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Author Topic: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner  (Read 22115 times)

Offline allcanadian

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2016, 05:37:43 PM »
A commutator is really no different in it's function than the cam and points of an ignition system. It makes absolutely no sense to build a commutator when it is much easier to cut some small wood cylinders with a hole saw then grind them into an eccentric cam profile on your bench grinder then stack the cams on a threaded rod which rotates to activate one or more contact switches. In this way you can also change the timing of any individual cam/switch on the fly and easily modify it as needed.

You need a drill, a hole saw, a file or grinder, a threaded rod and some contact switches...too easy. Not to mention the obvious fact that one could integrate both low voltage contact switches and rotary spark gaps on the same timing/sequencer shaft which is very difficult to do any other way:).

AC

 


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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2016, 09:07:45 AM »
Hi I just wanted to ask quickly if I understand it correctly that the center cylinder from the first patent has a strip that is 90 degrees from the first one, and no more strips becouse I have made all three of them with one center strip around the whole cylinder and then two that are placed 180 degrees from each other.

I hope that I have been clear and you are able to understand what I mean. :)


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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2016, 08:35:11 PM »
Allcanadian: I actually what you proposed I do with stacking wood circles. It took me a while to come up with the same idea, and it turned out great. Thanks for the tip.

All: I am not speaking English as my native language so it has taken me a lot of effort to read Benitez documentation.

What I wonder is if all four of the transformers are interrupter, or just one or two of them?

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2017, 12:34:37 PM »
Hey, I am almost done with my induction coil interrupter that Benitez described in his patents.
I just have some problem with the buzzer, or interrupter that seems very hard to get working properly.

So I wondered if the induction coil could be replaced with a flyback transformer maybe?

Sorry, if it is a stupid question, but I am struggling with getting the interrupter to work, and I would like to start to put it all together soon.


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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2017, 10:44:42 PM »

Don't forget about DC vibrator designs that were used when vehicles were 6VDC and radio equipment in cars needed B+ HV. These used a
Vibrator running for a long while at 60Hz Squarewave before eventually wearing out. Once you get a Benitez system that is working and you can make
measurements you should consider using low resistance MOSFET's that you put into the switch circuit to remove the high current flow wear from the mechanical
switch and have it flow through the mosfet instead. You need to make measurements so as you will know that you haven't changed circuit functional behavior
significantly, which is sometimes reported. If you can do that the switch could eventually get replaced by digital logic circuits.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
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Offline antimony

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2017, 03:35:39 PM »
I tried to made an induction spark coil with a mechanical interrupter a couple of months ago, and when i was cleaning my "lab" today i found the  project with the faulty interrupter, and i was reminded with the Carlos Benitez stuff.

Becouse i have had these problems i was thinking that a relay driven ignition coil or other high voltage transformer maybe could be used instead of one of these?

Any thoughts? :)

Also, i know that Rick Friedrich doesn't have a good name here in our "community", but I saw that he have a sort of lecture video series on Benitez on Youtube and i just wondered if there was anyone that have watched that and what you thought about the information that he put out?

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2017, 03:57:21 PM »
A Buzz Box,,


I found that when using a mechanical interrupter I still needed to use a small cap, just like an ignition coil does.

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Offline antimony

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2017, 07:30:33 PM »
A Buzz Box,,


I found that when using a mechanical interrupter I still needed to use a small cap, just like an ignition coil does.

I am going to try again with different C caps, but at the time i used pretty large caps I think,  so it could be that.

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2017, 01:17:41 AM »
For what it's worth, I have just recently come across Carlos Benitez and his System for generating electric currents, and have decided to try and replicate it as per the Patents.

My main reason for trying this particular project was that it did not seem to rely on fancy high-tech electronics, so could be suitable for a medium to low-tech setting, i.e., homemade lighting, simple electric motors, possibly simple valve radios etc., and would be suitable for people who wanted or insisted on living off-grid.

Everything in the patents could be made by your average mechanic, blacksmith, handyman etc, out of (fairly) easily obtainable materials.

I very soon discovered that I needed the complete set of Patents to make sense of the original 1914 patent. The complete set is listed below, and was found at the European Patent Office website.

GB191417811A.pdf - Benitez's 1st Patent.
Sets out his basic system for generating useable electric power from an initial electrical charge.

GB191505591A.pdf - Benitez's 2nd Patent.
A Patent of Addition relating to Patent 17811, which describes certain improvements to the basic system, supposedly making the system cheaper to build and maintain.

GB191514311A.pdf - Benitez's 3rd Patent.
Also a Patent of Addition relating to Patents 17811 and 5591, which gives both provisional and complete specifications on using his system with "low voltages, smaller capacities" and "greater facilities for starting".

GB1918121561A.pdf - Benitez's 4th Patent.
A Patent which describes a different method of making and operating Mr Benitez's original system, including showing provisions for automatic operation. More useful, at least for me, is the inclusion of a detailed example showing the order of determining and working out the values of the various resistances, capacitances and inductances, used in the machine.

The file numbers were as I found them on Google. "GB" refers to the country of patent, in this case England, UK. The next four numbers are the year of application for the patent. The last numbers are the actual patent number. I do not know what the "A" designates, but relates to the EPO numbering system.

These patents are a masterclass in English legalistic wordage, and make reading the documents heavy going. I am in the process of getting rid of the legalese and turning the docs into a readable engineering format (without changing the meaning). Once made into plain English, I can begin my replication...

There are a number of words used that have very different meanings in the modern era to those of the early 1900's. Battery, condenser, collector, accumulator, for instance, are all used in different ways in the patents, and can be confusing.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2017, 01:38:53 PM »

CC,

thanks for info, i hope you will publish your translation into plain English.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2017, 01:46:51 PM »
CC
a very timely reboot

There will be a much closer look at this ,it has been on the to do list for quite some time.
and recently pushed to the front of the line [At Luc's lab [member Gotoluc].
also to note, member Aking21 [and others ] ,have seen a gain here too ?

respectfully
Chet

 

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