning, so thanks for the video and the sharing.

Alvaro


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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2014, 03:40:11 AM »
I had someone message me about the 4 plate capacitor that they have replicated, here is the link to the video...
 https://archive.org/details/multiplate1[/font]


Glad to see others trying the experiment!

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Re: 4-Plate Capacitor
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2014, 04:19:59 PM »
Nice work... thanks for sharing!

 

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