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Author Topic: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2  (Read 32674 times)

Offline Floor

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Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« on: February 17, 2014, 07:53:56 PM »
This topic is an extension of two previous topics

1.  "Work from two magnets > 19 % output"   Notice there is not a 2 at the end of the topic name.
2.  "New Perm Mag Engine Design 1.5 : 1 ratio"

The topic is a presentation of a series of tests, exploring  the possibility that work
can be done by two magnets, in a repeating cycle, without an external energy source.
At least not a source that is know / understood.

The results of the tests are, I think quite astounding, except for perhaps, that, I have now been witness
to at least one other demonstration, that I believe demonstrates work can be cyclically done by magnets.

The topic is not a light one, the materials presented are some what extensive, but certainly not out of the range of grasp
by any one who can read and who studies the presentation.

               I hope you will enjoy the exploration
                                         cheers

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Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« on: February 17, 2014, 07:53:56 PM »

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 11:27:51 PM »
Thanks for sharing.

The tests are to extensive for me to reproduce, so I am just hoping you are right.

All I can add is this: if two magnets (NS-NS) are on (top of) each other, you will rather use a sideways force to get them apart, which seems to be easier as then to just take them apart as how they came together.


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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 02:43:48 AM »
Me too

Offline Floor

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 04:03:42 AM »
Notes from floor


                  good hunting


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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 04:13:28 AM »
It looks as if many readers may not have noticed the "TDanimation.PDF file.

                   ABOVE

It contains a quick view / animation of the "motion set", and makes the
flow of the interactions immediately clear

                                CHEERS

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 04:13:28 AM »
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Offline Gabriele

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 03:51:13 AM »
Is there a modeling software can computate the operation?

Offline Floor

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 04:28:05 PM »
Will the soft ware see this


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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 04:28:05 PM »
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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 05:35:48 PM »
@ all interested

Looking at the numbers of down loads of the various PDF files, it appears
to me as if half of the readers have not noticed the "TDanimation1.PDF file.

(my fault,  poor placement in the posts)

This file gives a quick view of the motions / interactions in the experiment, and
makes the interactions immediately clear.

So I am re-posting it below

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2015, 12:29:32 AM »
@ all readers

An idea for a magnet shape, that might improve / favorably bias the start of the rotational
magnets motion.

             see the jpg file below
                      cheers
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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 02:49:00 AM »
This method of matching the output of a TD (twist drive) to the input of another TD came upon me several months ago.  But it was kind of unclear in my mind, (there are a lot of motions to sequence).

The problem being addressed is that the "peak force required during the input stroke is at the finish of the stroke, while the peak force of the output rotation is at the start of the rotation.

I got around to drawing a flow diagram for both a self looping and a cascading configuration.

The answer comes as a second TD unit which is based upon magnetically attracting interactions,... in combination with a first TD unit which is based upon magnetically repelling interactions.

Please see the two attached JPEG files

                                               Best wishes
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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 02:49:00 AM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 03:01:06 AM »
Files were oversize had to shrink them

2 Dual TD cascade.ai.jpg  and 2 Dual TD.ai.jpg

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 03:05:59 AM »
Sorry the jpegs are larger than I hoped for, but I'll let it stand this time.

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 04:07:37 AM »
It could be designed as a circular motor,   which just has 1 stator-magnet,  attracting magnets on the wheel .
      So, the single stator-magnet,  could have an axle running through it,  so that it could turn like a propellor,  and then using the  momentum  of the wheel moving( from attraction ),  that momentum of the wheel could be used to turn the  single stator-magnet 90-degrees,  each time a magnet on the wheel spins past .
(  you can figure the rest out )
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I have also been using the example of separating, and joining 2 magnets, to explain my idea for electrolysis of water  :
  http://overunity.com/8798/theoretical-efficiency-of-electrolysis/msg473379/#msg473379

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Also, if youre bored, you can view my  magnet-motor-1, and magnet-motor-2 ( and one or two others ) from the following post :
http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/msg473357/#msg473357

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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 04:20:31 PM »
@ guest 1289

Your pelton wheel application to magnetism is
 an interesting idea.

I've seen some experimenters try to shape magnetic
fields as method to gain energy.

There might be something analogous to a pelton wheel
that could increase the efficiency of a magnet motor. 
Its not my area of experimentation though. 

The devices I build are to make measurements.  I have not
tried to build a "motor". 

I'm working (for the present) under a premise that momentum
cannot be completely maintained in any process involving a permanent
magnet OU device.  This due to right angle interactions.

Energy doesn't come from nowhere.

It may have originated in the "vacuum / ether" ?
As someone one once coined it  "a firmament"

It may come from "the vacuum / ether" ?
As someone one else once coined it  "a permanent firmament"

                          Best wishes
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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2016, 04:24:04 PM »
Two pdf files that show the interactions in a (3 magne)t TD unit.
Useing 3 magnets is a simplification, as it combines 1 of the
return strokes with the input stroke.  This does not change
the over all input to output ratio.

1 unit's input is against replsion. the other unit's input is
against attraction. The same 19+ % greater output after the
return strokes should be present in the inout against attraction
unit, although I have not tested this.


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Re: Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2016, 04:24:04 PM »

 

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