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Author Topic: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod  (Read 15276 times)

Offline Collapsingfield

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 01:54:18 PM »
Hello, I tested this effect after seeing Stefan's video. The effect exists without the cooper rod as well. You can use two different layer (coil) connected by a wire or load at one end. The circuit will be closed by the capacitance between the two coil. The resonance freq highly depend on the inner capacitance of the coils as well.   It is an LC resonance, like resonance of the Tesla coil. The resonance exists and uses energy when you can not see. Using load you can get from this energy, but there is "no feedback to source" virtually. There is a feedback, and it depends on the tuning. For example you can decrease the input energy at same output on the load, when you close the resonant circuit by wire or small load and tune correctly.

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 01:54:18 PM »

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2014, 03:05:58 PM »
That is the Tesla Bifilar Coils for you, not all has fully understood how to wind the Bifilar into a cylindrical form and observe the capacity of coils on effect. When using this coils as capacitor the effect will now be called Electrostatic Induction as always Tesla wanted to teach us. Why would it feedback to source when the Capacity of the coil has already eliminated the Negative Factors of the coil; Inductance, Lenz Effect and many more.  The free end works better with suspended plate but works better when connected to Ground.

Hello, I tested this effect after seeing Stefan's video. The effect exists without the cooper rod as well. You can use two different layer (coil) connected by a wire or load at one end. The circuit will be closed by the capacitance between the two coil. The resonance freq highly depend on the inner capacitance of the coils as well.   It is an LC resonance, like resonance of the Tesla coil. The resonance exists and uses energy when you can not see. Using load you can get from this energy, but there is "no feedback to source" virtually. There is a feedback, and it depends on the tuning. For example you can decrease the input energy at same output on the load, when you close the resonant circuit by wire or small load and tune correctly.


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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2014, 03:55:22 PM »


Hello Stupfy12, I agree. I wanted to show, that the lower two windings have an relatively high inductance and self capitance. There is a resonance there because of pulse type excitation without any connection as well. You can check it by the scope probe. It is possible to use this as second output by connecting them (the ground is useful as well), or as a tool for increase the output on the first load or decrease the input energy without changing the output energy.

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2014, 09:39:04 AM »
Hi Hoppy,

Thank you for posting this.Recently after reading the Don smith China replication as found in page 260 pjkbook.pdf ,One of Don smith video and this schematic.

I have now 100% concluded this is running on RF power.The nice circuit you posted is a rf transmitter as well.The advantage is low amps is required.My recent video of electronic stimulation as posted in Don smith topic revealed that it merely consumed around 20mA on 1600v(1600v emulate the capacitor bank).

I have attached the Don smith device China which is running on <10KV and using RF power for the 5 turn induction coil with the LC should match their frequency 220khz...230khz.
(OMG BU508D is a 1500volts transistor)
Example my 5 turns 3meter oxygen free 8AWG cable is at 2.65uH capacitor to use 0.19uf 10KV to get around 224khz.(Outer diameter with 8AWG wire is just below 3inch) :)
Online L/C calculator-http://www.deephaven.co.uk/lc.html

My first objective is to assemble using suitable toroids,copper sheet,copper wire as rod(I do have spare 999 silver rods in one of my fav health product for use with distilled water :) ).
Then i need to start making large printed circuit board on my own in the meantime while waiting for parts arrival. :)




Hi, magpwr

have you misunderstand the 'field capacitor'?  I am a member of the china forum, the author said it's a  inductance。the value is :L1*C1=Lprimary*Cprimary 

can you provide the link that  said is a 'field capacitor' ?  i have never saw this information in this china forum before. so i guest the 'field capacitor' is the primary cap,not the inductance.




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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 10:51:41 AM »



Hi, magpwr

have you misunderstand the 'field capacitor'?  I am a member of the china forum, the author said it's a  inductance。the value is :L1*C1=Lprimary*Cprimary 

can you provide the link that  said is a 'field capacitor' ?  i have never saw this information in this china forum before. so i guest the 'field capacitor' is the primary cap,not the inductance.

hi rapbbit,

I have attached the 2 images of the field capacitor which i am talking about.There is also mentioned of high Q of around 5000 this is only associated with "low inductance ,low lost capacitor".
The field capacitor is custom made.I am merely lacking 100% knowledge only on this component although i know that salty citrus mentioned about avoid exceeding 10kv and there is mentioned of silver and teflon.


Please ignore the mentioned of toroid part for the capacitor as i'm not sure about it if there is toroid used to make field capacitor.But from video there is "copper sheet" in the middle of field capacitor with a gap.

Please advise me if you have the knowledge on how to assemble this capacitor.Thanks.
 

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 10:51:41 AM »
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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2014, 06:27:02 PM »
hi rapbbit,

I have attached the 2 images of the field capacitor which i am talking about.There is also mentioned of high Q of around 5000 this is only associated with "low inductance ,low lost capacitor".
The field capacitor is custom made.I am merely lacking 100% knowledge only on this component although i know that salty citrus mentioned about avoid exceeding 10kv and there is mentioned of silver and teflon.


Please ignore the mentioned of toroid part for the capacitor as i'm not sure about it if there is toroid used to make field capacitor.But from video there is "copper sheet" in the middle of field capacitor with a gap.

Please advise me if you have the knowledge on how to assemble this capacitor.Thanks.
You are right there is toroids inside it

The author said there is toroids inside the coils to increased the inducdance value which =Cpramary*Lprimary/C1 , C1 is a 500pf 10kv capacitor. I have not saw any mentioned of silver and teflon,maybe I miss these information.

Offline tinman

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 04:20:32 PM »
Nothing special happening here guy's. I got the same effect from a SJR2,and a pulse motor-which actually droped in power draw when i added a load to the generator coil,s, as well as speed up the motor. Also done it with a crappy old washing machine motor,with a heavy 1 ohm load.

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Re: Interesting Effect On Copper Rod
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 04:20:32 PM »
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