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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1167821 times)

Offline cheappower2012

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2014, 01:38:11 AM »
I don't believe this is a scam,more like a delusion by Hopegirl ,her step dad and wife.
Its obvious there never was a working prototype,you are dealing with pure hope,and mass delusion.
In a way its funny,how stupid can people be,more stupid that you can imagine.Before anyone brands me a total skeptic
I believe there are a few real world devices,that appear to be free energy devices but are converters of a
new undiscovered energy source,defeating of conservation of energy and matter is not possible.
A free energy device is not possible however a converter is allowed.This device as pointed out is a replicate of the Witt
ministries device which is a scam and a hoax.Another mass delusion thats going on is in the Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator
thread.People believe that a Russian aka (sharkhead) made a self running device with no evidence  but
crappy videos.This started a mass delusion to replicate a device that can not work,will not work,is a prank by the sharkhead.The hope is theres a magic combination of transformer windings and conditions  that will create free energy,its a mass delusion.
This mass delusion extends to the OUR forum,funny stuff,I bring this up because this mass delusion is very similar to the
Hopegirl (QEG)mass delusion.The only good thing that comes out of this is that if a real device
was created ,it could spread world wide in a very short time,the cooperation of people world wide is really amazing.

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Offline markdansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2014, 01:50:13 AM »
Hi CheapPower 2012
I agree it is more a delusion than a scam, but it has the ingredients of a scam being censorship, mistruths and requests for money.
Kind Regards
Mark


Offline Jimboot

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2014, 02:05:04 AM »
Hi CheapPower 2012
I agree it is more a delusion than a scam, but it has the ingredients of a scam being censorship, mistriths and requests for money.
Kind Regards
Mark
I was chatting with some of them yesterday in their Skype room. Nice people. I asked for some hard data and they promised next week so presumably at the conference. They certainly seem genuine. Will wait and see if they are deluded.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2014, 02:10:44 AM »
I am sorry but I think there are going to be a lot of long faces and HopeGirl is going to become HeatGirl.  These "big coil and secret sauce" deals come around every year like clockwork.

The thing about the relatively new phenomenon of crowd funding is a lot of the deals call for zero accountability from the recipients of the money.  It would not be hard at all to "script" out this whole thing and walk away with your cash bomb and divvy up say two-thirds of the money with your team.
Is there any secret sauce here? Apart from the lack of hard data on performance Is there anything we don't know about construction or operation? They seem to have been fairly open about that. I've spoken to a couple of others who have said they are getting direct help via skype on their replications.
The end result maybe that it does not work as advertised but I'm not seeing anything hidden or dishonest here.


Offline cheappower2012

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2014, 02:33:40 AM »
markdansie

People have a tendency to Hope,even if theres no chance that this device will
 work,they may believe
they can fix the problems as they go along,thats why they ask for more money,
its funny and sad, as no amount of money can make this device work.
A friend who studies people and Hope,said to me, Hope is the most powerful force in the world
I think hes right.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2014, 02:33:40 AM »
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Offline markdansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2014, 03:16:21 AM »
Is there any secret sauce here? Apart from the lack of hard data on performance Is there anything we don't know about construction or operation? They seem to have been fairly open about that. I've spoken to a couple of others who have said they are getting direct help via skype on their replications.
The end result maybe that it does not work as advertised but I'm not seeing anything hidden or dishonest here.
Then why declare it is real, and all the spin that goes with it.
Kind regards
PS I know others far more worthy than this


Offline e2matrix

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2014, 03:40:24 AM »
I am sorry but I think there are going to be a lot of long faces and HopeGirl is going to become HeatGirl.  These "big coil and secret sauce" deals come around every year like clockwork.

The thing about the relatively new phenomenon of crowd funding is a lot of the deals call for zero accountability from the recipients of the money.  It would not be hard at all to "script" out this whole thing and walk away with your cash bomb and divvy up say two-thirds of the money with your team.
Well they have made $28,595 with crowd funding so far.   Maybe enough for their team fly to Taiwan, pay for food and accommodations and the cost of their initial unit they've spent 6 months building (but little or nothing for their labor).   Sorry you think so low of people and a career engineer no less.   I cannot imagine any way this is going to make them rich with the plans they have laid out.   Except maybe rich in Karma if it all works out to give those who really need energy just to have clean water and heat in the freezing cold.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2014, 03:40:24 AM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2014, 03:52:41 AM »
My bad because I did not do my due diligence and check on how much they raised.  I had read about a few other crowd funding campaigns where they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Neil Young just raised a fortune for his high definition audio player.  I assumed that they had raised a few hundred thousand dollars.  (I see it's in the $28K range now (typo?), not just a few thousand.)

On topic, here is a quote from the QED forum:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/157-update-april-7-qeg-team-in-taiwan

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From James from the FTW QEG team in Taiwan:
 
 Hello All, This is James. just wanted to post an update to let you know how we made out with resolving the insulation issue... It was another amazing day! As we said, yesterday we stripped all the wire off the two primary coils to prepare for replacing the insulation and rewinding. Today our host took us to a winding company here in Taiwan that also specializes in developing insulation systems.
 
 This is one of the top 3 companies in the country, and one of the best in Asia (our host has amazing connections). They build coils for some of the biggest names in the world, and we had the entire design team in the conference room! It was amazing to watch their faces as we began to explain what the QEG is and how it works! (we get that all the time).
 
 So they were intrigued and excited, and agreed  to take on the repair. They will also build up Taiwan's second (bare) core with their improved insulation system from the bare core up. They confirmed almost immediately that what was needed was interlayer insulation to prevent this happening again, and to ruggedize the design.
 
 So they will add mylar interlayer insulation and rewind the two primary coils on the first core, and they say they can complete it by end of work day tomorrow. We'll go pick it back up tomorrow evening and put it back together wednesday morning, to resume tuning and testing.

This still is my business and I can tell you, in my opinion, that this whole story is not real sounding at all.  The only way you could get a bunch of engineers in a room is if you were doing real volume business, like you were buying 20,000 typical small transformers a month (and even that is more or less chump change).  "We had the entire design team in the conference room."  One of the few times I use this: ROTFLMAO

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2014, 04:04:26 AM »
Schematic:

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2014, 04:14:24 AM »
Then why declare it is real, and all the spin that goes with it.
Kind regards
PS I know others far more worthy than this


My take on it is that they are idealists that honestly believe they have something that is wondrous for humanity and are doing all they can to get it out there including the spin. I agree with you that the videos and rhetoric make me roll my eyes and I am waiting for the next vid to have unicorns & rainbows.
However I don't think they are dishonest.
If you know others far more worthy lets promote the crap out of them :)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Offline yfree

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2014, 06:38:08 AM »
QEG is real.
This is a parametric oscillator (inductance is the parameter) oscillating at the ferro-resonance frequency of the core. This worked in 1934 when Mandelstam and Papalexi experimented with it (concentrate on the experimental part of the paper on page 123). The original paper can be found here. It will also work this time. The excess energy is coming from the iron nuclei in the core through acoustic NQR excitation.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2014, 08:52:17 AM »
I was chatting with some of them yesterday in their Skype room. Nice people. I asked for some hard data and they promised next week so presumably at the conference. They certainly seem genuine. Will wait and see if they are deluded.
Dont bealeave any promises, because you not know what be after 5 minutes.  ;)


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2014, 08:55:34 AM »
Who can say, exciter coil only inpruwing free energy, but free energy is without it or without it this divice not generate free energy?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2014, 09:25:40 AM »
Yfree,

Many thanks for the link to the research paper/article.

Fascinating.

Page 123 of the original publication corresponds to page
43 of the .pdf.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2014, 11:13:48 AM »
I feel this topic is moving in a positive result.   There are many people excited about it being possible.  Even if HopeGirls device does or doesn't work.  This force we are are creating is a positive one.  And it will create a positive result.  I am thankful for people who have earned my respect in the forum spending time commenting on this topic. 


It rings true even here that we are the 99%.  99% of the force behind all that is created and we WILL bring this into physical reality as well,  let us remember that and start adding our findings up and build a sum that pegs out at achievement of the goal.  I love that you all do not care about making "the money" on this.  Our hearts are in unison and is a goal worth all we can put into it.  I am proud to be part of this with you all. 


Richard Williams

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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