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Author Topic: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator  (Read 10979 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2014, 07:51:15 PM »
I understand what you are saying.

Take your math and science and tell me, without any input into your math, what the final answer is.

The math by itself can only answer a question asked, but how do you find the question?

How do you know if there is an over simplification or something attributed incorrectly unless you go back many times and look at things in different ways.

Sharing knowledge and understanding is a good thing, and who knows,, maybe 10 minutes of someones time doing that can point someone else in a direction to find an alternate understanding that we all can grow from.

"your science and math?"

The great thing about science and math is that they don't belong to anybody. They are universals, and if two people are using the same data and getting different results... then (at least) one of them is wrong.

I will leave the conclusion as to which one is right and which is wrong ... to the reader.

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Offline webby1

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2014, 08:02:38 PM »
"your science and math?"

The great thing about science and math is that they don't belong to anybody. They are universals, and if two people are using the same data and getting different results... then (at least) one of them is wrong.

I will leave the conclusion as to which one is right and which is wrong ... to the reader.

Conceptually TK, "your" refers to those that have made the math, and the style that is being employed, not as in ownership.

I am sure you are aware of different "math",, Go tell Maxwell that he can only use the "math" that everybody else is using :)


Offline MarkE

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2014, 09:25:14 PM »
I understand what you are saying.

Take your math and science and tell me, without any input into your math, what the final answer is.

The math by itself can only answer a question asked, but how do you find the question?

How do you know if there is an over simplification or something attributed incorrectly unless you go back many times and look at things in different ways.

Sharing knowledge and understanding is a good thing, and who knows,, maybe 10 minutes of someones time doing that can point someone else in a direction to find an alternate understanding that we all can grow from.
We find out that our understanding is flawed when we observe phenomena that go against that understanding.  IOW, when we come upon evidence against our understanding.

Offline webby1

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 10:24:20 PM »
I would add repeatable to that.

I have many strange things happen,, but if I can not repeat them then the only thing I can say is I made an error,, but if I can repeat it, take it apart and put it back together and get the same thing,, then there would be evidence.

In the same vain as all that,, If I found something like this it would not be "me" who takes it far enough to either be useful or make a change, that is not in my wheelhouse.

Inspiration may have already been presented,, or not,, but you never know where it is going to come from.


Offline MarkE

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2014, 11:22:34 PM »
And therein lies the problem with free energy machine proposals based on things like gravity:  There has never been any evidence that the conservative nature of gravity can be cheated.  HER are no closer to anything that outputs any extra energy today than they were when they started.  It's ditto for the likes of James Kwok, and gurangax.  Sunday will begin gurangax' descent back into obscurity.

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
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Offline webby1

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Re: Using Gravity and Buoyancy to drive a generator
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 12:10:26 AM »
I think that we will get there.

I hope for the best but expect the worse,, keeps me flowing along in spite of all my errors :)

 

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