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Offline Jeg

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Tesla Radiant Receiver - Collector
« on: December 18, 2013, 12:13:51 PM »
Hi to all! :)

I'd like to ask about the orientation of the insulated metal plate which will collect the positive charges from the atmosphere. In Tesla schematics is at a vertical position but i'd like also to hear your opinion on this, as it will determine the place where i will put them. I found galvanized metal plates 2mX1m, and i intend to paint them with a metal transparent varnish to insulate them. The height difference between ground and plate will be about at 15m.

The place where i live is very windy and i have to think very well where to put the collectors. One thought is to handle them as a normal sun charge collector, lying them down on my roof. But, i am not sure about the losses in relation with the orientation (angle)! Has anyone tried it?

Tnks
Jeg 

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Tesla Radiant Receiver - Collector
« on: December 18, 2013, 12:13:51 PM »

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Re: Tesla Radiant Receiver - Collector
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 06:55:26 PM »
Hi to all! :)

I'd like to ask about the orientation of the insulated metal plate which will collect the positive charges from the atmosphere. In Tesla schematics is at a vertical position but i'd like also to hear your opinion on this, as it will determine the place where i will put them. I found galvanized metal plates 2mX1m, and i intend to paint them with a metal transparent varnish to insulate them. The height difference between ground and plate will be about at 15m.

The place where i live is very windy and i have to think very well where to put the collectors. One thought is to handle them as a normal sun charge collector, lying them down on my roof. But, i am not sure about the losses in relation with the orientation (angle)! Has anyone tried it?

Tnks
Jeg
I don't know, but what I do know is that you should hang it outside in the free due thunderstrike risk.

Also here is more info about the 'radiant collector' as he called in his patent(s).

Also please let me know anyprogress/succes you come up with.
All 'free' energy devices, which seem to get overrunity (from reading aka theory) seem to be pulsing as large voltages as fast as possible for 'best' gain.

This is what I read from the theory. I read a lot about this.
Problem with pulsing alot of power is the wires getting hot, this should get fixed by electrostatic energy as well radiant energy ?

Anyways saw 70+ vieuws no response. This is what I know but that doesn't mean its true.

Sincerely.

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl

More specific;
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Chapter7.pdf

I quote, without picture's;
Nikola Tesla’s Aerial System.
Nikola  Tesla  produced  an  aerial  device  which  is  worth  mentioning.    It  was  patented  on  May  21st  1901  as  an
“Apparatus for the Utilisation of Radiant Energy”, US Patent number 685,957.   

 

 

 

The device appears simple but Tesla states that the capacitor needs to be “of considerable electrostatic capacity”
and he recommends using the best quality mica to construct it as described in his 1897 patent No. 577,671.   The
circuit draws power via an insulated, shiny metal plate.  The insulation could be spray-on plastic.  The larger the
plate, the greater the energy pick-up.  The higher the plate is elevated, the greater the pick-up.

 

 

This  system  of  Tesla’s  picks  up  energy  day  and  night.    The  capacitor  gets  charged  up  and  a  vibrating  switch
repeatedly  discharges  the  capacitor  into  the  step-down  transformer.    The  transformer  lowers  the  voltage  and
raises the current available and the output is then used to power the electrical load.

 

It  seems  probable  that  this  device  operates  primarily  from  static  electricity,  which  some  people  believe  is  a
manifestation  of  the  zero-point  energy field. Tesla’s equipment might well operate when fed by a motor-driven
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Wimshurst machine instead of a large aerial plate.  Details of home-built Wimshurst equipment are available in
the book ‘Homemade Lightning’ by R.A. Ford, ISBN 0-07-021528-6.

 

However, it should be understood that Tesla described two different forms of energy pick-up.  The first is static
electricity,  picked  up  from  very  slight  interaction  of  the  pick-up  plate  with  the  zero-point  energy  field  flowing
through it, and the other being pick-up of dynamic radiant energy events, typically from lightning strikes.  At a
casual glance, the average person would not consider lightning as being a viable source of energy, but this is not
the case as there are about two hundred lightning strikes per second - mainly in the tropics - and what is generally
not understood is that they are radiant energy events and their effects are felt instantly everywhere on earth as
transmissions through the zero-point energy field are instantaneous at any distance.  To clarify the situation a little
more,  here  are  two  of  Tesla's  patents,  one  on  pick-up  of  the  static  field  which  Tesla  remarks  appears  to  be
unlimited in voltage, and one patent on pick-up of dynamic energy.

 

This is a slightly re-worded copy of this patent, as some words have changed their meaning since this patent was
issued.  If you wish to see the original, then http://www.freepatentsonline.com will allow you to download a copy
without any charge.

 

Patent US 685,957                  5th November 1901                    Inventor: Nikola Tesla   

 

 

APPARATUS  FOR  THE  UTILISATION  OF  RADIANT  ENERGY

 

 

To all whom it may concern:
Be it known that I, Nikola Tesla, a citizen of the Unites States, residing at the borough of Manhattan, in the city,
county  and  State  of  New  York,  have  invented  certain  new  and  useful  improvements  in  Apparatus  for  the
Utilisation  of  Radiant  Energy,  of  which  the  following  is  a  specification,  reference  being  had  to  the  drawings
accompanying and forming a part of the same.

 

It is well known that certain radiations - such as those of ultra-violet light, cathodic, Roentgen rays, or the like -
possess  the  property  of  charging  and  discharging  conductors  of  electricity,  the  discharge  being  particularly
noticeable  when  the  conductor  upon  which  the  rays  impinge  is  negatively  electrified.    These  radiations  are
generally considered to be ether vibrations of extremely small wave lengths, and in explanation of the phenomena
noted, it has been assumed by some authorities that they ionise, or render conducting, the atmosphere through
which they are propagated.  However, my own experiments and observations lead me to conclusions more in
accord  with  the  theory  heretofore  advanced  by  me  that  sources  of  such  radiant  energy  throw  off  with  great
velocity, minute particles of matter which are strongly electrified, and therefore capable of charging an electrical
conductor, or, even if not so, may at any rate discharge an electrified conductor, either by bodily carrying off its
charge or otherwise.

 

My present application is based upon a discovery which I have made that when rays or radiations of the above
kind  are  permitted to fall upon an insulated conducting-body connected to one of the terminals of a capacitor,
while  the  other  terminal  of  the  capacitor  is  made  to  receive  or  carry  away  electricity,  a  current  flows  into  the
capacitor  so  long  as  the  insulated  body  is  exposed  to  the  rays,  and  under  the  conditions  specified  below,  an
indefinite accumulation of electrical energy in the capacitor takes place.  After a suitable time interval during which
the rays are allowed to act, this energy may manifest itself in a powerful discharge, which may be used for the
operation or control of mechanical or electrical devices, or rendered useful in many other ways.

 

In applying my discovery, I provide a capacitor, preferably of considerable electrostatic capacity, and connect one
of its terminals to an insulated metal plate or other conducting-body exposed to the rays or streams of radiant
matter.    It  is  very  important,  particularly  in  view  of  the  fact  that  electrical  energy  is  generally  supplied  to  the
capacitor at a very slow rate, to construct the capacitor with the greatest care.  I prefer to use the best quality of
mica as the dielectric, taking every possible precaution in insulating the armatures, so that the instrument may
withstand great electrical pressures without leaking and may leave no perceptible electrification when discharging
instantaneously.  In practice, I have found that the best results are obtained with capacitors treated in the manner
described in Patent 577,671 granted to me on 23rd February 1897.  Obviously, the above precautions should be
the more rigorously observed the slower the rate of charging and the smaller the time interval during which the
energy is allowed to accumulate in the capacitor.  The insulated plate or conducting-body should present to the
rays  or  streams  of  matter,  as  large  a  surface  as  is  practical,  I  having  ascertained  that  the  amount  of  energy
conveyed to it per unit of time is, under otherwise identical conditions, proportional to the area exposed, or nearly
so.    Furthermore,  the  surface  should  be  clean  and  preferably  highly  polished  or  amalgamated.    The  second
terminal  or  armature  of  the  capacitor  may  be  connected  to  one  of  the  poles  of  a  battery  or  other  source  of
electricity, or to any conducting body or object whatever of  such properties or so conditioned  that by its means,
electricity of the required sign will be supplied to the terminal.  A simple way of supplying positive or negative


electricity to the terminal is to connect it to an insulated conductor supported at some height in the atmosphere, or
to a grounded conductor, the former, as is well known, furnishing positive, and the latter negative electricity.  As
the rays or supposed streams of matter generally convey a positive charge to the first terminal of the capacitor
mentioned  above.    I  usually  connect  the  second  terminal  of  the  capacitor  to  the  ground,  this  being  the  most
convenient way of obtaining negative electricity, dispensing with the necessity of providing an artificial source.  In
order to use the energy collected in the capacitor for any useful purpose, I also connect to the capacitor terminals,
a circuit containing an instrument or apparatus which it is desired to operate, and another instrument or device for
alternately closing and opening the circuit.  This latter device can be any form of circuit-controller with fixed or
moveable parts or electrodes, which may be actuated either by the stored energy or by independent means.
 
My discovery will be more fully understood from the following description and drawings, where Fig.1 is a diagram
showing the general arrangement of the apparatus as usually employed.
 
 
 
 
Fig.2 is a similar diagram, illustrating in more detail, typical forms of the devices or elements used in practice.
 
 
 
 
Fig.3 and Fig.4 are diagrams of modified arrangements suitable for special purposes.
 
 
 
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Fig.1  shows  the  simplest  form,  in  which  C  is  the  capacitor,  P  the  insulated  plate  or  conducting-body  which  is
exposed to the rays, and P' another plate or conductor which is grounded, all being connected in series as shown. 
The terminals T and T' of the capacitor C are also connected to a circuit which contains a device R which is to be
operated, and a circuit-controlling device d as described above.
 
The apparatus being arranged as shown, it will be found that when the radiation of the sun, or any other source
capable  of  producing  the  effects  described  above,  fall  on  plate  P,  there  will  be  an  accumulation  of  energy  in
capacitor C.  I believe that this phenomenon is best explained as follows: The sun, as well as other sources of
radiant  energy  ,  throws  off  minute  particles  of  positively  electrified  matter,  which  striking  plate  P,  create  an
electrical  charge  on  it.    The  opposite  terminal  of  the  capacitor  being  connected  to  the  ground,  which  can  be
considered to be a vast reservoir of negative electricity, a feeble current flows continuously into the capacitor, and
since these supposed particles are of an inconceivably small radius or curvature, and consequently, charged to a
very high voltage, this charging of the capacitor may continue as I have actually observed, almost indefinitely,
even to the point of rupturing the dielectric.  If the device d be of such character that it will operate to close the
circuit in which it is included when the capacitor voltage has reached a certain level, then the accumulated charge
will pass through the circuit, operating the receiver R.
 
 
In illustration of this effect, Fig.2 shows the same general arrangement as in Fig.1, and the device d is shown
composed of two very thin conducting plates t and t' which are free to move and placed very close to each other. 
The  freedom  of  movement  can  be  either  through  the  flexibility  of  the  plates  or  through  the  character  of  their
support.  To improve their action they should be enclosed in a housing which can have the air removed from it. 
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The plates t and t' are connected in series in a working circuit which includes a suitable receiver, which in this
example is shown as an electromagnet M, a moveable armature a, a spring b, and a ratchet wheel w, provided
with a spring-pawl r, which is pivoted to armature a as illustrated.  When the radiation falls on plate P, a current
flows into the capacitor until its voltage causes the plates t and t' to be attracted together, closing the circuit and
energising the magnet M, causing it to draw down the armature a and cause a partial rotation of the ratchet wheel
w.  When the current flow stops, the armature is retracted by the spring b, without, however, moving the wheel w. 
With the stoppage of the current, the plates t and t' cease to be attracted and separate, thus restoring the circuit
to its original condition.
 
 
 
Fig.3 shows a modified form of apparatus used in connection with an artificial source of radiant energy, which in
this case may be an arc emitting copious ultra-violet rays.  A suitable reflector may be provided for concentrating
and directing the radiation.  A magnet R and circuit-controller d are arranged as in the previous figures, but in this
case,  instead  of  performing  the  whole  of  the  work,  the  magnet  performs  the  task  of  alternately  opening  and
closing a local circuit, containing a source of current B and a receiving or translating device D.  The controller d
may, if desired, consist of two fixed electrodes separated by a minute air gap or weak dielectric film which breaks
down more or less suddenly when a definite voltage difference is reached at the terminals of the capacitor, and
returns to its original state when the discharge occurs.
 
 
 
 
Still another modification is shown in Fig.4, in which S, the source of radiant energy is a special form of Roentgen
tube devised by me, having only one terminal k, generally of aluminium, in the form of half a sphere, with a plain
polished surface on the front side, from which the streams are thrown off.  It may be excited by attaching it to one
of the terminals of any generator with sufficiently high electromotive force; but whatever apparatus is used, it is
important  that  the  tube  has  the  air  inside  it  removed  to  a  high  degree,  otherwise  it  might  prove  to  be  entirely
ineffective.  The working, or discharge circuit connected to the terminals T and T' of the capacitor, includes, in this
case, the primary winding p of a transformer, and a circuit-controller comprised of a fixed terminal or brush t and a
moveable terminal t' in the shape of a wheel, with conducting and insulating segments, which may be rotated at
an arbitrary speed by any suitable means.  In inductive relation to the primary winding p, is a secondary winding
s, usually of a much greater number of turns, to the ends of which is connected a receiver R.  The terminals of the
capacitor being connected as shown, one to an insulated plate P and the other to a grounded plate P'.  When the
tube S is excited, rays or streams of matter are emitted from it and these convey a positive charge to the plate P
and capacitor terminal T, while the capacitor terminal T' is continuously receiving negative electricity from plate P'. 
As already explained, this results in an accumulation of electrical energy in the capacitor, and this continues as
long as the circuit including the primary winding p is interrupted.  Whenever the circuit is closed by the rotation of
the terminal t', the stored energy is discharged through the primary winding p, giving rise to induced currents in
the secondary winding s, which operates the receiver R.
 
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It  is  clear  from  what  has  been  stated  above,  that  if  the  terminal  T'  is  connected  to  a  plate  supplying  positive
instead of negative electricity, then the rays should convey negative electricity to plate P.  The source S may be
any form of Roentgen or Leonard tube, but it is obvious from the theory of action that in order to be very effective,
the impulses exciting it should be wholly, or mainly of one sign.  If ordinary symmetrical alternating currents are
employed, then provision should be made for allowing the rays to fall on plate P only during those periods when
they can produce the desired result.  Obviously, if the source radiation is stopped or intercepted, or the intensity
varied in any manner such as periodically interrupting or rhythmically varying the current exciting the source, there
will be corresponding changes in the action upon the receiver R and thus signals may be transmitted and many
other useful effects produced.  Further, it will be understood that any form of circuit-closer which will respond, or
be set in operation when a predetermined amount of energy is stored in the capacitor, may be used instead of the
device already described in connection with Fig.2.
 
The second patent requires the equipment to be tuned to one quarter of the wavelength of the energy pulses
being collected.  This patent shows a transmission method as well as a receiving method, but our main concern
here is the receiving section shown on  the right of the diagram as that can receive naturally occurring energy
pulses in the environment and so provides free usable energy.
 
As it may be a little difficult to visualise the coil arrangement in this patent as many people are familiar with the
"Tesla Coil" arrangement where a few turns of thick wire or copper tubing are used as a winding placed around an
ordinary cylindrical coil, much like, this illustration from Tesla's patent US 568,178:
 
 
 
In this case it should be understood that Tesla is speaking about his flat "pancake" coil design and not the well-
known Tesla Coil configuration.
 
 
Patent US 649,621                  15th May 1900                    Inventor: Nikola Tesla             
 
 
APPARATUS  FOR  THE  TRANSMISSION  OF  ELECTRICAL  ENERGY
 
 
To all whom it may concern:
Be it known that I, Nikola Tesla, a citizen of the Unites States, residing at the borough of Manhattan, in the city,
county  and  State  of  New  York,  have  invented  certain  new  and  useful  improvements  in  Apparatus  for  the
Transmission of Electrical Energy, of which the following is a specification, reference being had to the drawing
accompanying and forming a part of the same.
 
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This application is a division of an application filed by me on 2nd September 1897, US 650,343 entitled "Systems
of Transmission of Electrical Energy" and is based on new and useful features and combinations of apparatus
shown and described in that patent application.
 
This invention comprises a transmitting coil or conductor in which electrical currents or oscillations are produced
and which is arranged to cause these currents or oscillations to be propagated by conduction through the natural
medium from one location to a remote location, and a receiving coil or conductor adapted to be excited by the
oscillations or currents propagated by the transmitter.
 
This apparatus is shown in the accompanying diagram where A is a coil, generally of many turns and of a very
large diameter, wound in spiral form, either around a magnetic core or not as may be desired.  C is a second coil
formed by a conductor of much larger size and smaller length, wound around and in proximity to coil A.
 
The apparatus at one point is used as a transmitter, the coil A in this case forming a high-voltage secondary of a
transformer, and the coil C the primary which operates at a much lower voltage.  The source of current for the
primary winding is marked G.  One terminal of the secondary winding A is at the centre of the spiral coil, and from
this terminal the current is led by a conductor B to a terminal D, preferably of large surface, formed or maintained
by such means as a balloon at an elevation suitable for the purpose of transmission.  The other terminal of the
secondary winding A is connected to earth, and if desired, to the primary winding also in order that the primary
winding may also be at substantially the same voltage as the adjacent portions of the secondary winding, thus
ensuring safety.
 
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At the receiving station, a transformer of similar construction is used, but in this case the coil A' constitutes the
primary winding and the shorter coil C' is the secondary winding.  In this receiving circuit, lamps L, motors M, or
other devices for using this current, are connected.  The elevated terminal D' connects with the centre of the coil
A' and the other terminal is connected to earth and preferably, also, to the coil C' again for safety reasons as
mentioned above.


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The length of the thin wire coil in each transformer should be approximately one quarter of the wave length of the
electric  disturbance  in  the  circuit,  this  estimate  being  based  on  the  velocity  of  propagation  of  the  disturbance
through the coil itself and the circuit with which it is designed to be used.  By way of illustration, if the rate at which
the current flows through the circuit containing the coil is 185,000 miles per second, then a frequency of 925 Hz
would maintain 925 stationary nodes in a circuit 185,000 miles long and each wave would be 200 miles in length.
 
For such a low frequency, which would only be resorted to when it is indispensable for the operation of ordinary
motors, I would use a secondary winding wound from a wire 50 miles in length.  By adjusting the length of wire in
the secondary winding, the points of highest voltage are made to coincide with the elevated terminals D and D',
and it should be understood that whatever wire length is chosen, this length requirement should be complied with
in order to get the best possible results.
 
It will be readily understood that when these relationships exist, the best conditions for resonance between the
transmitting and receiving circuits are attained and owing to the fact that the points of highest voltage in the coils
A and A' are coincident with the elevated terminals, the maximum current flow will take place in the two coils and
this implies that the capacitance and inductance in each of the circuits have the values which produce the most
perfect synchronism with the oscillations.
 
When the source of current G is in operation and produces rapidly pulsating or oscillating currents in the circuit of
coil C, corresponding induced currents of very much higher voltage are generated in the secondary coil A, and
since the voltage in that coil gradually increases with the number of turns towards the centre, and the voltage
difference between adjacent turns is comparatively small, a very high voltage is generated, which would not be
possible with ordinary coils.
 
As the main objective is to produce a current with excessively high voltage, this objective is facilitated by using a
current in the primary winding which has a very considerable frequency, but that frequency is in a large measure,
arbitrary,  because  if  the  voltage  is  sufficiently  high  and  the  terminals  of  the  coils  be  kept  at  the  proper  height
where the atmosphere is rarefied, the stratum of air will serve as a conducting medium with even less resistance
then through an ordinary conductor.
 
As to the elevation of terminals D and D', it is obvious that this is a matter which will be determined by a number
of things, such as the amount and the quality of the work to be performed, the condition of the atmosphere and
the character of the surrounding countryside.  Thus, if there are high mountains in the vicinity, then the terminals
should be at a greater height, and generally, they should be at an altitude much greater than that of the highest
objects near them.  Since, by the means described, practically any voltage which is desired may be produced, the
currents through the air strata may be very small, thus reducing the loss in the air.
 
The apparatus at the receiving station responds to the currents propagated by the transmitter in a manner which
will be well understood from the description above.  The primary circuit of the receiver - that is, the thin wire coil A'
- is excited by the currents propagated by conduction through the intervening natural medium between it and the
transmitter,  and  these  currents  induce  in  the  secondary  coil  C',  other  currents  which  are  used  to  operate  the
devices connected to that circuit.
 
Obviously, the receiving coils, transformers, or other apparatus may be moveable - as for instance, when they are
carried by a vessel floating in the air or by a ship at sea.  In the former case, the connection of one terminal of the
receiving apparatus to the ground might not be permanent, but might be intermittently or inductively established.
 
It should be noted that Tesla's suggestion of using the conductive envelope of a specially constructed balloon as
a good method of increasing the active area of the elevated receiving plate, is one that was taken up by Hermann
Plauson when he was building power stations operating on naturally occurring energy.
 
Jes Ascanius’ Version of Nikola Tesla’s Aerial System.
This sort of information may seem confusing and maybe a little too technical for you, so let me tell you about the
practical and useful applications used by Jes Ascanius, a Danish developer, to whom thanks is due for sharing his
design.  Initially, he set up a system to charge his mobile phone battery overnight from an aerial.  Then he went
on to produce a full-size Tesla Aerial System as described at the start of this chapter.  Let’s start with the very
simple system and progress from that to the more powerful arrangements.
 
The initial circuit uses one strand of solid wire which rises vertically to a 700 mm diameter drum where there are
some twenty turns.  The arrangement is like this:
 


 
 
 
The aerial wire is several metres long, and in the prototype, was supported by (and insulated from) the eaves of a
house.  The aerial should be vertical or near vertical and a proper earth connection provided by driving a metal
rod into the ground or connecting a wire to a metal plate and burying the plate in the ground as a good electrical
connection is needed here.  The earth connection used here is a 12 mm copper pipe 3 metres long, driven into
the ground and the ground around it saturated with water:
 
 
 
The wire used to connect with the earthing rod is very important and should not be less than 8 swg copper wire,
that  is,  4  mm  diameter  and  13  sq.  mm.  cross-sectional  area.    As  with  all  free-energy  devices,  the  exact
constructional details are vital.
 
The diodes used are germanium 1N34 or 1N34a which are particularly suited to this application.  Ceramic disc
types are recommended for the 200 nF capacitors.   The prototype build looked like this:
 
 
 
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Now, consider this circuit as described, to be one modular building block which can lead to unlimited power from
an aerial.  I will represent the circuit shown above as a rectangle, showing the above circuit as:
 
 
 
While it is possible to use more than one module with the aerial to get more power, the Danish developer then
switched to the full-blown Tesla arrangement by attaching a 600 x 800 x 2 mm aluminium plate inside the sloping
roof of his house:
 
 
 
 
 
The plate being suspended using nylon cord to prevent it touching the roof or anything else:
 
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The plate is positioned between 3 and 3.5 metres (10 to 12 feet) above the ground and the attachment to the
plate is also heavy-duty 8 swg cable:
 
 
 
 
The  cable  is  connected  to  the  aluminium  plate  using  a  brass  bolt  and  nuts  which  the  builder  thinks  may  be
significant,  quite  apart  from  avoiding  any  galvanitic  connection  to  the  circuit.    The  cable  is  then  run  vertically
downwards to the circuit.  For this arrangement a second earthing point is also used.  This is a galvanised iron
pipe 3 metres long, driven vertically into the ground which is saturated with water.  The second earth is 2 metres
away from the first earth and there is no known significance in the use of an iron pipe as it was used because it
was to hand at the time..
 
This arrangement provides serious power, enough to cause injury to, or kill a careless human.  With two
modules, it will light an LED very brightly, driving it to 2.6 volts.  If the LED is removed, then the voltage climbs to
about twenty volts and is easily sufficient to charge a 12V battery or battery bank although that takes time.  With
twenty  modules  a  12V  battery  can  be  charged over night.   It is estimated that with two hundred modules, the
power would be sufficient to power a household although that has not yet been done.  It should be borne in mind
that each module is easy and cheap to make, so arranging for a stack of them where additional modules can be
added at a later date for more power, is an ideal arrangement.  The circuit is like this:
 
 
This  circuit  looks  completely  mad  as  the  aerial input to the circuit appears to be directly short-circuited by the
second  earth  connection.    In  spite  of  this,  the  circuit  works  very  well  when  connected  this  way.    Additional
modules can be added without any known limit.  Increased power can be had by either raising the aluminium plate
higher above the ground, to say, 10 metres (33 feet), or by adding one or more additional aerial plates.  As you
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have a good aerial connected through to a very good earth, there has to be the possibility of the equipment being
hit by lightning, and so it is recommended that a protective spark-gap is installed between the aerial and the earth,
close to the circuit, so that if high-voltage is suddenly applied to the aerial, the spark gap will fire and shunt the
excess power through to the earth.  Alternatively, possibly a better solution is to install a standard lightning rod
system a few metres away from the aerial and a metre or two higher up, so that it forms a more attractive point for
a lightning strike.   
 
Further experimentation has shown that altering the connection point for the aerial has a significant effect on the
results.  If the connection is made at the mid point between the aerial plate and the earth connection, it produces
a greater output:
 
 
 
With this arrangement a single module produces around 30 volts while the original method of connecting near the
earth was giving about 26 volts with two modules.
 
Dragan Kljajic has been experimenting with this circuit and has started by building many of these modules on a
printed circuit board like this:
 
 
 
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Using two of these boards, Dragan is pulling 96 watts continuously from his aerial plate.  He intends to extend this
arrangement much further, but is being hindered at present by a local civil war.
 
Here   is   a   forum:   http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/10947-jes-ascanius-radiant-collector.html
where  some  builders  of  this  system  share  comments.    One  comment  is  that  there  is  an  increased  risk  of  a
lightning  strike  where  you  have  an  earthed  aerial,  and  so  it  is  advisable  not  to  place  the  aerial  plate  inside  a
house, but perhaps suspended between two trees.  Also, using a car spark plug connected across the module set
can protect against lightning strikes damaging the circuitry.
 
As a result of queries, Jes stresses the following points:
 
1. The plate must be high off the ground.
2. The plate must be polished and insulated.
3. The wire must be single-strand solid wire.
4. There must not be any part of the wire above the circuit, which is not insulated.
 
He further comments: you can use aluminium foil and cling film to make many collector plates 0.4 m x 5 m and
connect  them  close together to feed the aerial wire.   Remember, no uninsulated wire anywhere.  Any queries
should be asked on the forum shown above.


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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 11:00:47 AM »
Thanks for the reply mx1000 :)

I experiment with a Tesla 'magnetic disruptor' at 2KV with a MOT based HV generator. I just like to take it higher with a well balanced collector antenna. At first i was thinking of using a normal radio dipole antenna, but it has to be very long for λ/4 configuration. (75 meters for each leg!!!) Then i realized that insulated metal plates as Tesla said, is exactly the same way as Vilhelm Reih's construction of his orgon-collectors. Many layers of wood and iron plates consist of a powerful orgon collector. Perhaps many layers of insulated copper will do the same job. But first i have to decide about the orientation. If Leedskalnin's magnetic currents is the case (which i believe it is as a real fan of him), then a vertical configuration looking south-North direction will be enough for making the job. If i remember well, H.Morray also used a dipole which has been oriented at a west-east direction, so the whole cable-surface to be in the middle of the North-South particle-passage.

To me, it seems that the bigger surface will contribute to a higher voltage collector, and many layers one above the other, will give a higher current. But this is only an assumption which first has to be confirmed experimentally.

Other issue is the choice of the capacitor's electrostatic capacity. As Tesla said it has to be BIG!!! But, he didn't mention the BPS rate. My experiments shows that the capacity strictly depends on the BPS rate. The higher the rate the smaller the capacitor has to be.
Whats your opinion guys!?
Tnks Jeg
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Thanks for the reply mx1000 :)

I experiment with a Tesla 'magnetic disruptor' at 2KV with a MOT based HV generator. I just like to take it higher with a well balanced collector antenna. At first i was thinking of using a normal radio dipole antenna, but it has to be very long for λ/4 configuration. (75 meters for each leg!!!) Then i realized that insulated metal plates as Tesla said, is exactly the same way as Vilhelm Reih's construction of his orgon-collectors. Many layers of wood and iron plates consist of a powerful orgon collector. Perhaps many layers of insulated copper will do the same job. But first i have to decide about the orientation. If Leedskalnin's magnetic currents is the case (which i believe it is as a real fan of him), then a vertical configuration looking south-North direction will be enough for making the job. If i remember well, H.Morray also used a dipole which has been oriented at a west-east direction, so the whole cable-surface to be in the middle of the North-South particle-passage.

To me, it seems that the bigger surface will contribute to a higher voltage collector, and many layers one above the other, will give a higher current. But this is only an assumption which first has to be confirmed experimentally.

Other issue is the choice of the capacitor's electrostatic capacity. As Tesla said it has to be BIG!!! But, he didn't mention the BPS rate. My experiments shows that the capacity strictly depends on the BPS rate. The higher the rate the smaller the capacitor has to be.
Whats your opinion guys!?
Tnks Jeg
This is to technical for me, in terms I cannot picture it for myself in my mind.
I only readed theory, and mis-builded a Tesla Coil.

Anyways, how much voltage you currently get ?
If its cold current you can run it endless in coils, therefore you should get more power.

From pictures/diagrams of tesla he seems to use ground water in a reservoir as capacitor. But it should be noted that according tesla and other inventers that the earth itself functions as a capacitor.
Try using the earth as a capacitor ?

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 06:42:40 PM »
I have made various test with this thing. First of all, it works well to pickup electro smog. I took an empty chips bag, metallic inside and connected it to my voltmeter, the other end to mains ground. I put the bag onto my laptop: 70 VAC!  Amps near zero. In order to rectify I added an LED, which was fried soon after, by static peaks.
Without E smog there isn't much V. Anyhow, what you need to do is, connect it to a hv cap, that to a sparkplug. the cap will be filled slowly, then discharge into a stepdown transformer that will pulsecharge a lead battety. Not much energy there tho. Make sure nothing's earthed but the battery minus. I think. You may also want to rectify the ac before it goes to the cap, with something like germanium, schottky or so, not silicium.



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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2014, 08:05:09 PM »
Hi to all! :)

I'd like to ask about the orientation of the insulated metal plate which will collect the positive charges from the atmosphere. In Tesla schematics is at a vertical position but i'd like also to hear your opinion on this, as it will determine the place where i will put them. I found galvanized metal plates 2mX1m, and i intend to paint them with a metal transparent varnish to insulate them. The height difference between ground and plate will be about at 15m.

The place where i live is very windy and i have to think very well where to put the collectors. One thought is to handle them as a normal sun charge collector, lying them down on my roof. But, i am not sure about the losses in relation with the orientation (angle)! Has anyone tried it?

Tnks
Jeg
Hey Jeg, this thread is looking kind of dead, but I wanted to post my research into this somewhere and this looks like the best place.
I haven't had any luck with the Jes Ascanius’ Version of Nikola Tesla’s Aerial System, although Inventor3 on YouTube has done the
best with it and has generated over 125 volts. He hasn't shown it in use under any kind of load, but that's better than Jes showed.

I haven't tried the plates, but am not sure how much power it will really produce. Neither Inventor3 or Jes showed any kind of amp
reading. I ended up ditching the antenna entirely and just going with 2 grounds, which worked best. It's technically an earth battery
in the realm of Stubblefield. Here are my 4 videos on this.

From the last couple days:
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Testing Components With An LC Meter BEFORE The Circuit Build - the Jes circuit
http://youtu.be/eNBr8a8i69o

Jes Ascanius’ Version of Nikola Tesla’s Aerial System - Revisited
http://youtu.be/W5V8M_MFlEQ

Earth Battery With Just 2 Grounds - Free Electricity!
http://youtu.be/Avp7bkLRlAA

From last year:
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Radiant Energy Circuits - Tesla 1901 - Patent No. 685958
http://youtu.be/QCa8mpPD680

If you are still here, please post and update. I would love to see someone actually getting the Jes circuit to power something.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 08:33:01 PM »
Late answer, hope you don't mind.


An earth battery is really an other animal, more of a calvano effect, in which the oxidation of a metal is causing the current flow.


In teslas patent you need : a big plate, alu, copper or brass, as far as I have experienced it should be covered, eg. with a transparent laque. Cosmic rays including sunlight photons will penetrate the cover and hit the metal. this will stress the electrons and eventually kick some of the rather unbound ones out trough the cable.


Regarding to tesla, these rays are mostly positive, which is why he didn't need diodes. So this cable is connected to the politive pole of the capacitor, the negative pole is connected to a second plate that is buried underground, so the earth provides the negative party. A third important factor is the altitude of the arial plate. The higher the better (compared to the ground).
Russ/RWG I think made some tests with a quadcopter, or was it lasersaber? And also John Hutchison, using a hemisphere in a tree, running a motor, somewhere on youtube.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2015, 07:30:43 PM »
Jeg
  Who told you that is what the collector plate is made of?

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 01:19:36 AM »
Tesla's Radiant Energy receiver Works, but the problem with it is that it also works to collect RF signals and ground noise caused by switching noise and so forth, If I set one up inside my steel shed I can collect some of the RF radiations that I produce myself (HF resonant transformers), as well as collect ground noise and both of those sources provide much more energy to collect than any positively charged cosmic rays.

In Tesla's time there was not really any electrical noise to collect I imagine and if there was it was definitely nowhere near as much as there is today.

A simple LED load and two small capacitive plates one laying on or just near a concrete slab and one insulated but held up by the hand can utilize the radiations from the HF coil, this tells me that the noise and RF is many magnitudes greater than any positively charged cosmic rays.

And will of cause the capacitor to see AC type signals, which is why in this day and age a rectifier is needed and that would pretty much destroy any chance of collecting the intended feeble "cosmic rays". Mostly what people get in my opinion now from such a setup is rectified ground noise and rectified RF signals.

Possible using a very large plate like house roof size the effect might be seen better than the noise. But I doubt it. It's the way things are now compared to how they were then, that is different.

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2015, 10:35:11 AM »
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The source for Tesla radiant energy collector was Tesla magnifying transmitter and/or external cosmic sources.
He used this as a mean to power his receivers when working with low power signals for radio operation type.
It is clearly seen in his patentes and especially when you read some GB patents where all information was collected together.
Yes, Tesla radiant energy collector can be used to get more power but it's not a magic device - it simply a collector of energy

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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2015, 11:14:18 AM »
Sorry Forest, The Radiant Energy Collector was for collecting cosmic Rays as Tesla put it, he says they were mainly positive in nature and his collector used no rectifier, which reinforced that statement.

Read the Patents why not ? Both of them.

And as I said in this day AC type noise rules the ground and RF signals rule the air.

The amount of electricity that even Tesla collected was only enough to power clocks and so forth anyway.

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 11:36:43 AM »
Sorry Farmhand , but you have read the wrong patents  :P  Give it a try again.


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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2015, 11:22:45 PM »
OK no probs whatever you say genius. The Magnifying Transmitter was invented at a later date though.

He used tubes that produced Roentgen Rays to demonstrate the effect in quick time, and those were powered by a "Tesla Coil" or whatever.

But if one is to get free energy from it then the sun and other Cosmic Rays are the only option. That is because using a Tesla Coil or other generator of rays is not an Efficient option, it is below C.O.P. = 1.0.

Try it and show us your results. With a Magnifying Transmitter I mean.

Truth is that the Magnifying Transmitter was for the transmission of energy via the ground.

But you having the last word won't change that. So please comment further.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2015, 02:00:50 PM »
The only problem with copy paste of Patrick's book is he has rewrote some of the info found in patents and states that he has done so. Leaving the patent number for the reader to go to the USPTO to find the original if they desire.The reasoning being that the language has changed over the course of time and the meaning of some words have changed.
  There is a little game called Down the Lane. If Patrick wishes to express his own opinion he should add it into the info with (....) or in another color so the original information is preserved in event his interpretation is found to be wrong some where down the lane.
  Most people skim over and reread the parts that catch their attention so it's is no surprise that attempts to replicate are lacking in results. Even Tesla held back some secretes of the trade. If you read directions after all ells has failed, your life time will be mostly wasted on repeating the basic development of an idea that was worked out by a person of the highest intellect. Unless you are equal or better there is little chance you can exactly duplicate the process.If you also lack the funding and the assistance of a small lab of employees to give some of the physical tasks to and rely on only yourself then you will take far longer to do the same physical work. Within the details of the patent Tesla does not mention what he treated the plate in the air with to enable it to absorb so many different types of energies nor did he mention if the ground plate was treated. He only mentions the finish being polished which is what people focus on. The term amalgamated means to combine with. Unless you can get past that hurdle you need not construct the rest of the device.
   


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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 01:13:05 AM »
I'd like to ask about the orientation of the insulated metal plate which will collect the positive charges from the atmosphere. In Tesla schematics is at a vertical position but i'd like also to hear your opinion on this, as it will determine the place where i will put them.
Patent drawings are not construction plans so don't count on them for the orientation other than they show the elevated plate perpendicular to the radiant energy. Read the patent very carefully. There's a lot of info there in the text. Note that one of his drawings shows a vacuum tube and he references Roentgen and Lenard tubes. Roentgen is the man who discovered X-rays and a "Roentgen tube" is an X-ray tube. Lenard made some modified Roentgen tubes for his experiments.  Note that Tesla says in the patent that he created a special tube. It was along the same lines as a Lenard tube but I think he used higher voltages. Note that this is not collecting the energy from the cosmic rays but are devices for man made simulation of cosmic rays for experimentation. There is no over unity there.

In terms of Tesla, his radiant energy collector is intercepting charged particles. This is not atmospheric static electricity. The charged particles come from the sun and the cosmos but they are not light as in a photovoltaic collector. In that they come from the cosmos, they come from all directions all the time. A goodly portion of them are captured by the Van Allen radiation belts (which were unknown at the time) but not all, which is a good thing or we wouldn't exist.

The major component that reaches the surface of the earth is what are today called muons which are created when cosmic rays interact with the atmosphere. Interestingly, muons decay into electrons. It's a bit more complicated than that but they do create electrons in their decay.

The charged particles impact the surface and will penetrate a few feet depending on their strength so the ones coming from the opposite side of the earth will be absorbed before they get to you. Other than that, they can come from any direction you can see above the horizon. Obviously, the ones coming in roughly parallel to the ground are going to travel through a lot more atmosphere before they get to you so fewer will reach you. Therefore the orientation should be whatever is the shortest path to you from space. If you are in a valley, the surrounding hills or mountains will absorb them before they get to you. Your plate will be miniscule compared to what is coming in so you will only get a tiny portion of them. Tesla notes that the energy is collected slowly.

Note also that Tesla doesn't say how high the elevation should be, other than the higher the better. That's so they will have traveled through less atmosphere to reach the plate. But it raises an important question. His original patent for transmission through "natural media" is between balloons maintained at 30,000 feet. He originally wanted 15 miles (79,200 feet) but knew that wasn't feasible so reduced it. But it brings up the question, did he also consider those kind of altitudes for the radiant energy collector? He never said as far as I know. That was  feasible back then in principle because there were no airplanes. I say "in principle" because the jet stream and its +250 MPH winds are at about that altitude but it was unknown at the time. He figured out how to do the transmission through the ground so he never attempted it between balloons at altitude. There are, however, entries in his Colorado Springs notes about extracting hydrogen for the balloons from the atmosphere. We know for a fact today that flying at those altitudes increases our radiation exposure and it is one of the things that flight crews have to monitor.

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I found galvanized metal plates 2mX1m, and i intend to paint them with a metal transparent varnish to insulate them. The height difference between ground and plate will be about at 15m.
The patent says the plate should be "highly polished or amalgamated" so I'm afraid your galvanized plates won't work. Amalgamated in those days meant, in metallurgy terms, combined with mercury. They might be but don't be surprised if they don't. I used aluminum.

The "highly polished" part was so that the insulation (think dielectric) would make as good a contact with the metal as possible. The insulation has a couple of functions. It must completely enclose the metal plate to prevent any corners, burrs, or edges from ionizing the air around it. If the metal is exposed to the air and ionizes it, the ionized air is more conductive than normal air and will give lightning an easier conduction path to ground - through your assembly. In effect what you'll have built is a Franklin lightning rod that actually attracts lightning.

Getting back to the dielectric function of the insulation, we don't want the captured charges to neutralize with static charges in the air so the dielectric constant of the insulation used should be as high as possible to separate the charges and it needs very good contact with the metal plate to transfer those charges to the circuit. I used high density polypropylene sheet (not the foam board) and it double my captured voltage over a spray on insulation (Plasti-Dip) I used initially.

Also keep in mind that the charged particles will impact the surface around your ground rods and neutralize charge on the surface of the ground rod if it is not insulated. I pulled my ground rods and used heat shrink tubing on the top 3 feet and got another improvement. I didn't have a way to do this in my test site but the best way to do the ground is to use a polished sheet buried 3 or 4 feet deep with the wire connected there and insulated all the way up to the collecting circuit. Everything above ground should be insulated.
 
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The place where i live is very windy and i have to think very well where to put the collectors. One thought is to handle them as a normal sun charge collector, lying them down on my roof. But, i am not sure about the losses in relation with the orientation (angle)! Has anyone tried it?
I covered the orientation above but would recommend not putting them on your roof. The insulation can be damaged by hail, squirrels, whatever, and if it is you now have a lightning collector attached to your roof. For the same reason you should not use your house wiring ground rod or plumbing pipes for the ground connection. If you do have a problem, you don't want it taking out all of your appliances or zapping you while in the shower.

I had a couple of interesting experiences with this project. One night I was taking readings and a thunderstorm was passing by some miles north of my location. I didn't have any rain where I was. A cloud-to-cloud lightning strike occurred while I was checking out the storm and when I looked at my voltage reading it had jumped to 4 times the reading before the lightning and then slowly subsided back to normal over about 10 to 20 seconds. A little research revealed that lightning does indeed emit X-rays and gamma rays if it is strong enough.

I took readings at various times for about a year. I had started the project in winter, took reading for a few months and for various reasons got side tracked and didn't work with it again until summer. When I got back to it in July I was getting maybe 1/10th of what I was getting before. I went through the circuit and connections several times and couldn't find anything wrong. It finally dawned on me that what had changed was that the sun was directly overhead in July but the location was shaded during the winter. With the sun directly overhead the ground surface was getting charged and neutralizing the charge on the surface of the ground rod. That was when I pulled the ground rods and put the heat shrink tubing on them.

In my readings I included weather data like temperature, humidity, wind speed and direction, % cloud cover, and UV index but never found a correlation between the weather and the readings. I did, however, find an interesting correlation: there is an inverse correlation between the voltage readings and the solar wind density. The higher the solar wind density, the lower the readings and vice versa. We didn't have any big Coronal Mass Ejections while I was working on this. That could have been interesting. My theory is the cosmic rays are being absorbed by the solar wind so higher density solar wind is effectively blocking the charged particles like a cloud passing between the sun and a photovoltaic panel. There were a few outliers in the correlation but more than 90% of the readings that I took that had the solar wind data fit the pattern.
http://spaceweather.com/
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/wsa-enlil-solar-wind-prediction

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