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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1228512 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2014, 06:16:42 AM »
Good grief man - now you're sounding like Erron
over at the other place!

The QEG may not be the ultimate answer, but it
is clearly a step in the right direction.  Those who
are experienced in Magnetic Switching should be
able with creativity and innovation to find the way
to get it done.

OK... I'll give you, SeaMonkey, a YEAR then. If, by April 15, 2015,  any of these "experienced" people can produce a self runner, with excess output power, using the information from HopeGirl.... or Keshe or Bedini or Thrapp or anyone else.... I'll publicly apologize and I'll even STOP POSTING, I'll withdraw totally and disappear.

But if they DON'T.... I'll expect the same from you.

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Offline MenofFather

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2014, 06:35:11 PM »
Hopegirl doing good work! :)

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2014, 12:47:57 AM »
I'll publicly apologize and I'll even STOP POSTING, I'll withdraw totally and disappear.
You mean like alsetalokin did?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2014, 12:54:08 AM »
Quote from: TinselKoala
OK... I'll give you, SeaMonkey, a YEAR then. If, by April 15, 2015,  any of these "experienced" people can produce a self runner, with excess output power, using the information from HopeGirl.... or Keshe or Bedini or Thrapp or anyone else.... I'll publicly apologize and I'll even STOP POSTING, I'll withdraw totally and disappear.

But if they DON'T.... I'll expect the same from you.

Nay, those demands seem a bit excessive to
my way of thinking.  Your input is just too
important to the fullness of the entire breadth
of discussion here at this forum - to ask you to
disappear is just not possible.** ;)

I fully expect that we'll see some measure of
success relatively soon as work on the modification
of the device with innovation proceeds.  The guys
in Taiwan have already discovered an unexpected
problem and have resolved to make correction.

That it works at all as a generator is encouraging.

[** You'd probably re-appear anyhow. 8)   With a
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2014, 01:14:35 PM »

Yes they apparently have insulation problems with the resonant HV field coil. One should expect this, but why wasn't this worked
out by Tharp? The coil is located very near the metal toroid ring core. This causes the coil to be very long, so layer to
layer voltage is very high, breaking down insulation.


Massive utility power generators produce only 2KVAC then they have to have extensive and expensive transformer
switchyards to step this up. Probably so they don't couple into any untoward "radiant" energy. Customers will gladly
pay though.


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Also, I noticed too that they lit only two bulbs, a paltry and not necessarily overunity load, but you've got to understand
they've taken on the excessive challange of building a demand oriented generator. The generator has to automatically
adjust it's internal power to the power level of external loads. This automatic system has to be performed heuristically
because before the modern age they could not design discrete systems to do it because the blocks were too expensive.
The Testatika machine had the same problem solved in the same way. Because they probably had not yet adjusted
these parameters they couldn't put more load on it. This is why people say overunity systems tend to catch on fire.
The people designing them don't understand demand systems theory. This is the same reason that critics don't have
a clue.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2014, 01:14:35 PM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2014, 03:56:56 PM »
Well, from the interview Sterling now did with FTW Hopegirl and parents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ

there was released new informations:

1. They don´t yet have a selfrunning prototype, just claiming
2. a 400 Hz unit running on 1/10 the input power. 50 or 60 Hz would also work , but makes too much mechanical wobble problems.
3. Inductance of the core changing between 30 to 40 Henries, so seems to be parametric oscillation.
4. the "Power band with the 10:1 output" as the call it are claimed to come from a mechanical resonance of the core vibrating
at around 400 Hz and is parametrically induced by the spinning iron core rotor.
5. Maximum output power was measured at around 9300 Watts, but the average power is around 3 to 4 KWatts.

What Sterling failed to address is the following:

He did not ask them how much input power the drive motor did draw, when the output operates at the average 3 to 4 KWatts output?
How did they exactly measure the input and output power ? Is there already any 3rd party verification of these power measurements ?
Hope is nice, but as Mark Dansie always says: Show me the data !  Has any 3rd party seen the measurement results data yet ?

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I still believe that the WITTS unit was a scam to collect donation money.

Anyway let´s see, what comes out of it...

BTW, here is another forum, where infos are posted about it:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/index

If they have new infos. Please also post it here.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2014, 09:00:43 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2014, 04:06:38 PM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2014, 05:43:24 PM »

You mean like alsetalokin did?
You may not believe this, but the _impostor_ called "alsetalokin" who briefly had an account on this forum.... and even copied the _real_ alsetalokin's icon... is not now and never was me. That one was from Italy, iirc, and we really got pissed off by his theft of the icon and the posts he was making. Why do you think I have to use "TinselKoala" here? It's because that sucker already registered "alsetalokin".

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new persona. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ]

Nope... when I go, I'm gone.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2014, 05:57:11 PM »
I told you they didn't have a working prototype. They are working on faith alone. They are sure it will work because it was Revealed to them, in a dream or by channelling or something like that.

And I am sure that it won't work. People have been swinging magnets past heavy coils and generating high voltages for quite some time now, so nobody should be excited that they are able to do that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto
And surely they should have been Told by their Source that they could expect arcing if they weren't properly insulated. Heck, I myself could have told them that much. But they didn't ask me, for some reason.

Never fear, in "two or three days" when they have their coil rewound, there will be some other problem that prevents it "temporarily" from running itself. Stock up on popcorn and beer now, it will be a great show!



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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2014, 06:14:52 PM »
I told you they didn't have a working prototype. They are working on faith alone. They are sure it will work because it was Revealed to them, in a dream or by channelling or something like that.


They maybe not have self runnig, but man, who build QEG get output 5 kilowats, maximum maybe 9 kilowats. Input motor maybe 500-1000 watss, so Free energy is, if we assume, that he not wery good meshure, then input, let say, 1000 W and output is 2 kilowats. Here also free energy.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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Offline e2matrix

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2014, 06:58:06 PM »
From Sterling: ""...One thing that is important to know is that this QEG is still in the R&D phase of being characterized and optimized. It isn't yet to the point of stability that is ready for people to build and power their homes with it.

 The Fix the World organization wanted to open source this R&D process to speed the development time...""
Also concerns about them asking for donations as proof this is some scam make no sense.   If you had a free energy device or even a good concept and wanted to teach it to others in countries far from home do you think traveling to foreign countries is cheap?   It takes a lot of money to do what they are doing (very altruistic IMO) and so it seems only reasonable they would want to have some contributions to help out.   After all this engineer quit a very good job with Honda to move forward with this.   I don't think for a minute they are scamming any one.  They may or may not have a valid device but I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt to see if it all pans out.   

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2014, 07:08:56 PM »
...they should have been Told by their Source...
... to go out and build a boat and put on it two of each species.

They should count themselves lucky that this did not happen. If they jerk us around they may well find that they ARE "Told by their source" to buiild that boat. Then they will be in a right Royal stew.

Why is it that any mention of the Divine seems to be the kiss of death when Tesla told us that the world was so electrical that God must clearly be an electrician.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2014, 09:15:07 PM »
Quote from: TinSelKoAla
People have been swinging magnets past heavy coils and generating high voltages for quite some time now, so nobody should be excited that they are able to do that.

Aye, so they have.  And though it has worked well
the problem of loading dragging down input has
not been solved.

Magnetic Switching, if done properly, will make the
difference.  Those who exercise sufficient creativity
and innovation will find the way.

We've probably all experienced how a strong magnet
can become so firmly attached to a piece of large
metal that it is nearly impossible to pull it off.   But it
can be slid to the edge and removed rather easily.

Is that the concept which we should be paying
attention to?


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2014, 01:19:12 AM »
We've created an open source hub for this project at http://QEG.builders which forwards to PESWiki

Feel free to join in. PESWiki is a publicly editable site.

See also the interview I had recently with the FTW people:

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2014, 01:31:39 AM »
I am sorry but I think there are going to be a lot of long faces and HopeGirl is going to become HeatGirl.  These "big coil and secret sauce" deals come around every year like clockwork.

The thing about the relatively new phenomenon of crowd funding is a lot of the deals call for zero accountability from the recipients of the money.  It would not be hard at all to "script" out this whole thing and walk away with your cash bomb and divvy up say two-thirds of the money with your team.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
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