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Author Topic: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.  (Read 362307 times)

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2014, 10:50:06 AM »

So your Two Lever Thingy is a Milkovic?!


How did you seen it put together? When can I take a ride in your Time Machine?


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No it is not a Milkovic device although it is related. Anyway he called it a 2 stage mechanical oscillator which needs to oscillate my 2 stage lever does not need to oscillate it simply gets attracted by gravitic attraction.


When I say  "seen it put together" I was refering to my device. Which I strongly believe matches the Bessler Wheel design criteria.


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Grimer

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2014, 11:14:45 AM »
What about the testimony of Bessler's maid?

Something that is rarely mentioned here in discussions of Bessler is that he was a journeyman clockmaker before he found easier means of making his living.


As a matter of interest, Al, have you read John Collins' book on Bessler?

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2014, 11:33:07 AM »
Bessler was trying to hint the mechanism used in his toy drawings MT138. It's not easily seen but when put properly you will get the 2 stage leverage.


For those who doesnt know what is MT138 please go to this link http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_121-143#MT_138-141


gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2014, 02:48:21 PM »
Quoting from Apologia Poetica


Seen sideways or full face it is as glorious as a peacock's tail.

In this sentence is the truth about the machine.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2014, 02:53:36 PM »
Did you have a working model?

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2014, 03:02:26 PM »
I will decode some of the Apologia Poetica from my point of understanding of the device


Greed is an evil root. [/size][/i]An anvil receives many blows. [/i]A driver drives. A runner runs. [/i]A seer sees. The buyer buys. [/i]The rain flows. Snow falls. [/i]The jack fires. The bow twangs; [/i]


* The above simply tells that each component will do exactly what its designed to do. This is the laws of nature.

a large herd of fat, lazy, [/size][/i]plump horses wanders aimlessly. [/i]


* The above is is a description of the sliding crossbars.

The flail wants to be with the [/size][/i]thresher, not with the scholar. [/i]Children play among the pillars [/i]with loud heavy clubs. [/i]Acrobats and shadow-boxers [/i]are as swift and nimble as the wind. [/i]The cunning cat slinks quietly along [/i]and snatches juicy mice. [/i]


*The above will be discussed later.

The dog creeps out of his kennel [/size][/i]just as far as his chain will stretch. [/i]He knows how to please by playing [/i]with his toys and knick-knacks. [/i]He wags his tail, creeps through the hoop, [/i]and is rewarded with a pat on the paws [/i]by the stiff fops who watch him. [/i]

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* The above is a description of the lever in action.

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Paul-R

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2014, 03:11:24 PM »

Secondly, what will this benefit me? What will I get by doing this, will this harm anyone?


You get to write the book, publish the DVD and go on the TV talk shows. You design and arrange the building on special equipment. Undoubtedly, others will follow but you will follow up with improved versions. i.e. you are going to be a jump ahead.

This has happened with the Linux computer operating system. The principal behind Ubuntu Linux, Mark Shuttleworth, visited the Space Station on the back of this.

Newton II

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2014, 03:20:07 PM »

Firstly, how do you open source it? I'm afraid that someone will steal it and patent it for himself.
Secondly, what will this benefit me? What will I get by doing this, will this harm anyone?



I don't see any reason to fear that someone would steal the idea and patent it becuase the moment you post a simple working OU device,  immediately you and your design will become world famous since it will be the first working OU device.   No one can steal a well known design.

You will benefit from it only if you disclose it.   If not nobody will believe that you have a working OU device as  most (all) of the claims of OU devices sofar have been proved as fakes.


gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2014, 03:30:31 PM »
Thanks for the inputs. I will disclose it but not so soon.


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 "What if I were to teach the proper method of mechanical application? Then people would say: 'Now I understand!'"  - Bessler

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2014, 03:38:20 PM »
Without a working model it is only theory.

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2014, 03:44:17 PM »
Without a working model it is only theory.


I will disclose it but not so soon. regards

braden

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2014, 03:49:07 PM »
Maybe this has already been patented and you have stumbled upon a similar principle?
 Google Patent US 20140083800A1




gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2014, 03:51:55 PM »
Maybe this has already been patented and you have stumbled upon a similar principle?
 Google Patent US 20140083800A1


I dont see any similarities. btw thats not a wheel device


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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2014, 03:55:15 PM »

I dont see any similarities. btw thats not a wheel device


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I dont know if that will even work, the design is too complicated contrary to Besllers findings.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2014, 04:23:11 PM »
I will disclose it but not so soon. regards

Very good idea. Enjoy the attention first, then see what happens, make more promises, then wait a bit longer.
Good practice in the overunity business.