Cookies-law

Cookies help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
http://www.overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please leave this website now. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 493868
  • *Total Topics: 14514
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 7
  • *Guests: 108
  • *Total: 115

Facebook

Author Topic: KARPEN PILE  (Read 118505 times)

Offline orbut 3000

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 247
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2014, 04:13:58 AM »
So what's going to happen on August 20th?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2014, 04:13:58 AM »

Offline Philip Hardcastle

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 326
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2014, 04:17:17 AM »
So what's going to happen on August 20th?


Wrong thread, this is for Karpen Piles.

Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2014, 04:38:24 AM »
Yes phil the more surface area crammed into small space would widen the discharge curve closer to a battery but it would still be subject to how much current drain is on it.an redoxultracap is the closest thing to it yes.ipods need steady continous large currents for long periods so I have no idea how long such a thing would perform before needing rest for recharge. Patents are out my financial league so somebody is going to have to do that for me or for themselves and me,if its worthwhile.

Offline Philip Hardcastle

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 326
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2014, 04:49:37 AM »
@profitis, take out a provisional to cover the work you are doing, that will cost you a modest amount and give you a year to work on the idea, discuss it with scientists, and to offer it to financiers.


I remain open to the idea that the Karpen is a real 2LOT violating technology since the device has not been rejected by science but seemingly put into the mystery category. I assume that there is some evidence of output to temperature correlation, and I also assume that it has been tested in a blackout condition and with an iso-thermal chamber.


If there was enough evidence and some plan as to how to make a W/cm3 then I might be able to get you some support out of a few universities, but you would need to provide solid proof that the basics had been covered.


My email is pjhardcastle@gmail.com

Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 05:17:26 AM »
I'm aware of provisionals thanks phil. Yes they're definitely not stupid,they mustve tested the ins and outs of it ages ago and obviously something is fishy because of no official consensus.I've gotten a few very interesting documents off the net from publications by scientists who had studied it that are years old indeed indicating a 2lot violation. thanks for your offer to help,I might take it up as soon as I get a more full picture of the capabilities. It is truly a pandora box that may yet yield some diamonds or as sarkeizen calls it 'magic'.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 05:17:26 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2014, 06:05:18 AM »
I don't see seiko and co complaining about loss of buisness @sarkeizen so you may have overlooked something.the kinetic and the solar are hot sellers,probably more because of tech-nuts trenders buying them up as opposed to worrying about battery life.watches and clocks with regular batteries are boring,there's other reasons to buy an everlast.as I've said many times before,a combination of textbooks and lack of reason for irreversability is why humans should put their faith in my statements here.

Offline Madebymonkeys

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2014, 02:07:49 PM »
@profitis, take out a provisional to cover the work you are doing, that will cost you a modest amount and give you a year to work on the idea, discuss it with scientists, and to offer it to financiers.


I remain open to the idea that the Karpen is a real 2LOT violating technology since the device has not been rejected by science but seemingly put into the mystery category. I assume that there is some evidence of output to temperature correlation, and I also assume that it has been tested in a blackout condition and with an iso-thermal chamber.


If there was enough evidence and some plan as to how to make a W/cm3 then I might be able to get you some support out of a few universities, but you would need to provide solid proof that the basics had been covered.


My email is pjhardcastle@gmail.com

I haven't found much scientific testing on Karpens Piles at all on the web, just a guy measuring 1V with a DMM set to the 1000V range or something!
Is there a proper teardown and analysis somewhere?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2014, 02:07:49 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2014, 03:33:20 PM »
There's one pdf on the wikipedia article for nicolae vasilescu karpen @madebymonkeys. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nicolae_vasilescu-karpen . Go staight down to the bottom romanian reference from dogaru and cazacu from the society of inexhaustable energy. I'm going to see if I can make something impressive enough for your prize offer sir before the rest of the year is out.

Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2014, 11:04:33 PM »
and you forgot the watch stats of china? There's money in gizmo watches, period mr sarkeizen. Absence of evidence for a 2lot-obedience from something straight out the textbooks sticks out like a sore thumb don't be silly @sarkeizen.name one instance of a textbook principal that we cannot show enjoys 2lot besides this one..cmon try.. Its this which rules out an argument from 'ignorance'.

Offline Madebymonkeys

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 12:22:35 AM »
There's one pdf on the wikipedia article for nicolae vasilescu karpen @madebymonkeys. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nicolae_vasilescu-karpen . Go staight down to the bottom romanian reference from dogaru and cazacu from the society of inexhaustable energy. I'm going to see if I can make something impressive enough for your prize offer sir before the rest of the year is out.

Hmm, I can't work out if that document is bull€hit or not tbh.
1. I can't make sense of the math.
2. The English looks like a poor quality google translation.
3. It's based upon assumptions rather than a teardown and analysis of his Piles.

Could it be that his Piles are just low self-discharge batteries connected to a low power load?

If his piles are so interesting you'd think that someone would have analysed them by now, right?

I understand that a teardown would be destructive but it would give scientists (proper ones) the ability to replicate them - that would (if it isn't a hoax) be valuable. If they can't replicate then its a hoax. If they can, then we will all be walking around with iPods and massive batteries.

Given that this guys piles are sat on a 'secure shelf' providing no scientific or novelty value to anyone, maybe an offer should be made to buy them. Hey, if the museum can't afford an acrylic box and a padlock then it may cost less than you think! Offer the guy a case of wine or some crack, you never know!  :-*  :o  :(  :D

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 12:22:35 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2014, 12:36:03 AM »
@Madebymonkeys,you can show us that hydrogen or oxygen spillover is irreversable? Even on paper?

Offline Madebymonkeys

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2014, 12:53:20 AM »
@Madebymonkeys,you can show us that hydrogen or oxygen spillover is irreversable? Even on paper?

No, I can't show that because I don't know how or even understand what you mean...Even on paper!
Maths isn't my strong point at all. When I said I didn't understand the math I meant it - I didn't mean that it was incorrect  :-[

What I do understand is that the document must be based upon assumptions unless the author has investigated Karpens dirty, stinking piles.

Has anyone successfully replicated the piles or even had the chance to analyse them properly?....please don't say the guy with the DMM from the old photo, the one who used the 1000V range to measure 1V (he could have touched the probes on his own piles and got the same result on that range!)!  :o

Offline Madebymonkeys

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2014, 01:05:53 AM »

Offline profitis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3929
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2014, 01:27:20 AM »
Spillover is the textbook principal that makes it work @madebymonkeys sorry I didn't explain.many labs round the world have studied it but I don't know to what extent.perhaps they couldn't find efficient cost/benefit ratio or it could also be that they weren't allowed to advance to commercial injection its hard to say.if they had noticed a law of physics discrepency then it wouldve been hushhush as indeed it was and is but with internet here nowadays documents from labs are floating up left,right and centre from ages ago.some speak only in formula language that only scientists understand,others speak english and mention a kelvin law discrepency straightout,no shyness.

Offline Philip Hardcastle

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 326
Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2014, 01:34:30 AM »
@profitis, you are the expert on Karpen so I will ask you this;


Is it (in your opinion) possible for a working Karpen cell to have identical electrodes at opposing internal faces of a 1cm glass hollow cube, and to have a semi-permeable thin film midway between them such that one electrode is fully immersed in solution A, and the other in solution B?


Such an arrangement would allow the operation to work irrespective of its alignment with gravity.


If so then what would stop a Karpen cell being constructed just like a capacitor, and if so then why could it not be stacked thin film and 10 high with a surface area (per layer) equal to a laptop?


This is not my opinion, just a question as to what you believe could work.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: KARPEN PILE
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2014, 01:34:30 AM »

 

Share this topic to your favourite Social and Bookmark site

Please SHARE this topic at: