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Author Topic: Akula eternal lantern 4  (Read 148390 times)

Offline d3x0r

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2014, 09:34:47 AM »

Edit: I think the schematic is correct... it's the capacitance on the transistor gate that causes the shut-off, because the voltage drops from the emitter conduction through to the base... so it's not a ground deform....


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The problem I end up with in simulations is .... a wire can only conduct one way or the other... I know that's not the truth because resonance is a back-standing wave... so there is a 2directional communciation...


The simulators fail if I have current flowing into or out of a capacitor on both sides at once....


Now I would think that the charge differential of that plate itself would be skewed asynch... but I cannot find any reference for this except maybe a 3 plate cap....


due to a 'displacement' current... then in must equal out... but I think in reality this is not the case..... and if you have an in it cannot at the same time be an out... so out and out or in and in is prohibited....







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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2014, 09:34:47 AM »

Offline pavqw

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2014, 02:56:06 PM »
Well, my results are much better now regarding to LaserSaber circuit.
I use 2222A NPN transistor and 80 turns in both coils. Blue LED is powered now for cca 25 seconds. I figured out it has to be grounded else transistor is not opened so much.
It was little bit tricky to open this transistor, still there are very huge losses. So I want to order MPSA18 and try it again :o
It is very interesting it is changing its brightness dramatically when I touching it in various places.

But for me it is nothing more than DC->AC converter so current is much lower because LED is ON only for few mili/microseconds in each period instead of 100%. Raw power in Joule Thief is same or am I wrong?

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2014, 05:54:33 PM »
Examine your assumptions.

If your assumptions are wrong or even just incomplete, your interpretation of data will suffer and your conclusions may not be correct.



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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2014, 07:49:06 PM »
Edit: I think the schematic is correct... it's the capacitance on the transistor gate that causes the shut-off, because the voltage drops from the emitter conduction through to the base... so it's not a ground deform....


Only one but, bipolar transistors not have gate, only base. :) Or not?


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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2014, 07:57:06 PM »
But for me it is nothing more than DC->AC converter so current is much lower because LED is ON only for few mili/microseconds in each period instead of 100%. Raw power in Joule Thief is same or am I wrong?
If I good understand you, then yes. Basicly joule thief have efficienty about 80-90 precents, but maybe LaserSaber get that effect like Akula in Lantern 4 and get efficienty more than 100 precents? Because joule thief use pulses, Akula also use pulses in his lantern 4 with frenquency 200-450 herc how I understand.
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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2014, 07:57:06 PM »
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Offline pavqw

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2014, 08:04:30 PM »
Indeed, but we dont know, if Akula devices are yet another self looping joule thiefs. If Akula can provide video with at least 24h video in for example microwave environment and then disasembling, measurement of each component where could be potentionally hidden some cells or super capacitors, then it can convince me. It could be fine if he can send at least one simple OU device to me :)
Of course I still believe there are over unity devices and I'll continue my own experiments.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2014, 08:14:56 PM »
Indeed, but we dont know, if Akula devices are yet another self looping joule thiefs. If Akula can provide video with at least 24h video in for example microwave environment and then disasembling, measurement of each component where could be potentionally hidden some cells or super capacitors, then it can convince me. It could be fine if he can send at least one simple OU device to me :)
Of course I still believe there are over unity devices and I'll continue my own experiments.
I'm afraid such a video wouldn't convince me, unless he did it in the presence of some credible scientists or academicians who would sign witness statements.

If he sent a working device to someone I can believe ... like me....,  that would convince me.

It might not convince you, though, if I reported that it _didn't_ work as advertised when I took it out of the box here.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2014, 08:14:56 PM »
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Offline pavqw

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2014, 08:39:05 PM »
I think presenting working device is not possible or is not very easy.
Each time something really worked, inventor was killed, arested or something.
It depends on country, but I think such devices should be opensourced as soon as possible.
It should'nt be patented. It takes a lot time to patent some stuff.
It must come to public as soon as possible with all details if inventor does not care about money.
Free energy is well documented in for example Sirius Disclosure or similar.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2014, 08:08:02 AM »
Look it up in 3V OU flashlight thread

~A

Many Thanks, Avalon,

but, among many, in which post, please?

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2014, 02:04:40 PM »
Only one but, bipolar transistors not have gate, only base. :) Or not?
sorry for me gate and base have the same function so the name is interchanable... might as well be drain collector or source and emitter...  :) 


car and automobile...


Falstad sim...


Was playing with this more, and it really does work better with your abbreviated schamentic to reverse L2's connections.  The first shove from the pulse is then into the LED's and the back pulls the high voltage... but then L2 is conducting from power to ground, and so is the choke rather than fighting....

Yes, you can build a high potential first, but then the current is from negative to the LEDs when the choke fires which meets and opposing current....



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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2014, 02:04:40 PM »
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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
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Offline d3x0r

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2014, 05:22:25 AM »
@MenOfFather


I threw together a demo of this, and the power draw is significantly reduced if the secondary is reversed, so the first pulse causes the top side to go Low... then when it springs back it goes high, which is in sync with the choke's current.




It's still drawing 40-80 mA at 9V though so 1000uF doesn't last very long... (was 160-240mA with the coil as it's shown)


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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2014, 01:47:33 PM »

*shrug*  someone could surely do this better... I used a lot of 1n4184 diodes in all places labeled diode...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uF5F0nGTQg




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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2014, 06:49:54 PM »

Hello,
Continue Akula 0083 flashlight 4 replica   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_saCBQHVIkY&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
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