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Grumage

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2014, 05:15:16 PM »
Dear Grum,

The frequency limits for the RT and CT components in the schematic (1K+10K potentiometer and 3.3nF cap) are 363KHz ( Pot at 0 ohms) and 33.06KHz ( pot at 10K). Using this information, and the table I just posted, I would say that the transformer core (with the gap) has an AL less than 400. As the dimension of the gap will influence the final AL of the core, you can always adjust the gap to fine tune particular core you have.

Cheers,

Black Bird

Dear Black_Bird.

Many thanks for that info. The cores I have obtained have an AL Value = 4100. I hope they are not too large ??

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #76 on: March 08, 2014, 05:29:18 PM »
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191417811A.pdf


In this 100 year old patent Benitez uses an electrostatic generator to energize one plate of a HV capacitor.
He then alternately pumps the ground via a Tesla controller/interrupter switch to energize the other plate of the capacitor.
He intercepts the ground surge with a 1:1 trafo.
He then diodes the output back into the input.
The device is self running.
We can do all this electronically.
It took me 2 weeks to understand the patent.
The patent was granted.
Those with working Tesla coils, Slayers, Karchers, etc should think of their devices as electrostatic generators
and modify their circuits accordingly.


Google

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2014, 05:46:33 PM »
I just made a simple HV electrostatic generator by using 3 basic parts.

1. 12 V 7Ah Accumulator.
2.  A cheap 18 Watt CFL inverter circuit that lights a CFL with a 12 V DC input.
3. A flyback trafo. Wired the inverter output to flyback input.

The HV and ground output wires light the CFLs wirelessly and generates some wonderful blue sparks streamers. The spark gap max is 1 cm.

I guess the output is above 10kv.


A.king21 can you suggest a simple circuit to replicate Benitez patent with this device.

Many thanks ahead of time.

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lost_bro

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2014, 06:33:50 PM »
Good Day All:
Just wanted to say thanks for starting this post:
I have been following the work of AKULA since last year:

OK, just my two cents worth:
Please see Attachments:
A pic is worth a 1000 words:
lost_bro

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2014, 06:46:15 PM »
Dear Black_Bird.

Many thanks for that info. The cores I have obtained have an AL Value = 4100. I hope they are not too large ??

Cheers Grum.
Hi Grum,

With AL=4100, and no gap, primary inductance will be around 920uH. At 33KHz, minimum frequency of TL494 in this circuit, the maximum current during conduction will be around 177 mA, which is low to get the desired 30W output. when you introduce the gap, AL will reduce and consequently the value of primary inductance will also reduce. You will need some experimenting with the gap value to get the desired output current.

Cheers,

Black Bird

Grumage

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2014, 06:47:14 PM »
I just made a simple HV electrostatic generator by using 3 basic parts.

1. 12 V 7Ah Accumulator.
2.  A cheap 18 Watt CFL inverter circuit that lights a CFL with a 12 V DC input.
3. A flyback trafo. Wired the inverter output to flyback input.

The HV and ground output wires light the CFLs wirelessly and generates some wonderful blue sparks streamers. The spark gap max is 1 cm.

I guess the output is above 10kv.


Dear Google.

You have made the first step !! Yes, humidity dependant, a spark of 30 Kv for dry air can traverse 1 cm !!

We now have to find a way of attracting and harnessing the abundance of "Static" electricity and converting it into "our" man made electromagnetic electricity !! The Testatika machine ??

Cheers Grum.

Grumage

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2014, 07:35:01 PM »
Good Day All:
Just wanted to say thanks for starting this post:
I have been following the work of AKULA since last year:

OK, just my two cents worth:
Please see Attachments:
A pic is worth a 1000 words:
lost_bro

Dear lost_bro.

Thanks for your input and welcome!!  :)

Please study the schematic on my opening post. http://www.overunity.com/14378/akula0083-30-watt-self-running-generator/msg391344/#msg391344

How do you see these handwritten amendments ?  As this is the schematic that has been turned into a PCB format.

Cheers Grum

PS. Almost forgot to thank Black Bird for the inductance info !! Cheers !!  :)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #82 on: March 08, 2014, 07:41:30 PM »
Next step ??   :)

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #83 on: March 08, 2014, 08:02:52 PM »
Hello Grummage

OK, took a quick look at the other schematic:

Please see the attachments:
It's just my two cents worth.
Take care and good luck.
lost_bro

forest

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #84 on: March 08, 2014, 08:28:53 PM »
lost_bro


Are the error amplifiers correctly used in original circuit ? Can you explain the purpose of sensing in two places (input of stabiliser and  after load) ? Could it be to change frequency according to the load and to limit input voltage going to lm7812 ?

Grumage

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #85 on: March 08, 2014, 08:29:37 PM »
Hello Grummage

OK, took a quick look at the other schematic:

Please see the attachments:
It's just my two cents worth.
Take care and good luck.
lost_bro

Dear lost_bro.

From your remarks, I gather that there are still errors ?? Would you be so kind as to correct this schematic so that we could proceed ?? I suppose we could place a jumper here or there ??
I myself have only a basic knowledge of electronics so would greatly appreciate any help from the more adept members of this Forum.

Cheers Grum.


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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #86 on: March 08, 2014, 09:04:49 PM »
lost_bro


Are the error amplifiers correctly used in original circuit ? Can you explain the purpose of sensing in two places (input of stabiliser and  after load) ? Could it be to change frequency according to the load and to limit input voltage going to lm7812 ?


Hello Forest:

Just a few quick thoughts on the matter:
Please see attached pic.
I would have to build the unit to understand better what Akula's methodology was when designing his feed back loop.
I would have to wonder with so many other obvious flaws in the schematic (not this one, but the other one which is missing the ground line to #16 etc) , if this is indeed an actual working model?
Or if it is another adulterated version.....
Take care,, peace.
lost_bro
 
P.S made a mistake on the pic.  should read R14 & R15 timing:

EDIT , it is normal for #2 to use decoupling capacitor, but directly to ground not in the middle of a feedback loop.

C8 is a SoftStart-function Capacitor (controls number of clock cycles before full output achieved) , used to slow down the start-up of the output signal on initial startup of the TL494 chip. Probably does that so not to blow up the MOSFET with initial surge....

totoalas

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #87 on: March 08, 2014, 10:12:30 PM »
A simplified king-grumage schematic is enclosed so you can see what is going on.
Aking and Grum
does the basic circuit still stands out meaning no modification
Im still waiting for my parts tl 494  abd it will be a week to arrive
Tesla switch   
Can use jonnydavros 1.5 v dc  5 t0 82 mA  flyback driver for hv
 
to Lost Bro
Can the above circuit combined with hv produce an efficient output if not self generating
Ill settle for efficiency right now for my 20 w solar panels   less input current with high output
 
t 8) hanks

mscoffman

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #88 on: March 08, 2014, 11:09:22 PM »
Black Bird,

Do you happen to have access to e-cap software simulator capability?

I'm certain that all these components should have simulation models. My feeling is that these folks are having too much
problems with this is a relatively simple circuitry. Why not just bringing it up as if were your own design? How hard should it be
to light some power leds using a 494 PWM modulator? And any kind ferrite transformer with these # turns of windings? Then figure out
how to inject 4MHz AC to add to DC power to simulate free energy. Test the circuit for voltage/power regulation. Figure out how
free electrons injected into the LED array will affect power flow, see how much you got vs and how much you need. You are
going to need *significant* free energy to offset the heat being dissipated in the FET heat sink so it seems you should be able to see it.
I suspect there is significant energy flowing back from the led array immediately after turn off.

When you tune the circuit then you can use fancy groomed ferrite transformer. I suspect that free electrons work like a heat engine
you need to use 1/2 their energy to push the other 1/2 energy into the circuit, so around that injection loop you need ground balance.
 
What I'm suggesting is use the schematic as a structural reference rather then detail reference. Then test the thing into operation.

By the way one could convert the 12Volt Linear Regulator to a switching regulator by adding the appropriate inductor
into it's ground lead. From National Applications note. This alone could save 16% energy use by left side of board and
cool the +12 volt regulator down. Use excess .1uf power bypass caps to keep the signals cleaner during prototyping.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.
« Reply #89 on: March 09, 2014, 12:31:43 AM »
Mark,

I do not have ecap, but PSPICE. Anyway, these simulators might give you some insight into the circuit, but, as they are based in "conventional" physics, any "anomalous" effects will not appear in the simulation.

If you observe the circuit, even if TL494 is not there, there is a DC path from power supply to the load via the primary inductor and the diodes to the load. What I think, for now, is that the circuit, somehow, returns the power spent to the power supply capacitors, after the battery is disconnected. How and why that happens is the big "X", and that is why I will assemble the circuit to investigate it. My intention is to assemble the circuit by parts and measure the effects of each step until I get it working ( or not!?).

Cheers,

Black Bird