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Author Topic: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works  (Read 30566 times)

Offline memoryman

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2014, 07:45:00 PM »
The likelyhood of this contraption delivering OU is best expressed in scientific notation:1/10^googleplex. But then, I AM an optimist.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2014, 10:54:53 AM »
That's not even too expensive... 587 USD maybe Sterling Allan would buy it  :) .


                                     ;D Yes,absolutely,clearly ! ;D


But:                    1.000 Russian Rubles ~ 28 US$
                           2.000                              ?
                         20.000                              ?
                       200.000                              ?


                                             :-X :-\ :'(
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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2014, 11:19:24 AM »

...
But:                    1.000 Russian Rubles ~ 28 US$
                           2.000                              ?
                         20.000                              ?
                       200.000                              ?
...

Olá Lanca,

1.000 Russian Rubel is 0.028 USD  and not 28 USD if you meant that (any source: http://themoneyconverter.com/RUB/USD.aspx )

So 200,000 RUB is 5,600 USD (5 thousand and 6 hundred) and not 587 USD as member madddann wrote.

Greetings, Gyula

EDIT  I just realized that you use dot where the English use comma (virgula) to cut up the thousand values. So one thousand Ruble is indeed 28 USD nowadays but it is written as 1,000 RUB and not as 1.000 RUB, this is why I speak up...  8)

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2015, 12:25:24 AM »
Hello

First, this is new video from Krstan Pejic. He is saying that every few seconds he is using electricity from battery, and electricity used is lower than gained because of flywheel. Don't know does this video has something to do with old one, just posting if someone wants to comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-XAI-9yaA

Now, this is what happened with this project. Atm, he made this generator to work on home electricity, spending about 1kw and producing 7kw. He already selling them.
Interesting thing that he says in video (not this that i posted but original) is that at that time when video was recording he was already on project for 1 hotel where he is making generator of 40kw. This means that going from generator that is in video which is using about 100w per hour while producing 1.5kw to generator that he is now selling (1kw to 7kw) is not problem, pattern is same.

As he himself sad to 1 visitor, we all can see from video what he was using and to make same "hardware", but real deal is in that alternator. That is not just random car alternator hooked up and lets go. Something was changed in it. Only thing i can think of is that he made it to be permanent alternator by adding magnets.
Alternator, inverter and how are wires hooked up, are so far mystery.

Since last post was about 1.5 years ago, i would like to use this opportunity to ask didi someone found out something new, maybe tested generator? I personally tried to make it, but it did not worked with just random alternator hooked up.


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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2015, 10:56:36 AM »
   You can seriously do better than a car alternator as per a repair shop they are a very bad and lossy generator. Consider the design for a wind generator instead.  You could still use a coil to make the magnetic field for it and by that control the amount of output as you would in a car unit.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2015, 10:56:36 AM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2015, 07:45:37 AM »
I showed this before, yes, its one of the videos on YT.

Its his prototype.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2015, 08:10:21 AM »
My theory is that there is an purposely made eccentricity in the belt sprocket shapes, timed to the weight eccentricity on the flywheel judging from what Pejic is saying. Worthy to note, I dont notice eccentricity on final build. I rarely see that in the others, perhaps it is a good clue.

Numerous theories have been written on this effect, the one that apparently drives the Pejic device and many others I have seen, there is too many to mention.

As for the "pulsing" technique, it is always a strange rattle, a seeking of "looseness", long delay line I call it, loosely coupled, and apparently force is inputted, switched momentarily, then removed, or lowered.

Some people maybe achieve this with field winding cutting apparently, ive heard a few techniques for providing an irregular jump, to a motor, or "physical driver".

The effect seen here, it is my belief, has no modifications to he receiving alternator, the effect comes from effect of flywheel, when right technique is applied, useful force is generator as bonus of wealth and energy.

When timing is done right, flywheel itself provides the out of nowhere force necessary to continue moving the generator, for free.

AG power of india. Their setup is huge, I dont seem them remaking such an generator. An many others as well, so I say, I dont think generator is modified. Its already, a very complex input system.

Some people use hydraulic, and perhaps an rotary switch of some sort. Some people use pulleys. Seen this motor/flywheel ALOT, from massive and very huge to small.

I am also wondering that this motor is somehow being sold in black market to what seems to be ak-47 wielding pakistanis...If that video was indeed legitimate. , are they smarter than us over there come on...no way ... Who is telling them? It cant be so easy now.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2015, 08:10:21 AM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2015, 10:52:37 AM »
Can anybody who understands serbian translate these videos and confirm to me above story about alternator being modified.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-XAI-9yaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVexA003t-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJxNL7h0UNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To0IcsA4GPw

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2015, 01:00:26 PM »
there was a battery guy a while back, collected all sorts of batteries and tested the crap out of them.
among them was a list of what he proclaimed to be the "best car batteries".

albeit I think most of his list came from trucks...; anyhow.

a couple of them pushed out 700-900 amps for nearly 20 minutes at roughly 13 volts, scaling down as the battery drained.
some of the greater values were along the lines of 3.5 KWHrs from a fully charged battery.
converted to A/C, or used at 12v to run all sorts of gizmos and metering it all the way around.

the average battery will produce much lower values.

in Every case, more energy was used charging the battery than was used while discharging it.

The thing about 12-24v DC motors, such as those used in the automotive industry,...
the current draw is dependent upon the load.
the harder or easier it is to turn the load, the more or less current will be drawn.

window motors provide more torque for the power than the smaller wiper motor.
and the window motors come readily equipped with a worm-gear which further increases the torque.
you can spin some serious stuff with those  :)

it's hard to measure power consumption over time with these motors, and also the energy consumed while spinning the flywheel up to speed.
yes, once spinning fast enough, it gets "easier" to spin a flywheel, but you still are imparting more energy into it than you can take out.

on top of that, the situation if further complicated by using the momentum of the flywheel to generate electricity.
if any portion of this is fed back into the battery, this will increase the "run-time" of the system, before the battery dies down.
which is used again to run the motor, to keep the flywheel spinning. not really doing any work, but slowly losing energy each cycle.
the energy used at the output side of the generator should decrease the overall energy value, decreasing the battery power over time.

the only way to know all of the parameters of the system, is to properly meter the battery, output and input.
then you can see what it is really doing.

the alternative would be to record measurements over time, of all parts of the system.
this leads to a complicated measurement process, inaccuracies, mistakes, etc.

all in all I do not believe this system can output more total energy than is available from the fully charged battery.


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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2015, 03:01:52 PM »
here is another approach being investigated ..
William Skinner's 1939 spinning controlled chaos ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3ZATuJZis

sorry I could not find the appropriate old thread here ?

also being discussed here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/17195-william-f-skinner-1939-gravity-power-23.html

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2016, 11:47:39 AM »
That is unrelated and unsuccessful as of yet. What has he shown? Nothing...

My intuition tells me, it did not work.


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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2016, 03:35:33 PM »
Can anybody who understands serbian translate these videos and confirm to me above story about alternator being modified.
One of those videos is not Serbian, 2 others have nothing to do with alternator and in forth he only says "this is car alternator" and thats it.

This information about changing wires (modifying) that i have is told by himself to 1 visitor who told me, u will not find this information in his videos and that visitor is not sure what exactly is changed (is it only wires, is it only alternator, is it alternator at all).

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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2016, 04:53:04 PM »
Is there patent for alternator design?

How does this have relation with bycicle wheel and video shown?

I have pmed you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208YbzZfd-0

What exactly is the goal and motivation for his alternator modification?

Is the flywheel the source of the effect and alternator used only as the instigator of the effect?

A modification that is otherwise stupid, and not OU in itself.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2016, 08:53:46 PM by ARMCORTEX »


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Re: Gravity wheel of Krstan Pejic. This device works
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2016, 10:07:45 PM »
Is there patent for alternator design?
Yes there is, he have it and he showed to that visitor, he could see all but since he has 0 knowledge he did not even know in what he was looking at. Krstan himself told him than that he spent 20 years reserching this idea and that parts are modified.
How does this have relation with bycicle wheel and video shown?
I did translation of it, u can look up. He is not mentioning main machine in that video at all, he is just showing how u can make free electricity. So ether that video has nothing to do with main video, he just want to show there are more ways to produce free electricity or it is how main machine work, we have to decide that for our own.

What exactly is the goal and motivation for his alternator modification?
He did not sad that. I think that he maybe put instead of rotor magnet, and in stator he changed wires to be thiner (sine that is what ppl do when they making PMA). But this is only my opinion.

Is the flywheel the source of the effect and alternator used only as the instigator of the effect?
This is what he is saying about all parts, he is little mumbling so translation will maybe not look logical but i will translate exact what he is saying:
In order to start this machine u need initial energy and for that i am using battery. After that, machine use, because he has flywheel, this is here flywheel (showing to bicycle wheel), machine than with help of flywheel is using force of inertia. 80% of energy that this flywheel is making machine is transferring to electrical energy, and 20% of energy which is making generator, i took for generator alternator from car, machine is using. That alternator recharges battery, when machine starts battery loose some % of power, so alternator recharges battery and after that battery is there only there as circuit. Electricity is always the same, amps and volts are always same, and he can work forever like that.

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