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Author Topic: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)  (Read 1204621 times)

Offline markdansie

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2014, 12:50:19 PM »
Ho Hum,
Once again it will be very entertaining to see what excuses they have when they cant even get it to self loop. they have really painted themselves in a corner .
It is very profitable to sell hope (pun intended)
Mark

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2014, 08:20:52 PM »
Who can answer, there is permanent magnets in this divice?

No PM's but;

I think you have to initialize a magnetic field with touch of 12Volt battery current into it's core. I've seen designs of very
cheap generators that use small PMM permanent magnet magnetos to do this instead. That is how I would have designed it.
Yet on the other hand I've heard of expensive generators where you needed to reflash their field if they have sat for any
amount of time. This one would need a flashed stator field, I think.

:S:MarkSCoffman


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2014, 06:15:51 AM »
Actually the "stator" field is 220 dc pulsed with a Tesla style spark gap and is looped in a lc circuit where the coil is an interestingly large air core coil. And the main core has a independent high voltage primary/secondary that is also in a lc configuration. The plans are available here complete with vendor suggestions:
http://pesn.com/2014/03/26/9602463_Quantum-Energy-Generator_QEG_Open-Sourced/
Take a look and you won't have to keep wondering.


I think the idea is to synchronize the rotor cycle in such a way so that the hard hitting torque will always be relieved. The high voltage primary/secondary lc, creates a low current draw for temporary internal energy storage and thus the usual heavy drag in the core can possibly be delayed long enough for the push back to hit after the rotor has passed without seeing the heavy torque usually associated by a brute force generator, as they say timing is everything.


interestingly, the output frequency is said to be 400hz while the rotor spins at ~40hz but must be tuned to just the right speed to maximize output. This 10x frequency differential could account for the claimed 10x performance differential.


Also, the spark gap seems to be set in the circuit in such a way as to relieve the high pressure that would normally be associated to push a large current and additionally help keep it off the rotor maybe even somehow allows for pulling extra electrons from the air.


I thought this was a place for incubating free energy ideas, not for tearing them apart.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2014, 06:46:33 AM »
Very good explanation shinz62.    Trolls are out in force on this one because it is generating a lot of interest.   they must try to crush all hope before it gets bigger cause if the trolls fail they'll get their nuts crushed by their owners.  they are sweating bullets on this one.   video on the front page here shows it running. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi4ldwgfOmk&list=PLO6FJVqlxatdprKQA1BhrJCML2tbomVJ2&feature=player_embedded


They've already got it looped but in their words they aren't focused on proving to everyone right now.   they want to get people building them who really need them.  they will have a better video showing it looped soon enough.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2014, 10:36:00 AM »
I'll tell you what, SteelPU.

Today is the 5th of April. I predict that, by the 5th of May, there will STILL be no credible evidence that this device can "run itself" and provide useful excess power output.

Running itself means, of course, that it isn't running on batteries or a mains connection or anything like that, it is running solely on whatever it is itself producing. Providing useful excess power output... well, let's not expect too much. How about the usual "1 kW" bank of incandescent light bulbs.

So, in one month, if they or anyone else DOES provide credible evidence that it "works" as they claim, I'll stand up in public and make a full and abject apology to you, to HopeGirl, to Timothy Thrapp and whomever else may have been offended or misled by my rabid skepticism. OK?

And in one month, if they DO NOT Provide that kind of credible evidence..... YOU will apologize to ME, publicly and abjectly and so forth, and you will agree to think twice before insulting your critics again.

Fair enough?

Need three months instead of one month? How about a year, would that be more fair? What length of time would be "fair" to you, for this simple wager?

No, the "demonstration" of this device that Thrapp provided in 2010 doesn't count as "credible".

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2014, 10:36:00 AM »
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Offline Hope

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2014, 10:55:23 AM »
LOL   you must be new here,   of course we want success and a replication over and over again.   Mark, MS and most of us have seen this show hundreds of times.  Claims of an OU device and then just excuses.  We HOPE more than ourselves to have this pan out as true,  yet after so many "NOTS" the pattern is VERY evident even to a novice.   Let's see this device self run before we count our blessings.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2014, 10:57:43 AM »
Troll??? Growllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Your just so funny we must laugh!   
It seems always some new person who has very little time studying the hundreds of devices and claims at is so very ready to jump right in and be convinced of a unsupported claim.   Tell you what,  when this QEG is still unproven in a month  (without excuses) you or we admit the opinion was incorrect.   Personally I think Oil is a smelly business from the ground up  (pun intended) and those energy sellers are death dealers.   Most of us seeing this QEG have the same opinion on that,  we hope all things like this were true.  Yet of course some people just want to have attention how be it short lived and of a false nature.  After all,  everyone gets their 15 secs per lifetime right?   Just sit back SteelTPU and watch a bit before you go spending any money, don't hock the family nest egg just yet.  We don't hope for anything but a working device,  but of course this so far has all the indicators of being just another bogus claim.  If not where is the procedural evidence in video that is straight forward to measure?    Always the new guy we can blame "Trolls!!" on, lol.
 

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2014, 10:57:43 AM »
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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2014, 11:11:38 AM »
I think Mark Dansie and TK are right that this is a big Fake.

There is not yet a selflooping prototype from the QEG people,
they just have lighted a few light bulbs, but with lots of input power...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5IdtaqNFBs
Taiwan has resonance ....
but she deactivated the comments, when I asked about output versus input power....


The Witts unit of Thrapp was a fake, as you could see, that using the light bulb loads did not change
the RPMs of the motor and you see, that he screws out the light bulbs first, before shutting his device off,
so the light bulbs were just powered by the grid and not his generator ! Otherwise you would have seen and heard
at least a slight RPM change ! But there was non, so there were hidden cables to the light bulb from the grid...

So I am 100 % sure that the WITTS unit is a fraud to collect donation money as they did until now...
Now Hopegirl started a lot of Hope and collected already almost 27.000 US$ for it from their Indigogo campaign...

Are they paying the money back, if they donĀ“t get it to run selflooped ?

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2014, 07:32:25 PM »
Troll??? Growllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Your just so funny we must laugh!   
It seems always some new person who has very little time studying the hundreds of devices and claims at is so very ready to jump right in and be convinced of a unsupported claim.   Tell you what,  when this QEG is still unproven in a month  (without excuses) you or we admit the opinion was incorrect.   Personally I think Oil is a smelly business from the ground up  (pun intended) and those energy sellers are death dealers.   Most of us seeing this QEG have the same opinion on that,  we hope all things like this were true.  Yet of course some people just want to have attention how be it short lived and of a false nature.  After all,  everyone gets their 15 secs per lifetime right?   Just sit back SteelTPU and watch a bit before you go spending any money, don't hock the family nest egg just yet.  We don't hope for anything but a working device,  but of course this so far has all the indicators of being just another bogus claim.  If not where is the procedural evidence in video that is straight forward to measure?    Always the new guy we can blame "Trolls!!" on, lol.

my comment wasn't directed at you.   I don't post much.   I've been reading this forum for years before you signed on.  been looking at free energy before you were born.    I like your name but noticed a shift lately in your mindset.  Don't move to the dark side or they'll trap you there forever.   Keep HOPE.   Universal law states You give power to what you focus on.   

Tinsel your need to be right must be overwhelming.   I have no problem admitting I'm wrong.   give it a year

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »
Let's give it a few more days fellas, we could be happily surprised.
I'm trying to find a blog that the Chinese Engineers could be using to share their info, if anyone finds one, please share it here.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »
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Offline Hope

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2014, 12:18:58 AM »
Ta DA!!!  Ok, this is just a link to HopeGirls webby AND request for sponsor moneys.   Costs are quoted,  it does not align with the costs we were told.   Maybe the more hard data we gain and present here, the more we can see the overall true picture.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2014, 12:36:03 AM »
And I have every HOPE that COP >1 will be discovered and modeled into a working device.  I am only trying to filter the muck from the true worthwhile projects.   It will not come from a group that knowingly misdirects and shares erroneous information.   And please send me "support seekers" need this why?....if they have a working device why not use it to gain all the monies they need?   Logic here reasons that there is something fishy in this stream.  "That link states they need to money to build a working device,  NOT THAT THEY HAVE already built one".
Which statement is the truth?  I mean at one time I was ready to hock my heritage heirlooms just to build a COP > 1 device which was modeled here.  Even videos of it working,  being carried though out a house and yard.  Only to find out later it was a fraud.   People on the edge have needs so great that perhaps they will sink their ship in hopes and belief for a better life.  This is a dangerous thing,  to fool around with peoples lives.  So my "feeling" is to be open to all this information, yet to be cautious and have hard facts before swimming for a supposed shore.   


AND SteelTPU  you know I have been rained on many many times during my lifetime,  yet I do not hide in my house or withdraw from activities just because someone says it might rain.  So don't allow someone (me) to cancel your desire to help and be an active forum commenter.


BTW we both join the forum 13 days apart in July of 2010.


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2014, 03:11:17 AM »
Good points on desperate people Hope.  I may be mistakenly assuming no one here is going to jump head first into a pool without first checking to see if it has water.  been wrong before though.  I was reading this forum for a long time before I signed up in 2010.  mostly don't post as I feel I have to spray myself down with Troll-OFF before coming in here. 

please everyone reading don't break the bank to try some new build.  let experimenters who have a little extra $$ give it a try.   other than those reasons I can only think the heavy troll activity is for suppression. 

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2014, 03:14:19 AM »
hartiberlin please tell us why my browser warns "web site tried to access data on canvas" when I come to overunity.com.  The HTML5 canvas element functionality can be used to try to fingerprint your machine (http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/dist/canvas.pdf) and/or track you via assigned identifiers embedded within images.   WHY?

I'm posting this publicly instead of PM to harti because people need to know this.   might be a good reason but I'd like to hear why


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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2014, 04:25:14 AM »
Quote from: TinselKoala
And in one month, if they DO NOT Provide that kind of credible evidence..... YOU will apologize to ME, publicly and abjectly and so forth, and you will agree to think twice before insulting your critics again.

Good grief man - now you're sounding like Erron
over at the other place!

The QEG may not be the ultimate answer, but it
is clearly a step in the right direction.  Those who
are experienced in Magnetic Switching should be
able with creativity and innovation to find the way
to get it done.

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Re: Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2014, 04:25:14 AM »

 

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