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Author Topic: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%  (Read 258700 times)

Offline CuriousChris

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2014, 10:36:38 AM »
That's the ugliest flywheel I have ever seen.

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2014, 11:11:01 AM »
I would add this to my previous post instead of newposting
if more than one global quote in a one post
could be displayed correctly on your forum:

ZippyShare helped. Thank you.

Quote from: hartiberlin
So avoid that by using ZippyShare

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2014, 11:11:49 AM »
That's the ugliest flywheel I have ever seen.
Hi CuriousChris,
The way it works is not the same as flywheel!.. and the effect that it is a pair of dumbbells achieve different than the cumulative force of the flywheel can be. . .  :D

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2014, 11:24:38 AM »
Use Adblock Edge in Your Firefox browser, then you will see no ads there...

Yes, some of these downloadservers use sometimes bad ad providers
which try to install add bars or tool bars or something like this...

So avoid that by using ZippyShare with an Adblocker in your browser.


yadda, yadda, yadda.

hartiberlin, I deeply appreciate what you are doing here. I am personally making a mighty effort to try to deliver Free Energy to the human civilization.

May I explain something to you?

Some of us, for one reason or another, do not happen to have fast computer rigs. Some of us are stuck with very, very SLOW rigs and internet connections which make it practically impossible to examine youtube videos or other materials other than the items which are the quickest and simplest to communicate with on the internet.

Some of us who are so computer-limited might be also among the set that might be the most able to actually deliver Free Energy to the human civilization.

When you distribute important information re 1939 power amplifier or whatever, it would serve your own best interest and ours, if you might distribute it also in the most accessible way assuming we have the slowest computer rig possible.

Many thanks to you!!


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2014, 11:37:10 AM »
I am having to guess about what is the working principle of this thing, since my computer rig is so slow that I have been unable to view any of the videos or such like that you all are talking about, but it sounds familiar.

I think I came across this thing a long time ago. I think it works.

I think that the most important thing is NOT whether it works, because it seems to work, but, how to remain un-murdered until it is effectively delivered into mass production and distribution to the global community.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2014, 11:46:07 AM »
Hi all
Thanks cipbranea and Stephan,  this is an interesting machine, I have quickly sketched the main elements. I might expand on this with more diagrams, I am in the middle of a few other tasks, I will try and squeeze a big effort on this if I can. Regards Arto.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2014, 06:43:30 PM »
This kind of looks like an application of something that I used to do as a kid. I would take a chair and spin it using my hand... imagine holding the top corner of the back and then balancing the chair on the leg (front leg, opposite side). I used to get it spinning by letting the weight of the chair 'fall'. It used to drive my mother nuts. You can get it spinning very quickly, by moving your hand in a circle. Just let it 'fall' and it 'seems' that there is very little energy being expended to do so. Anyway, I suspect that it's basically a flywheel effect... but I've never really thought about laying out the numbers.
Thanks Staffman - I just totally got how this thing works after reading your post and it makes complete sense.   I've done similar things in the past and can relate to that type of action.   

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2014, 12:22:49 AM »
Hi Arto,
many thanks for the drawing,
but if you use Mediplayer Classic to go frame by frame through the downloaded video
I posted you see, that the upper rods just only go back an forth, like a pendulum.
So at the very top there must the a conversion from rotatry motion from
the drive motor belt drive to a disc that goes only back and forth for 180 degrees
and then reverses again.

So the upper 4 rods only go back and forth like a pendulum.

So it would be interesting to find out, how he the conversion from rotatry motion to
this back and forth motion is done at the very top of the machine.
Unfortunately the whole machine is only seen in the begi´nning in just a few broken frames
and unfortunately only filmed very a bright background, so it is all hard to see...


Did anybody find the address of the Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. in an old
Telefphone book from Miami,Fl  ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2014, 12:52:01 AM »
Stefan


I don't live in FL, but I have emailed the Miami-Dade Library to see if they have some old phone books that could help. If I receive a response, I'll let everyone know. I did search the Florida Secretary of State Corporations database. The Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. was dissolved by proclamation in 1945. The specifics are unknown, Skinner could have failed to file the proper forms; it could have been for any number of reasons. Also, Skinner's address was not listed either. I'll let you know if the library returns my email.


Staffman

Edit... (link to the business info... or should I say lack of info...)
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/EntityName/domp-136668-9c069ead-0077-4ac7-8517-eb226467f2cd/Skinner%20Manufacturing/Page1



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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2014, 02:02:47 AM »
Stefan,   If you take a chair and do as Staffman described (at least his description was clear to me - probably because I had done that with a chair or similar object before) I think you can see the motion that is happening with Skinners device.    It seemed intuitive to me how this works in that you are leaning an object on an axis in a way that it wants to fall but being on an axis it will spin as long as you keep a slight pressure on the top point of the axis just keeping it ahead of where it wants to go.   With very little input it wants to spin and due to the weight and centrifugal force it may very well be a way of utilizing gravity as an energy source.   Or so that's my take on what Skinner was doing thanks to Staffman's description of this action.    Right after seeing his description I grabbed a small 4 leg chair and tried this again to get a clearer sense of this action.   On an intuitive level I'm not sure if this can create free energy but it seems it may be possible. 

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2014, 04:17:37 AM »
Thanks Staffman for the help to loacte him.

Well I might have found his death certificate in 1974:


https://www2.miami-dadeclerk.com/Public-Records/Search.aspx


County Recorder's Official Record Search CFN Details
CFN #1974 R 36396, Group ID #1 

   First Party (Code):   SKINNER, WILLIAM I S EST OF (D)   Second Party:   WHOM CONCERNED   Subdivision Name:   
   Legal Description:   
Clerk's File No: 1974 R 36396 Rec Date:  02/13/1974 Doc Date: 
Entry Date: 09/26/2007

Rec Book:  8595 \ 915
Second Party: SKINNER, WILLIAM I S EST OF

Clerk's File No: 1974 R 36396
Rec Date: 02/13/1974
Entry Date:  09/26/2007

 Rec Book: 8595 \ 915




Too bad no address came with it...
Is there any chance somebody could call such an office and
ask for the address ?

Here are more resources, but as I am from Germany, I don´t know about ancestor research in the
USA...

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/florida-genealogy/

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2014, 06:01:56 AM »
The movement of the top rod is vital as this is where it is driven, the gear on top of the rods move in a long elliptical path that touch the worm gear at about 15%(more or less) of the time, this constitutes a form of impulse drive, each arm getting an impulse when the worm gear engages, in a sequential fashion. There is enough information to build this device, the rest will be mere details. Regards Arto
 


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2014, 09:51:29 PM »
Stefan,


I took a quick look at the genealogy web site you gave. I have found some information...

On the link below, I found where Skinner and family were listed on the 1935 census in Florida.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11762-126047-68?cc=1457856

Skinner's youngest son William Burr Skinner (3 years old at the time, 1935) may still be alive.

A search for Skinner's son, turned up one entry for FL... Same name, same age, same city.... It lists the address and phone number.
http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/william-skinner/11780924


Good luck!!!



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Edit for clarity.........
« Last Edit: May 24, 2014, 05:03:12 AM by Staffman »

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2014, 05:23:44 AM »
Many thanks Staffman.
Can a native English speaking member please call him and ask him about the
machine of his father ? Does it still exit ? And if not, was it sold
or scraped and when ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2014, 10:36:32 AM »
Hi CuriousChris,
The way it works is not the same as flywheel!.. and the effect that it is a pair of dumbbells achieve different than the cumulative force of the flywheel can be. . .  :D

A flywheel is a store of kinetic energy. all those spinny things in the video store kinetic energy. a pendulum also stores kinetic energy.

That contraption does nothing more than store kinetic energy. so its essentially a clumsy flywheel.

And that's how he can use the lathe. The lathe uses power intermittently. thus draws it out of the "kinetic store" but I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was also another power source. 


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
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