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Author Topic: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication  (Read 16357 times)

Offline citfta

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2017, 11:09:08 PM »
Since when is core loss measured in Ohm's ?

That's easy to answer.  When you get your education from DumbTube.

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2017, 11:45:02 PM »
Since when is core loss measured in Ohm's ?
I'm referring to the loss in the core due to resistance caused by magnetic viscosity and wire resistance. If you place a cap in series with the core at resonance you can measure this resistance. Does that help?


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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2017, 12:16:09 AM »
That's easy to answer.  When you get your education from DumbTube.
Haha good one. My usage of the word "loss" was a grammatical description, not a factor or unit of measurement such as "loss factor."

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2017, 12:59:53 AM »
I'm referring to the loss in the core due to resistance caused by magnetic viscosity and wire resistance. If you place a cap in series with the core at resonance you can measure this resistance. Does that help?
A little, because the loss of energy in the winding's resistance is a separate phenomenon from the loss of energy in the core, which is a separate component of an inductor or a transformer (...and an optional one at that).

Note, that I am only guessing that you mean energy loss or more precisely the undesirable conversion of other forms of energy to heat.

FYI: core loss is measured in J/kg per cycle or J/m3 per cycle.  The loss of energy in a wire's resistance is called Joule heating and is equal to i2R so it is a function of current as well as resistance.


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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2017, 01:25:01 AM »
I'm fully aware of that. I use spice sims extensively prior to building most of my circuits. Spice needs  to know resistance.

I'm not going to get into the physics of this tech, yet, but it's very difficult to build a self-runner unless one uses low loss cores. Anyhow I just thought it would be more meaningful to people to specify resistance, which causes loss. It's the parameter I would be prefer to see.

Additionally it helps to know the cores Z, X, and R curve. The core I showed in photo is fairly linear up to at least 11MHz with respect to R. IOW, twice the frequency will double R. Although to my surprise it appears to have a "sweet spot" around 330KHz where R is significantly less.

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2017, 01:25:01 AM »
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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2017, 08:52:45 AM »
I'm not going to get into the physics of this tech...
Then you are are a proponent of flying blind

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2017, 01:33:07 PM »
I'm fully aware of that. I use spice sims extensively prior to building most of my circuits. Spice needs  to know resistance.

I'm not going to get into the physics of this tech, yet, but it's very difficult to build a self-runner unless one uses low loss cores. Anyhow I just thought it would be more meaningful to people to specify resistance, which causes loss. It's the parameter I would be prefer to see.

Additionally it helps to know the cores Z, X, and R curve. The core I showed in photo is fairly linear up to at least 11MHz with respect to R. IOW, twice the frequency will double R. Although to my surprise it appears to have a "sweet spot" around 330KHz where R is significantly less.

I don't know what the heck you are measuring but resistance does not change with frequency.

Impedance changes with frequency.

Have you seen a self-runner?  If not, then how do you know you have to have a low loss core to attain one?

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Carroll

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2017, 04:22:32 PM »
I don't know what the heck you are measuring but resistance does not change with frequency.

Impedance changes with frequency.

Have you seen a self-runner?  If not, then how do you know you have to have a low loss core to attain one?

Respectfully,
Carroll
Hey I think we have our wires crossed somewhere. As the frequency increases the core will almost always lag more which is seen as increased resistance in the circuit. You can verify this in FEMM or better yet real life if one is careful and knows what they're doing. :)

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2017, 04:32:07 PM »
Some measurements taken with the core shown a few posts ago

@48.3KHz 2.3uH 0.125Ohm (4.7uF(big square red, WIMA 63V))
@183.8KHz 2.3uH 0.36ohm (330nF(large green))
@331KHz 2.3uH 0.19ohm (.1uF(big blue, verified on WIMA .1uF))
@912KHz 3.0uH 1.8ohm (10nF(WIMA red))
@5.4MHz 0.4uH 12.5ohm (2.2nF)
@11.58MHz 0.4uH 24.2ohm (470pF(burgundy mica))

Circuit is the coil in series with a cap and a 0.05 ohm resistor, connected to a signal gen. Voltage is measured across the signal gen and the 0.05 R. The signal gen is adjust to resonance, and the core resistance is calculated as

Rcore = Vs / (Vr / R) - R

where Vs is signal gen voltage, Vr is voltage across R (0.05 ohms), R is 0.05 ohm resistor

You'll  most likely need to view the voltages or at least Vr on a spectrum analyzer unless Vr is high enough above noise to an accurate reading.

Vr / R is the circuit current.

Vs / (Vr / R) is the total resistance.

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »
It's nice to see that someone actually knows just how to build an electronic self running free energy device and what circuit elements and parameters are important in doing so.

I'll repeat Carroll's question, which you didn't answer. Maybe you just missed it:

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Have you seen a self-runner?  If not, then how do you know you have to have a low loss core to attain one?


So, TR, when will we be seeing _your_ self runner demonstrated?

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2017, 04:36:22 PM »
The bump in inductance seen at 912KHz is not uncommon for cores just prior to when their inductance starts to decrease with frequency. I've seen this in plenty of amidon core graphs.

The low R anomaly seen at 331KHz is interesting. I verified that on two different caps thinking it was just a very efficient cap, but it seems not due to the caps. The thinking was the perhaps a lot of the R at other frequencies was due to some cap R and the cap at 331KHz had low R, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2017, 04:44:37 PM »
You are confusing impedance with resistance.  Unfortunately they are both expressed as OHMs.  They are not the same thing.  Impedance does change with frequency but resistance does not.

Respectfully,
Carroll


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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2017, 04:52:23 PM »
It's nice to see that someone actually knows just how to build an electronic self running free energy device and what circuit elements and parameters are important in doing so.

I'll repeat Carroll's question, which you didn't answer. Maybe you just missed it:


So, TR, when will we be seeing _your_ self runner demonstrated?

Hm, lets see if this posts goes through. I didn't want to expand on that but yes. I want to simplify it, do experiments at other locations to make sure it works well enough, and then drop it on Elon Musk's desk. If he kicks me out without a deal then I'll post the details at every applicable website I can find. FYI this device does not utilize magnetic fields as a source for space flow. Rather, it relies 100% on the earths gravitational space flow, which produces a magnetic field within the core due to the charge in the cap that is wrapped in the core. Therefore, if the device is rotated 180 degrees with respect to earth, then the ac voltage caused by the caps reverses, which goes against the starter voltage, which means it stops operating. Furthermore, since this tech has to do with the velocity of space (at earths surface it's ~11Km/s) and not the acceleration of space (which is the cause of gravity), mainstream will learn that the velocity of space on earths surface varies a lot. Although the acceleration of space is relatively stable.

If you want to build a simple experiment to verify the above effect that mainstream has no knowledge of, then take a magnetic toroid core with high resistivity, wrap some copper foil inside, and then wrap some outside of the core, thus forming a capacitor. ... Ug, this is too complex to describe. I'd have to post a circuit and photos of such a core, and I doubt anyone's interested. More on this later.

ps that's enough to understand the physics, and I don't want to talk about it for awhile.

pss is this when the MIBs take me away? ;)

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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2017, 05:03:59 PM »
You are confusing impedance with resistance.  Unfortunately they are both expressed as OHMs.  They are not the same thing.  Impedance does change with frequency but resistance does not.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Reactance is measured in ohms and is lossless, often show as X. Impedance is often shown as Z and has both reactance and resistance. R is the lossy part, shown as R. Here's a graph showing a magnetic cores typical Z, X, R. It's a ferrite core made by Amidon. See how R changes. Again, the resistance I am referring to is part the produces a loss.


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Re: Successful Akula 30 Watts Free Energy device Solid State Replication
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2017, 05:15:22 PM »
Hm, lets see if this posts goes through. I didn't want to expand on that but yes. I want to simplify it, do experiments at other locations to make sure it works well enough, and then drop it on Elon Musk's desk. If he kicks me out without a deal then I'll post the details at every applicable website I can find. FYI this device does not utilize magnetic fields as a source for space flow. Rather, it relies 100% on the earths gravitational space flow, which produces a magnetic field within the core due to the charge in the cap that is wrapped in the core. Therefore, if the device is rotated 180 degrees with respect to earth, then the ac voltage caused by the caps reverses, which goes against the starter voltage, which means it stops operating. Furthermore, since this tech has to do with the velocity of space (at earths surface it's ~11Km/s) and not the acceleration of space (which is the cause of gravity), mainstream will learn that the velocity of space on earths surface varies a lot. Although the acceleration of space is relatively stable.

If you want to build a simple experiment to verify the above effect that mainstream has no knowledge of, then take a magnetic toroid core with high resistivity, wrap some copper foil inside, and then wrap some outside of the core, thus forming a capacitor. ... Ug, this is too complex to describe. I'd have to post a circuit and photos of such a core, and I doubt anyone's interested. More on this later.

ps that's enough to understand the physics, and I don't want to talk about it for awhile.

pss is this when the MIBs take me away? ;)

Here's the completed description of the test:

If you want to build a simple experiment to verify the above effect that mainstream has no knowledge of, then take a magnetic toroid core with high resistivity, wrap some copper foil inside, and then wrap some outside of the core, thus forming a capacitor. Wrap coil around core to measure the voltage. Apply ac voltage on cap (top & bottom part) without shorting the core. Measure voltage on coil. Rotate entire experiment 180 degrees and watch how the ac voltage on the coil reverses with respect to the applied voltage on the cap. In theory there should be no voltage on the coil. ... Ug, this is too complex to describe. I'd have to post a circuit and photos of such a core, and I doubt anyone's interested. More on this later.

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