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Author Topic: Lenzless resonant transformer  (Read 100065 times)

Offline Jack Noskills

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Lenzless resonant transformer
« on: January 17, 2014, 10:58:15 AM »

I have discovered resonant magnetic flux effect and made a device which I think is electrical version of Tesla's earthquake machine. I can now make a device that is small and powerfull enough to power cellphones and PCs. This level is enough for me, proof of concept. I believe this can be scaled up but I don't want to take all the fun so I am asking you to join the party.


Builder, your job is first to replicate it and then see if it can be scaled up. All details are in the pdf. It falls well in the 'so simple you will laugh' category.


Abstract from the pdf:
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This short paper describes a simple method how to build a lenzless resonant transformer. Lenz law is not violated but it is used to create more efficient transformer. Without Lenz law this setup could not work.
First some simple tests are presented which forms foundation of the device. Then based on the results of these tests I built the transformer which confirms my test results. It is important to understand the method which will give you understanding. When you understand it you can build it using different components.
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Lenzless resonant transformer
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Offline forest

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 12:36:06 PM »
Jack,


You are genious !  :)   I have though a lot of questions. If I understood the concept the two magnetic currents from both secondary coils will not be pick up by primary if they are exactly equal and opposite in core (I investigate round or C-I core of Fig2). Did you tested it with various loads or it only act that way for one adjusted load ? Did you tested shorted output ? Is that the case of having series resonant circuit at secondary to allow such shorting tests ?
Much more to be digested for me but I'm greatly thankful ! That may be exactly what Don Smith had shown in one video available on youtube !


I have also a hard time understanding how the primary wound on both secondaries would produce AC current of the same phase ?


Note for future : Would that work if  pulsing primary with rectified DC (probably not square wave) to get one direction pulsed magnetic current inside core and the DC output from secondaries !!!???? I know that may be distraction at that stage but if you tested all before consider testing this also, because having DC output (2times because two secondaries but many more could be allowed of course) would considerably simplify design, COP would stil be >1 due to Q of primary tank circuit multiplied by amps of many secondaries. Put that open source if you could....


I believe what is needed is the exact coils winding directions and the resulting fluxes by primary and response from secondaries.


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Forest

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Offline Jack Noskills

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 01:11:14 PM »
I had only two halogen light bulbs. I connected one, there was light, and then second bulb which lighted up and first one dimmed just a little. So not enough power to run both at the same time.


I tested shorting, I think it had little effect on primary. I think this is due to the fact that I was not even close to optimum frequency at both sides. I was lucky to get it close enough. When output is shorted without load then all power will be reactive so I guess it is harmless. But don't count on it. There should be no power in the output leads when load is not connected. There is no resonant rise occurring hence no power and no output. Only when output LC-circuit is completed with load resonant rise can occur and with that comes power.


This setup resembles Don's shoe box device which had only NST and metglass C core. Exactly the same kind of coiling at least.


I think DC options would not work. Half wave sine is a sum of multiple frequencies and there has got to be only one. But if you make a successful replication then maybe you can try it. Easiest way to get DC out is to use a diode bridge with smoothing capacitor. I tested with pulse and all I got was a squeaking noise from the core and no output.


Winding directions are in the pdf. If winding is changed it only affects polarity of the coils and you need to connect N poles together and S poles together so that secondary coils repel at output. If this is done wrong then nothing will come out and power circulates in the secondary coils only. If you make a mistake, just reverse one secondary. I have tested both CW-CW and CW-CCW secondary windings and both worked just the same.


Winding direction of primary does not matter.


All is open source and any derivations from this will also be open source. This is why I made a pdf instead of video. Provided that this is the first realization of this device of course I can claim it 'mine' and be authorized to say it is open source. Most likely this is not the first device but I guess we will see.

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 01:28:25 PM »
Just thought I'd add a note; parallel coils add like parallel resistance... 1/(L1+L2+...) = 1/(Ltotal)... since L1 and L2 are the same this is the same as 1/L1 + 1/L1 or 2/L1... which when reversed is L1/2 = Ltotal... so parallel will reduce your inductance by half if they are the same... and will always be less than the least inductance...





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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 02:46:52 PM »
Well done, good work.
Love to see your actual setup.


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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 04:32:22 PM »
Jack

Yes.. Well Done.
Can you post a pic of your build?

I'm going to try to replicate it this weekend if I have the parts.

DonL

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 07:21:29 PM »
I had only two halogen light bulbs. I connected one, there was light, and then second bulb which lighted up and first one dimmed just a little. So not enough power to run both at the same time.
Do you think that this circuit is OU?

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 08:36:20 PM »
I have discovered resonant magnetic flux effect and made a device which I think is electrical version of Tesla's earthquake machine. I can now make a device that is small and powerfull enough to power cellphones and PCs. This level is enough for me, proof of concept. I believe this can be scaled up but I don't want to take all the fun so I am asking you to join the party.


Builder, your job is first to replicate it and then see if it can be scaled up. All details are in the pdf. It falls well in the 'so simple you will laugh' category.


Abstract from the pdf:
'
This short paper describes a simple method how to build a lenzless resonant transformer. Lenz law is not violated but it is used to create more efficient transformer. Without Lenz law this setup could not work.
First some simple tests are presented which forms foundation of the device. Then based on the results of these tests I built the transformer which confirms my test results. It is important to understand the method which will give you understanding. When you understand it you can build it using different components.
'


Have fun and be safe!

Hi Jack

Are you used soft steel or ferrite core on your device?

regards zcsaba

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 11:05:55 PM »
Hi there,

I would like to contribute something here as well:
http://youtu.be/PUcUvcoln-Y?t=2m45s - The JB Lenz-less motor
http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US555190-0.png (top left) - The N. Tesla (Lenz-less??) generator (not described in detail)
http://youtu.be/Zu4pzvkSkzo#t=0h12m00s - The shorting of toroidal generator without almost any reaction to motor.

They are directly related to this topic and to each other - please look closely on coils winding directions and amount of windings between 2 coils, the most important thing is there to get around Lenz... ;)

P.S> Also that is directly related to http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf
Hopefuly that will bring to understanding of what is most important there.

Good luck!

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2014, 01:30:57 PM »
Well done
Thanks


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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 12:03:08 AM »
Page 57

Pdf below

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 02:06:22 AM »
Page 57
Good find, however in Jack's device the L2 winding is split into two magnetically opposing MMF sources. 
From the perspective of a magnetic circuit, that seems like a significant difference


Online Magluvin

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 02:21:39 AM »
Good find, however in Jack's device the L2 winding is split into two magnetically opposing MMF sources. 
From the perspective of a magnetic circuit, that seems like a significant difference

There are different versions in the pdf.  The idea is that the outer primary winding induces the inner winding, but the inner winding current does not affect the primary, because the primary windings do not go through the hole of the core, and the secondary field is restricted to the core and the hole of the core. ;)

Mags

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2014, 11:59:44 AM »
I have doubt about secondaries. What is the correct process of connecting them ? Say I wind two coils of the same wire length and the same turns and I measure both almost the same inductance. I understood that I have to connect them in the way the resulting inductance measured by meter is minimized, right ? Would that be the correct procedure ?
Now I have to know the limit frequency for my core. Where can I find it ? In case of using two C cores joined together (kind of oval core divided into two parts like in Don Smith video) of iron what is the  upper limit ?


Then I have to attach correct capacitor and find (or compute is enough ??) resonant frequency .  The same frequency would be for series tank circuit so the capacitor remain in circuit just connected in series.


Next step  is to wind primary and connect primary capacitor in parallel tank circuit of the same resonant frequency as output tank circuit. So far so good but Jack you put some holes into document by not explaining why for some frequencies there is no power output and we should try higher frequency. The load connection is also not provided and I doubt it will work in various loads except for resistive load of known stable resistance. However that is not the point of matter for this document and I see everybody has to figure out the load connection  to not disturb series resonance at output. Don Smith had given us a few clues about that...




Jack , please fix the steps above if there is something wrong.

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2014, 09:29:30 PM »
Hi there,

I would like to contribute something here as well:
http://youtu.be/PUcUvcoln-Y?t=2m45s - The JB Lenz-less motor
http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US555190-0.png (top left) - The N. Tesla (Lenz-less??) generator (not described in detail)
http://youtu.be/Zu4pzvkSkzo#t=0h12m00s - The shorting of toroidal generator without almost any reaction to motor.

They are directly related to this topic and to each other - please look closely on coils winding directions and amount of windings between 2 coils, the most important thing is there to get around Lenz... ;)

P.S> Also that is directly related to http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf
Hopefuly that will bring to understanding of what is most important there.

Good luck!

Hi T-1000

What is on picture on left upper black box?

regards zcsaba77

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Re: Lenzless resonant transformer
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